The Official NY Jets Thread.

[thebuzzardman]

Remi - how can you even care about the Jets? The season was/is completely over the moment Rodgers went down.

The only thing left is draft position.

[EnigmatiC]

Remi - how can you even care about the Jets? The season was/is completely over the moment Rodgers went down.

The only thing left is draft position.

This draft will be selecting whoever can help 40 year old bad Achilles Aaron Rodgers the most.

[Knicksfan1992]

I'm not impressed with holding that Pats team under 20, they may have the worst skills position players in the league. How do you think our defense would hold up to Buffalo right now after they had a few games to shake out the rust? I don't think it would hold up very well.

We have a defensive coordinator masquerading as a head coach that is a FACT. The team (especially the defense) always look like they are not ready to play. This goes back to last year when we couldn't win a game the last month or so despite having a decent shot at making the playoffs, with so much on the line how does your team routinely come out flat?. This defense still can't get off the field on 3rd down, especially 3rd and long for crying out loud. I'm not even going to mention the fact we can't take the ball away (lets be real the turnovers against Buffalo was a statistical anomaly). These are hallmarks of Robert Saleh's defense. He is STILL being stunningly stubborn with Zach Wilson although I have to wonder how much the GM and ownership are in his ear about that. Speaking of GM, at what point does Douglas face the music? He had 1 GREAT draft, what else has he done? He struck out on Zach, he struck out on the coach, he struck out on a few drafts, and he struck out with Rodgers. He's been here what? 4 years now? Our offensive line is STILL a mess!! I don't get the love and leeway this guy gets.

Ok rant over...for now

The Pats aren't a good offense, but they've faced elite defenses and put up nominally better numbers than they did against our guys. I think that holds some weight...or at least, it shouldn't count against them. The Bills offense, they came out the gate with 31 last season and it just seems like the Jets have found a good formula against them going back to last season.

Agreed that Saleh looks more and more like a DC who's in over his head. Preparation does seem awful, we lose the "scripted" portion of match-ups on a weekly basis. The third-down conversion rate is mid as hell, but I think we make up for it by not giving up many big plays (ironic a week after the one TD surrendered was off a big play, I know). Lack of forced TO's is concerning, but I'm gonna give them a couple more weeks before I panic.

Douglas is an interesting case. I think he's gotten leeway with the O-Line because of injuries (Becton and AVT in particular). But the band-aids that he's come up with have routinely flopped and his developmental guys have all looked like bench depth at best. I liked his work this past draft, but it's impossible to defend a draft where none of the players is even suiting up (except Joe Tippman who got on due to injuries). With Douglas, I think he got a lot of love and leeway because of how great last year's draft class performed. This season will be the one where fans start to turn on him if the draft picks don't start showing value soon.

I think flubbing the backup QB situation would be the nail in the coffin moreso than the O-line IMO. Zach has had time to throw the ball both against the Bills and the Pats. He got bailed out in one and completely dropped the ball in the other. We should realistically be 0-3. He's statistically been one of the worst QBs in a clean pocket this year. Not saying the o-line is great, but I actually don't think it would make too much of a difference if they were tbh. Zach, currently, just can't cut it as a thrower at this level. Spending the money they could have spent on a Bridgewater, Mike White, Mayfield, etc. on Dalvin and Hardman is way more egregious in hindsight than having a less than stellar O-Line IMO. That is a failure on the part of Douglas for not only failing to recognizing and address a potential weakness on this team, but also spending on things we did not exactly need. Then when faced with that reality, he waited an extra 2 weeks to bring Siemian in which likely cost us a game against the Pats and now the Chiefs assuming we don't win.

We'd likely be 2-1, with a competent backup, and have a good chance at being .500 going into the bye after the Eagles game. Now we'd be lucky to have 2 wins going into the bye and even if we could trade for a Cousins or Stafford at that point, then it might just be more prudent to tank anyway.

To me, these kind of crisis situations tell me more about a GM and organizational culture moreso than well laid out plans working out correctly. So far this regime has failed miserably to react in an appropriate manner to adversity or even give a shred of hope that things may in fact get better.

[j4remi]

Dallas scored 38 points, right? That's not good defense.

30 points, and something like 12 came off turnovers.

