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Re: Shams: Lillard to Milwaukee in three team deal 

Post#321 » by Raps in 4 » Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:39 pm

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Read on Twitter
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Underrated part of this deal. The Bucks will be awful by then. No way Masai could match this.


Yep. Most of the tweets aren't reporting the swaps. That's more than I would have been comfortable with us parting with.
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Re: Shams: Lillard to Milwaukee in three team deal 

Post#322 » by YogurtProducer » Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:39 pm

Brinbe wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Underrated part of this deal. The Bucks will be awful by then. No way Masai could match this.

Yeah the more I look the more it makes sense for POR.

Ayton
2028 swap
2029 first
2030 swap

and then whatever you get for Jrue (say, another future 1st or 2 in 2029/2030) really is going to be a great return. They now have young studs, future picks, and some potential in Grant / Ayton who might be solid trade chips in 2-3 years once the cap rises if those 2 continue to grow.

IDK if an expiring OG really is better than all that.
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Re: Shams: Lillard to Milwaukee in three team deal 

Post#323 » by Tha Cynic » Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:39 pm

Did Cronin get annoyed with both Riley and Masai at the same time? :lol:
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Re: Shams: Lillard to Milwaukee in three team deal 

Post#324 » by C_Money » Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:39 pm

Scase wrote:Thank god. Can we PLEASE start the rebuild now, like damn.


Its not happening, bud.
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Re: Shams: Lillard to Milwaukee in three team deal 

Post#325 » by KL78192020 » Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:39 pm

lol Dame over Jrue, the will score but Jrue was all nba defense. Dame not so much
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Re: Shams: Lillard to Milwaukee in three team deal 

Post#326 » by YogurtProducer » Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:40 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:The best part of all this is we don't have to see the multiple roman numeral version of the "Giannis Trade Request" thread on here.

Yogurt and Nazz will have to deal with watching Barnes play for the Raptors :lol:

I still don't understand why you think I hate Barnes :lol:
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Re: Shams: Lillard to Milwaukee in three team deal 

Post#327 » by bape_lovers » Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:40 pm

fred was a FA, no way portland wanted Fred if he was a pending FA. Dame didnt even ask for trade during the trade deadline either

sidsid wrote:I'm not a big enough person to pass this up:

Grayson Allen and the 2029 1st rounder were in this trade.

You know how we could have clearly beat the Bucks offer?

By trading Fred for that at last year's deadline and put it in the Same deal.

Sliding doors my friends... one of the worst trade deadlines we've ever had keeps on delivering.
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Re: Dame to the Bucks 

Post#328 » by Scase » Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:40 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
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Read on Twitter


No surprise, just like the Celtics the Bucks don't act like school teenagers. How many freaking trade rumours has Masai been involved in since the deadline?

Teams will soon stop answering the phone, why bother. Masai and Bobby just talk and then leak trade rumours (Raptors do leak) and then walk away when it is time to close a deal.

They are the laughing stock of the league and GM's will just stop taking them seriously, again nice work Masai

Lmao I love when people talk about things they have no idea about.

For all we know the Raptors had an offer in a week ago and said that was the final offer and POR went a different route. Or maybe we were a front runner and POR gave dame the choice. Or we never really had any interest at all.

I do know teams aren’t gonna laugh at them for not overpaying :lol:

With the deleted shams tweet, there is a bit more weight to the raps being part of a 4 team. No one will know for sure either way, but the Raptors having the fewest trades done in the last 3 years also lends a little weight to it as well.

All in all, as much as I criticize the FO I can't with confidence say no one wants to deal with them lol.
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Re: Shams: Lillard to Milwaukee in three team deal 

Post#329 » by LoveMyRaps » Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:40 pm

Read on Twitter
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People love to give the FO credit for the Barnes pick, but bare in mind we were slated to draft 8th - we just got insanely lucky with the lottery balls.
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Re: Shams: Lillard to Milwaukee in three team deal 

Post#330 » by ForeverTFC » Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:40 pm

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Philly in the mix for Holiday is a smart move. They actually could also look scary with Holiday returning to where it all started (crazy).