[EnigmatiC]

I'm not impressed with holding that Pats team under 20, they may have the worst skills position players in the league. How do you think our defense would hold up to Buffalo right now after they had a few games to shake out the rust? I don't think it would hold up very well.

We have a defensive coordinator masquerading as a head coach that is a FACT. The team (especially the defense) always look like they are not ready to play. This goes back to last year when we couldn't win a game the last month or so despite having a decent shot at making the playoffs, with so much on the line how does your team routinely come out flat?. This defense still can't get off the field on 3rd down, especially 3rd and long for crying out loud. I'm not even going to mention the fact we can't take the ball away (lets be real the turnovers against Buffalo was a statistical anomaly). These are hallmarks of Robert Saleh's defense. He is STILL being stunningly stubborn with Zach Wilson although I have to wonder how much the GM and ownership are in his ear about that. Speaking of GM, at what point does Douglas face the music? He had 1 GREAT draft, what else has he done? He struck out on Zach, he struck out on the coach, he struck out on a few drafts, and he struck out with Rodgers. He's been here what? 4 years now? Our offensive line is STILL a mess!! I don't get the love and leeway this guy gets.

Ok rant over...for now

The Pats aren't a good offense, but they've faced elite defenses and put up nominally better numbers than they did against our guys. I think that holds some weight...or at least, it shouldn't count against them. The Bills offense, they came out the gate with 31 last season and it just seems like the Jets have found a good formula against them going back to last season.

Agreed that Saleh looks more and more like a DC who's in over his head. Preparation does seem awful, we lose the "scripted" portion of match-ups on a weekly basis. The third-down conversion rate is mid as hell, but I think we make up for it by not giving up many big plays (ironic a week after the one TD surrendered was off a big play, I know). Lack of forced TO's is concerning, but I'm gonna give them a couple more weeks before I panic.

Douglas is an interesting case. I think he's gotten leeway with the O-Line because of injuries (Becton and AVT in particular). But the band-aids that he's come up with have routinely flopped and his developmental guys have all looked like bench depth at best. I liked his work this past draft, but it's impossible to defend a draft where none of the players is even suiting up (except Joe Tippman who got on due to injuries). With Douglas, I think he got a lot of love and leeway because of how great last year's draft class performed. This season will be the one where fans start to turn on him if the draft picks don't start showing value soon.

I think flubbing the backup QB situation would be the nail in the coffin moreso than the O-line IMO. Zach has had time to throw the ball both against the Bills and the Pats. He got bailed out in one and completely dropped the ball in the other. We should realistically be 0-3. He's statistically been one of the worst QBs in a clean pocket this year. Not saying the o-line is great, but I actually don't think it would make too much of a difference if they were tbh. Zach, currently, just can't cut it as a thrower at this level. Spending the money they could have spent on a Bridgewater, Mike White, Mayfield, etc. on Dalvin and Hardman is way more egregious in hindsight than having a less than stellar O-Line IMO. That is a failure on the part of Douglas for not only failing to recognizing and address a potential weakness on this team, but also spending on things we did not exactly need. Then when faced with that reality, he waited an extra 2 weeks to bring Siemian in which likely cost us a game against the Pats and now the Chiefs assuming we don't win.

We'd likely be 2-1, with a competent backup, and have a good chance at being .500 going into the bye after the Eagles game. Now we'd be lucky to have 2 wins going into the bye and even if we could trade for a Cousins or Stafford at that point, then it might just be more prudent to tank anyway.

To me, these kind of crisis situations tell me more about a GM and organizational culture moreso than well laid out plans working out correctly. So far this regime has failed miserably to react in an appropriate manner to adversity or even give a shred of hope that things may in fact get better.

Douglas bet the house on Rodgers and lost big time. They couldn't even entertain the possibility a 40 year old QB could get hurt at some point during the season? Especially when he's playing behind your patchwork offensive line?

We need to tank and hopefully draft another QB.

[j4remi]

I think flubbing the backup QB situation would be the nail in the coffin moreso than the O-line IMO. Zach has had time to throw the ball both against the Bills and the Pats. He got bailed out in one and completely dropped the ball in the other. We should realistically be 0-3. He's statistically been one of the worst QBs in a clean pocket this year. Not saying the o-line is great, but I actually don't think it would make too much of a difference if they were tbh. Zach, currently, just can't cut it as a thrower at this level. Spending the money they could have spent on a Bridgewater, Mike White, Mayfield, etc. on Dalvin and Hardman is way more egregious in hindsight than having a less than stellar O-Line IMO. That is a failure on the part of Douglas for not only failing to recognizing and address a potential weakness on this team, but also spending on things we did not exactly need. Then when faced with that reality, he waited an extra 2 weeks to bring Siemian in which likely cost us a game against the Pats and now the Chiefs assuming we don't win.

We'd likely be 2-1, with a competent backup, and have a good chance at being .500 going into the bye after the Eagles game. Now we'd be lucky to have 2 wins going into the bye and even if we could trade for a Cousins or Stafford at that point, then it might just be more prudent to tank anyway.

To me, these kind of crisis situations tell me more about a GM and organizational culture moreso than well laid out plans working out correctly. So far this regime has failed miserably to react in an appropriate manner to adversity or even give a shred of hope that things may in fact get better.

They definitely dropped the ball with the backup QB situation. I'm also worried that no backup QB will cut it because our OC might be an equally major problem. He's only looked good when Aaron Rodgers was reading the field and making playcalls at the line. None of that is to alleviate Zach, who sucks. But the offensive gameplanning has been awful too (we want to run but Ruckert isn't playing, need quick passes but Hardman isn't used, etc.).

The team put all its eggs in the Rodgers basket and the backfire feels unavoidable. But you're right, any QB that can get this team 20 ppg should be able to keep a winning record within sight. Because our defense is legit, and if they ever get the benefit of field position, they're going to be tough to crack.

Now they've gotta really hone in on beating Denver. Then that bye-week trade for a QB becomes a real possibility.

[j4remi]

Remi - how can you even care about the Jets? The season was/is completely over the moment Rodgers went down.

The only thing left is draft position.

The same way people still cared about the Knicks before this recent decent run of success

I can acknowledge that the situation is ass. But I'm not gonna pretend the defense is pedestrian just because of one bad week in the past 20 or so weeks of games. Zach Wilson sucks, the coaching is shoddy, and the GM needs to be put on the chopping block if this offense goes a second straight season without being able to average 20 points or more. That's all real. Trashing the defense is a reach and a half.

[EnigmatiC]

I think flubbing the backup QB situation would be the nail in the coffin moreso than the O-line IMO. Zach has had time to throw the ball both against the Bills and the Pats. He got bailed out in one and completely dropped the ball in the other. We should realistically be 0-3. He's statistically been one of the worst QBs in a clean pocket this year. Not saying the o-line is great, but I actually don't think it would make too much of a difference if they were tbh. Zach, currently, just can't cut it as a thrower at this level. Spending the money they could have spent on a Bridgewater, Mike White, Mayfield, etc. on Dalvin and Hardman is way more egregious in hindsight than having a less than stellar O-Line IMO. That is a failure on the part of Douglas for not only failing to recognizing and address a potential weakness on this team, but also spending on things we did not exactly need. Then when faced with that reality, he waited an extra 2 weeks to bring Siemian in which likely cost us a game against the Pats and now the Chiefs assuming we don't win.

We'd likely be 2-1, with a competent backup, and have a good chance at being .500 going into the bye after the Eagles game. Now we'd be lucky to have 2 wins going into the bye and even if we could trade for a Cousins or Stafford at that point, then it might just be more prudent to tank anyway.

To me, these kind of crisis situations tell me more about a GM and organizational culture moreso than well laid out plans working out correctly. So far this regime has failed miserably to react in an appropriate manner to adversity or even give a shred of hope that things may in fact get better.

They definitely dropped the ball with the backup QB situation. I'm also worried that no backup QB will cut it because our OC might be an equally major problem. He's only looked good when Aaron Rodgers was reading the field and making playcalls at the line. None of that is to alleviate Zach, who sucks. But the offensive gameplanning has been awful too (we want to run but Ruckert isn't playing, need quick passes but Hardman isn't used, etc.).