Suddenly flipping Harden to the Clips ain't so bad.


This makes a lot of sense for Philly. Jrue is a stud, even if it's only for 2 years.

Besides, it eats into Philly's cap space next year and they can stay away from Pascal and OG.


Yeah, he'd look great there and fit in like a glove. But I wonder whether the Clippers skip Harden and try to directly go for Jrue.
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Re: Shams: Lillard to Milwaukee in three team deal 

Post#331 » by Tha Cynic » Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:40 pm

Watch Boston or Miami end up with Jrue Holiday now and put the Raptors even further behind lol
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Re: Shams: Lillard to Milwaukee in three team deal 

Post#332 » by YogurtProducer » Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:40 pm

KL78192020 wrote:lol Dame over Jrue, the will score but Jrue was all nba defense. Dame not so much


Lopez / Giannis are more than enough to be a good defense. Bucks have struggled offensively in the half court in the past so this will greatly boost them up. How do you defend a Dame/Giannis pick and roll with 3 shooters around them?
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Re: Shams: Lillard to Milwaukee in three team deal 

Post#333 » by Raps in 4 » Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:41 pm

KL78192020 wrote:lol Dame over Jrue, the will score but Jrue was all nba defense. Dame not so much


Jrue was awful on offence. Dame definitely makes them much better. They'll still have an elite team defence around him.
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Re: Shams: Lillard to Milwaukee in three team deal 

Post#334 » by DG88 » Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:41 pm

HiJiNX wrote:This feels like the end of 300 Days of Summer. We been chasing the girl that don’t want us.

When do we meet our Autumn??

We won't we'll deal with Winters chill at the trade deadline then get burned by Summer when we give up a lotto pick and lose 2 of our FA's for nothing, while staying stuck in the middle.

I know I sound negative but I don't see where this team is going unless this is the plan?
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Re: Shams: Lillard to Milwaukee in three team deal 

Post#335 » by djsunyc » Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:41 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:Watch Boston or Miami end up with Jrue Holiday now and put the Raptors even further behind lol


this post doesn't make sense.
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Re: Shams: Lillard to Milwaukee in three team deal 

Post#336 » by Scase » Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:41 pm

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Scase wrote:Thank god. Can we PLEASE start the rebuild now, like damn.


Its not happening, bud.

Time will tell, but between this, and how they speak about Scottie being the focal point, more signs are pointing to a rebuild than going all in on this core.
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Re: Shams: Lillard to Milwaukee in three team deal 

Post#337 » by nikster » Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:42 pm

KL78192020 wrote:lol Dame over Jrue, the will score but Jrue was all nba defense. Dame not so much

This will be by far the best defense Dame has had around him tho, they should be fine on that end with Middleton/Giannis/Lopez. They could always put another defender in the lineup if it's a concern
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Re: Shams: Lillard to Milwaukee in three team deal 

Post#338 » by KL78192020 » Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:42 pm

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KL78192020 wrote:lol Dame over Jrue, the will score but Jrue was all nba defense. Dame not so much


Lopez / Giannis are more than enough to be a good defense. Bucks have struggled offensively in the half court in the past so this will greatly boost them up. How do you defend a Dame/Giannis pick and roll with 3 shooters around them?


We will see, Raps should try to get Jrue on the cheap. he's solid.
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Re: Shams: Lillard to Milwaukee in three team deal 

Post#339 » by YogurtProducer » Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:42 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:
Read on Twitter
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People love to give the FO credit for the Barnes pick, but bare in mind we were slated to draft 8th - we just got insanely lucky with the lottery balls.

That tweet is so knowingly misleading :lol:

And the "we were slated to draft 8th" - wasn't possibly getting lucky the exact argument used to throw in the towel this past season?
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Re: Shams: Lillard to Milwaukee in three team deal 

Post#340 » by Scase » Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:42 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:
Read on Twitter
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People love to give the FO credit for the Barnes pick, but bare in mind we were slated to draft 8th - we just got insanely lucky with the lottery balls.

The same people who deride tanking because "There's no guarantee of where you will pick".
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