The team put all its eggs in the Rodgers basket and the backfire feels unavoidable. But you're right, any QB that can get this team 20 ppg should be able to keep a winning record within sight. Because our defense is legit, and if they ever get the benefit of field position, they're going to be tough to crack.

Now they've gotta really hone in on beating Denver. Then that bye-week trade for a QB becomes a real possibility.

This!! One of the first things I said to a close friend of mine after Rodgers went down "oh boy now Hackett is going to have to actually coach."

[Knicksfan1992]

Douglas bet the house on Rodgers and lost big time. They couldn't even entertain the possibility a 40 year old QB could get hurt at some point during the season? Especially when he's playing behind your patchwork offensive line?

We need to tank and hopefully draft another QB.

It's not even really a bet on Rodgers. It was more of a bet of if this fails, then we feel safe with Zach as a contingency long term. Barring injury, Rodgers was a sure thing to be good enough to win games IMO. They were right to bet the house on him. It's just the 99th percentile unlucky outcome happened and their contingency plan sucked.

That's why I'm reluctant to blame Saleh and Hackett.

They were so quick to get rid of Darnold when the time came but, as soon as nut crunching time came for ZW they doubled down. That's either a Douglas or a mandate to Douglas from Woody decision. Either way Joe D takes the fall IMO if this continues to go sideways.

[thebuzzardman]

Remi - how can you even care about the Jets? The season was/is completely over the moment Rodgers went down.

The only thing left is draft position.

The same way people still cared about the Knicks before this recent decent run of success

I can acknowledge that the situation is ass. But I'm not gonna pretend the defense is pedestrian just because of one bad week in the past 20 or so weeks of games. Zach Wilson sucks, the coaching is shoddy, and the GM needs to be put on the chopping block if this offense goes a second straight season without being able to average 20 points or more. That's all real. Trashing the defense is a reach and a half.

If the GM sucks, the coach sucks and the QB situation sucks, along with the OC not being all that special, I'm not going to care that much about the defense.

It's a 3 win team.

[thebuzzardman]

Douglas bet the house on Rodgers and lost big time. They couldn't even entertain the possibility a 40 year old QB could get hurt at some point during the season? Especially when he's playing behind your patchwork offensive line?

We need to tank and hopefully draft another QB.

It's not even really a bet on Rodgers. It was more of a bet of if this fails, then we feel safe with Zach as a contingency long term. Barring injury, Rodgers was a sure thing to be good enough to win games IMO. They were right to bet the house on him. It's just the 99th percentile unlucky outcome happened and their contingency plan sucked.

That's why I'm reluctant to blame Saleh and Hackett.

They were so quick to get rid of Darnold when the time came but, as soon as nut crunching time came for ZW they doubled down. That's either a Douglas or a mandate to Douglas from Woody decision. Either way Joe D takes the fall IMO if this continues to go sideways.

Then Douglas didn't plan for the worst case scenario, another sign that he's not really any good. Well, that and it's taken him 5 years to assemble a sh*t offensive line.

And Saleh doesn't seem to bring anything special as a coach, so there's another whiff.

They both need to go.

[j4remi]

Remi - how can you even care about the Jets? The season was/is completely over the moment Rodgers went down.

The only thing left is draft position.

The same way people still cared about the Knicks before this recent decent run of success

I can acknowledge that the situation is ass. But I'm not gonna pretend the defense is pedestrian just because of one bad week in the past 20 or so weeks of games. Zach Wilson sucks, the coaching is shoddy, and the GM needs to be put on the chopping block if this offense goes a second straight season without being able to average 20 points or more. That's all real. Trashing the defense is a reach and a half.

If the GM sucks, the coach sucks and the QB situation sucks, along with the OC not being all that special, I'm not going to care that much about the defense.

It's a 3 win team.

Three weeks into the season with one of the toughest SOS in the league for their first 6 weeks; I'll wait to see how everyone handles their back being against the walls.

The HC is mid, but not a complete lost cause (Saleh reminds me of Todd Bowles), the OC does kinda suck. The GM is still 50/50. He's got a bunch of cap space to try and address the QB situation when teams realize they're not going anywhere (that's why Stafford and Cousins' names keep coming up).

The reason the defense matters is that this team doesn't need that much offense to win games. Beat Denver, and a trade for Cousins or Stafford could turn the ship around in a hurry (especially because the skill positions are still strong).

[thebuzzardman]

The same way people still cared about the Knicks before this recent decent run of success

I can acknowledge that the situation is ass. But I'm not gonna pretend the defense is pedestrian just because of one bad week in the past 20 or so weeks of games. Zach Wilson sucks, the coaching is shoddy, and the GM needs to be put on the chopping block if this offense goes a second straight season without being able to average 20 points or more. That's all real. Trashing the defense is a reach and a half.

If the GM sucks, the coach sucks and the QB situation sucks, along with the OC not being all that special, I'm not going to care that much about the defense.

It's a 3 win team.

Three weeks into the season with one of the toughest SOS in the league for their first 6 weeks; I'll wait to see how everyone handles their back being against the walls.

The HC is mid, but not a complete lost cause (Saleh reminds me of Todd Bowles), the OC does kinda suck. The GM is still 50/50. He's got a bunch of cap space to try and address the QB situation when teams realize they're not going anywhere (that's why Stafford and Cousins' names keep coming up).

The reason the defense matters is that this team doesn't need that much offense to win games. Beat Denver, and a trade for Cousins or Stafford could turn the ship around in a hurry (especially because the skill positions are still strong).

3 wins. Maybe 4. If it screws up draft position they definitely get the 4th win.

[Jalen Bluntson]

The same way people still cared about the Knicks before this recent decent run of success

I can acknowledge that the situation is ass. But I'm not gonna pretend the defense is pedestrian just because of one bad week in the past 20 or so weeks of games. Zach Wilson sucks, the coaching is shoddy, and the GM needs to be put on the chopping block if this offense goes a second straight season without being able to average 20 points or more. That's all real. Trashing the defense is a reach and a half.

If the GM sucks, the coach sucks and the QB situation sucks, along with the OC not being all that special, I'm not going to care that much about the defense.

It's a 3 win team.

Three weeks into the season with one of the toughest SOS in the league for their first 6 weeks; I'll wait to see how everyone handles their back being against the walls.

The HC is mid, but not a complete lost cause (Saleh reminds me of Todd Bowles), the OC does kinda suck. The GM is still 50/50. He's got a bunch of cap space to try and address the QB situation when teams realize they're not going anywhere (that's why Stafford and Cousins' names keep coming up).

The reason the defense matters is that this team doesn't need that much offense to win games. Beat Denver, and a trade for Cousins or Stafford could turn the ship around in a hurry (especially because the skill positions are still strong).

This team will be 1-5 going into the bye week. No QB change is gonna matter at all by then. The only thing it will do is kill draft position.

The season was over after 4 snaps! Rodgers attempt at a comeback will fail as well. This roster will be wasted and players will leave first chance they get. GM/HC will be replaced by ANOTHER inexperienced group of hacks like they have been the last two decades!

It's over. There is no QB coming in FA/trade that will matter. Rodgers is spent. We never even try to draft a QB historically. The last 14 years is the most we have tried and they were ALL busts!

It's been 58 years since this team drafted Namath. 55 years since he took us to and won our ONLY SB ever! They have drafted a total of 6 QBs in the 1st rd of the draft in all of that Time!

1976-Todd (6)
1983-O'Brien (24th)
2000-Pennington (18)
2009-Sanchez (5)
2018-Darnold (3)
2021-Zach (2)

IT'S BEEN THE WORST RUN TEAM IN THE NFL FOREVER! There is never any reason for hope or positive vibes towards this team. I am officially done with that BS. Suggest you all learn a valuable lesson and do the same. SOJ is real. It will never change. The next time I even attempt to watch this fuqhole franchise will be when/IF they ever make the playoffs again. No more off season hope. No more drafts. No more preseason games. No more regular season games. Playoffs or nothing. Even then, I'm pretty sure it will end in spectacular disappointing fashion!!

Fuq this team! Nothing but losing for 5+ decades!

[thebuzzardman]

If the GM sucks, the coach sucks and the QB situation sucks, along with the OC not being all that special, I'm not going to care that much about the defense.

It's a 3 win team.

Three weeks into the season with one of the toughest SOS in the league for their first 6 weeks; I'll wait to see how everyone handles their back being against the walls.

The HC is mid, but not a complete lost cause (Saleh reminds me of Todd Bowles), the OC does kinda suck. The GM is still 50/50. He's got a bunch of cap space to try and address the QB situation when teams realize they're not going anywhere (that's why Stafford and Cousins' names keep coming up).

The reason the defense matters is that this team doesn't need that much offense to win games. Beat Denver, and a trade for Cousins or Stafford could turn the ship around in a hurry (especially because the skill positions are still strong).

This team will be 1-5 going into the bye week. No QB change is gonna matter at all by then. The only thing it will do is kill draft position.

The season was over after 4 snaps! Rodgers attempt at a comeback will fail as well. This roster will be wasted and players will leave first chance they get. GM/HC will be replaced by ANOTHER inexperienced group of hacks like they have been the last two decades!

It's over. There is no QB coming in FA/trade that will matter. Rodgers is spent. We never even try to draft a QB historically. The last 14 years is the most we have tried and they were ALL busts!

It's been 58 years since this team drafted Namath. 55 years since he took us to and won our ONLY SB ever! They have drafted a total of 6 QBs in the 1st rd of the draft in all of that Time!

1976-Todd (6)
1983-O'Brien (24th)
2000-Pennington (18)
2009-Sanchez (5)
2018-Darnold (3)
2021-Zach (2)

IT'S BEEN THE WORST RUN TEAM IN THE NFL FOREVER! There is never any reason for hope or positive vibes towards this team. I am officially done with that BS. Suggest you all learn a valuable lesson and do the same. SOJ is real. It will never change. The next time I even attempt to watch this fuqhole franchise will be when/IF they ever make the playoffs again. No more off season hope. No more drafts. No more preseason games. No more regular season games. Playoffs or nothing. Even then, I'm pretty sure it will end in spectacular disappointing fashion!!

Fuq this team! Nothing but losing for 5+ decades!

Very negative.

With the miracle of modern medicine, Rodgers will come back midseason and Jets will win 7 games.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Three weeks into the season with one of the toughest SOS in the league for their first 6 weeks; I'll wait to see how everyone handles their back being against the walls.

The HC is mid, but not a complete lost cause (Saleh reminds me of Todd Bowles), the OC does kinda suck. The GM is still 50/50. He's got a bunch of cap space to try and address the QB situation when teams realize they're not going anywhere (that's why Stafford and Cousins' names keep coming up).

The reason the defense matters is that this team doesn't need that much offense to win games. Beat Denver, and a trade for Cousins or Stafford could turn the ship around in a hurry (especially because the skill positions are still strong).

This team will be 1-5 going into the bye week. No QB change is gonna matter at all by then. The only thing it will do is kill draft position.

The season was over after 4 snaps! Rodgers attempt at a comeback will fail as well. This roster will be wasted and players will leave first chance they get. GM/HC will be replaced by ANOTHER inexperienced group of hacks like they have been the last two decades!

It's over. There is no QB coming in FA/trade that will matter. Rodgers is spent. We never even try to draft a QB historically. The last 14 years is the most we have tried and they were ALL busts!

It's been 58 years since this team drafted Namath. 55 years since he took us to and won our ONLY SB ever! They have drafted a total of 6 QBs in the 1st rd of the draft in all of that Time!

1976-Todd (6)
1983-O'Brien (24th)
2000-Pennington (18)
2009-Sanchez (5)
2018-Darnold (3)
2021-Zach (2)

IT'S BEEN THE WORST RUN TEAM IN THE NFL FOREVER! There is never any reason for hope or positive vibes towards this team. I am officially done with that BS. Suggest you all learn a valuable lesson and do the same. SOJ is real. It will never change. The next time I even attempt to watch this fuqhole franchise will be when/IF they ever make the playoffs again. No more off season hope. No more drafts. No more preseason games. No more regular season games. Playoffs or nothing. Even then, I'm pretty sure it will end in spectacular disappointing fashion!!

Fuq this team! Nothing but losing for 5+ decades!

Very negative.

With the miracle of modern medicine, Rodgers will come back midseason and Jets will win 7 games.

Any other team, I would believe Rodgers would come back and be successful. Let's be real though, this is SOJ. So he will come back and win the ONE game that costs us the best QB in the draft. Then he will fall apart.

[j4remi]

This team will be 1-5 going into the bye week. No QB change is gonna matter at all by then. The only thing it will do is kill draft position.

The season was over after 4 snaps! Rodgers attempt at a comeback will fail as well. This roster will be wasted and players will leave first chance they get. GM/HC will be replaced by ANOTHER inexperienced group of hacks like they have been the last two decades!

It's over. There is no QB coming in FA/trade that will matter. Rodgers is spent. We never even try to draft a QB historically. The last 14 years is the most we have tried and they were ALL busts!

It's been 58 years since this team drafted Namath. 55 years since he took us to and won our ONLY SB ever! They have drafted a total of 6 QBs in the 1st rd of the draft in all of that Time!

1976-Todd (6)
1983-O'Brien (24th)
2000-Pennington (18)
2009-Sanchez (5)
2018-Darnold (3)
2021-Zach (2)

IT'S BEEN THE WORST RUN TEAM IN THE NFL FOREVER! There is never any reason for hope or positive vibes towards this team. I am officially done with that BS. Suggest you all learn a valuable lesson and do the same. SOJ is real. It will never change. The next time I even attempt to watch this fuqhole franchise will be when/IF they ever make the playoffs again. No more off season hope. No more drafts. No more preseason games. No more regular season games. Playoffs or nothing. Even then, I'm pretty sure it will end in spectacular disappointing fashion!!

Fuq this team! Nothing but losing for 5+ decades!

Agreed that the franchise is run like ass. But then, I'd argue they actually do TRY to draft QB's, but suck at developing them. Since 2000 they've drafted 7 QBs in the first 2 rounds. That's damn near a QB every 3 years...you're not SUPPOSED to need new QB's every 3 years. But they drafted busts or couldn't develop them. I mean, Geno Smith is a valid starting QB, mid but valid. They just flopped on giving him the help on the field or development off. So another franchise got him cheap and then his development began.

As of 1-5 and "it's over." Lucky for you there's a NBA preseason starting soon

All I said is that the defense has actually been pretty good and I'm waiting for the bye week to toss this season in the dumpster. I was ready to have a 2-4 team WITH Aaron Rodgers, and I still think Denver is winnable. So I can chill for a couple more weeks. But at the stage of "this franchise will suck FOREVER"


I'd probably switch to a new team or pick up College football

[Mecca]

This team will be 1-5 going into the bye week. No QB change is gonna matter at all by then. The only thing it will do is kill draft position.

The season was over after 4 snaps! Rodgers attempt at a comeback will fail as well. This roster will be wasted and players will leave first chance they get. GM/HC will be replaced by ANOTHER inexperienced group of hacks like they have been the last two decades!

It's over. There is no QB coming in FA/trade that will matter. Rodgers is spent. We never even try to draft a QB historically. The last 14 years is the most we have tried and they were ALL busts!

It's been 58 years since this team drafted Namath. 55 years since he took us to and won our ONLY SB ever! They have drafted a total of 6 QBs in the 1st rd of the draft in all of that Time!

1976-Todd (6)
1983-O'Brien (24th)
2000-Pennington (18)
2009-Sanchez (5)
2018-Darnold (3)
2021-Zach (2)

IT'S BEEN THE WORST RUN TEAM IN THE NFL FOREVER! There is never any reason for hope or positive vibes towards this team. I am officially done with that BS. Suggest you all learn a valuable lesson and do the same. SOJ is real. It will never change. The next time I even attempt to watch this fuqhole franchise will be when/IF they ever make the playoffs again. No more off season hope. No more drafts. No more preseason games. No more regular season games. Playoffs or nothing. Even then, I'm pretty sure it will end in spectacular disappointing fashion!!

Fuq this team! Nothing but losing for 5+ decades!

Geno one of the best 10 QB's in the sport. Their issue is that they pick the wrong ones. Lamar was sitting there for them way back.

Agreed that the franchise is run like ass. But then, I'd argue they actually do TRY to draft QB's, but suck at developing them. Since 2000 they've drafted 7 QBs in the first 2 rounds. That's damn near a QB every 3 years...you're not SUPPOSED to need new QB's every 3 years. But they drafted busts or couldn't develop them. I mean, Geno Smith is a valid starting QB, mid but valid. They just flopped on giving him the help on the field or development off. So another franchise got him cheap and then his development began.

As of 1-5 and "it's over." Lucky for you there's a NBA preseason starting soon

All I said is that the defense has actually been pretty good and I'm waiting for the bye week to toss this season in the dumpster. I was ready to have a 2-4 team WITH Aaron Rodgers, and I still think Denver is winnable. So I can chill for a couple more weeks. But at the stage of "this franchise will suck FOREVER"


I'd probably switch to a new team or pick up College football

[j4remi]

Geno one of the best 10 QB's in the sport. Their issue is that they pick the wrong ones. Lamar was sitting there for them way back.

I remember when you and I were the only people saying that the Jets should trade back and take Lamar. Then they traded up and we had to switch gears. If I'm not mistaken, I wanted Darnold and you wanted Mayfield...both look like duds to me now, but Mayfield's still got a shot.

[Jalen Bluntson]

This team will be 1-5 going into the bye week. No QB change is gonna matter at all by then. The only thing it will do is kill draft position.

The season was over after 4 snaps! Rodgers attempt at a comeback will fail as well. This roster will be wasted and players will leave first chance they get. GM/HC will be replaced by ANOTHER inexperienced group of hacks like they have been the last two decades!

It's over. There is no QB coming in FA/trade that will matter. Rodgers is spent. We never even try to draft a QB historically. The last 14 years is the most we have tried and they were ALL busts!

It's been 58 years since this team drafted Namath. 55 years since he took us to and won our ONLY SB ever! They have drafted a total of 6 QBs in the 1st rd of the draft in all of that Time!

1976-Todd (6)
1983-O'Brien (24th)
2000-Pennington (18)
2009-Sanchez (5)
2018-Darnold (3)
2021-Zach (2)

IT'S BEEN THE WORST RUN TEAM IN THE NFL FOREVER! There is never any reason for hope or positive vibes towards this team. I am officially done with that BS. Suggest you all learn a valuable lesson and do the same. SOJ is real. It will never change. The next time I even attempt to watch this fuqhole franchise will be when/IF they ever make the playoffs again. No more off season hope. No more drafts. No more preseason games. No more regular season games. Playoffs or nothing. Even then, I'm pretty sure it will end in spectacular disappointing fashion!!

Fuq this team! Nothing but losing for 5+ decades!

Agreed that the franchise is run like ass. But then, I'd argue they actually do TRY to draft QB's, but suck at developing them. Since 2000 they've drafted 7 QBs in the first 2 rounds. That's damn near a QB every 3 years...you're not SUPPOSED to need new QB's every 3 years. But they drafted busts or couldn't develop them. I mean, Geno Smith is a valid starting QB, mid but valid. They just flopped on giving him the help on the field or development off. So another franchise got him cheap and then his development began.

As of 1-5 and "it's over." Lucky for you there's a NBA preseason starting soon

All I said is that the defense has actually been pretty good and I'm waiting for the bye week to toss this season in the dumpster. I was ready to have a 2-4 team WITH Aaron Rodgers, and I still think Denver is winnable. So I can chill for a couple more weeks. But at the stage of "this franchise will suck FOREVER"


I'd probably switch to a new team or pick up College football

I'll never switch teams and I find college football extremely boring! I'll just wait until they make the playoffs before I watch any more football.

I'm just done. I am usually fairly upbeat and I try to be positive about my teams. This team has taken it out of my soul! As bad as the Knicks have been, I have had a decade+ of playoffs and a couple of finals runs in there before they became this mess. The Jets have been terrible for most of the last 40+ years.

As for the QBs. Waiting until the second round to draft a QB is not trying to get a QB. Geno? Not even worth mentioning. Using top picks on WRs/TEs/KICKERS? BROWNING FUQQING NAGLE?? WHAT?

I am just done. There's nothing positive to say about this team in the last 55 years. 4 AFCCG losses. That's it. Nothing else worth talking about. The worst owners in he NFL every time they get a new one!