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Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#741 » by DayofMourning » Wed Oct 11, 2023 2:22 am

marson wrote:Beas putting the hammer on Spo :lol:



Sad really. I was sooo in love with the Beasley pick. Knew we made the right choice. The mindsets of both parties werent a good match at all.
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Post#742 » by Dc__20 » Wed Oct 11, 2023 2:30 am

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marson wrote:Beas putting the hammer on Spo :lol:



Sad really. I was sooo in love with the Beasley pick. Knew we made the right choice. The mindsets of both parties werent a good match at all.


There’s been a lot of nba players with all the talent in the world but low IQ… most follow the path of Bradley’s career
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Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#743 » by dshearn » Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:14 am

DayofMourning wrote:
marson wrote:Beas putting the hammer on Spo :lol:



Sad really. I was sooo in love with the Beasley pick. Knew we made the right choice. The mindsets of both parties werent a good match at all.



Yeah...sad....

At least Miami tried a few times to mend the relationship. Clearly they saw something there...


It seems even now, with multiple stops in the NBA he can't quite wrap his head around how his career went down. They say life comes at you fast, and that is true..... it is worth mentioning that Beas peaked higher then 99% of us. Yeah he did not live up to expectations....but they dude had an opportunity to shine and to a degree he did.

I think this forum will always have some love for Beas

This stuff happens in every sport, some random dudes decided that this player has to do THIS to be successful, but other dudes only have to do that... Expectations are all over the place. Players can only come in and play their best...people's expectations are out of their control.
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Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#744 » by MorbidHEAT » Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:39 am

DayofMourning wrote:
marson wrote:Beas putting the hammer on Spo :lol:



Sad really. I was sooo in love with the Beasley pick. Knew we made the right choice. The mindsets of both parties werent a good match at all.


My boy B-Easy is looking rough. I saw a podcast he did about a year ago (I think) which is a pretty popular podcast (3 or 4 football players run it, I can't remember the name of it to save my life. Anyways, he did not sound good. He may be right about how it went with the Heat and Spo, but dude noticeably has problems. Hopefully he gets and/or continues to get help.
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Post#745 » by Wiltside » Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:53 am

Damn, that's rough to watch.

I loved Beas. I was so high on him coming out of the draft, I thought we had drafted the absolute perfect 4 man for us.

I do hear a little of what he's saying. We certainly never gave him the free reign to work his offensive gifts. We also were doing our best to keep Wade and appease him, and the NBA was a different league back in 2007-2008. Back then, Beas was a tweener who couldn't hang on the perimeter with 3's or defend the post solid enough for 4's. In today's NBA, defence is less of a concern and he'd have as many opportunities as he'd like offensively. He just came into the league at the wrong time.

Beas was also an immature kid who wasn't ready for the discipline and structure that the Heat represent. Super talented guy and I loved watching him play ball, but it sucks to see him bitter about how his career went down after quite a few stints with Spo and the Heat. Many of the issues were self inflicted too, and it's not a coincidence that he flamed out at many of the spots he went to along the way.

As Spo says though, "We're not for everybody". I hope Beas can be at peace with how this career went - he made millions of dollars and carved a decade plus career in the NBA. He has an opportunity to provide generational wealth to his kids and grandkids. He may not have hit the highs that his talent suggested he could, but he still made something of himself - he should be proud about that.
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Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#746 » by Heat3 » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:35 am

2023 Spo would develop and get more out of Beasley than 2008 Spo. Too tight a leash on Beas. He needed the Herro rookie treatment. Not the Bam slow development program.

But with Spo trying to prove himself and Wade wanting to win Beas came into a bad situation. This is not the first time Riley saw more in a player than Spo.

Funny him saying he’s a genius though lol
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Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#747 » by dubasilva » Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:39 am

DayofMourning wrote:
marson wrote:Beas putting the hammer on Spo :lol:



Sad really. I was sooo in love with the Beasley pick. Knew we made the right choice. The mindsets of both parties werent a good match at all.



Let's be honest. Whether they get along or not, Spo is a Championship Coach. Beasley was the MVP of the Chinese League. Chinese League???? Come on?!

Why go in public and say that? He's still immature, and Spo is still an NBA Head Coach with his team playing in the NBA finals.
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Post#748 » by dean456 » Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:01 am

This the roster for me at this stage.

Herro/Lowry/Anything else
JRich/Jaquez/Robinson
Butler/Martin/Highsmith
Love/Jovic/Swider
Bam/Bryant/Robinson

I don't want to see Dru Smith on this team, we've tried this for the last 2+yrs and it's just not working out. Don't feel very confident with Hampton either from what I've seen, he needs time in the G-League to develop how he's going to be able to play in our system. I would 100% take whatever John Wall has left over Dru Smith as our 3rd string PG at this point. I don't trust Dru with the ball at all.

Sign Swider to a contract, Waive Dru Smith, sign Wall and give Cain, RJ Hampton and Peterson 2-Way contracts and send them to the G-League.

Then see what develops at the trade deadline.
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Post#749 » by dean456 » Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:23 am

marson wrote:Beas putting the hammer on Spo :lol:



This is lame to be honest. Spo getting praise around the league as a coach and Beas feeling bitter and wants to take shots at him.

Sounds to me that Beasley was just immature and wasn't open to learning how to play team basketball and just wanted to get buckets. In his first year the guy had 27.7% USG and averaged 13ppg and 1apg...

The fact that he still bitter at Spo about this makes me wonder if he is this hard headed now after everything that happened in his career, then he was probably even worse back then. Which is likely why his career never amounted to anything even after he left Miami.

Zero self reflection in these comments.
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Post#750 » by Kobewade11 » Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:07 pm

Meh..Beasley is a guy that never took accountability for his own actions. They had to wake him up and drag him to his pre draft workout.
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Post#751 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:32 pm

1. Beasleys tweakin

2. Beasley saying he’s the best scoring option on a team that had Wade LeBron and Bosh is hilarious

3. If Beasley wasn’t on the dumb **** and had his head on straight he might’ve worked out, that’s on him.
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Post#752 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:35 pm

Read on Twitter


Looks like we have 3 in the top 100.

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Post#753 » by Rapaz » Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:45 pm

I like Beasley, but he’s a dumbass
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Post#754 » by AirP. » Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:59 pm

Now that Butler doesn't look like he's having to manage a problematic knee, wouldn't it be interesting to see him play like he did post all-star break most of the season to put some pressure on the Heat to improve the playoff roster. A draft pick, Robinson and maybe someone else could bring in another helpful person for the playoffs.

He could try to put an exclamation point on his career/legacy if he can have his best season this year.
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Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#755 » by contract » Wed Oct 11, 2023 2:52 pm

marson wrote:Beas putting the hammer on Spo :lol:


Michael Beasley is dumber that ****. He's low IQ on and off the court. All these years later and he still hasn't figured it out. It speaks volumes that Spo had to spend all his time telling him to move the ball. He think that he should have been accommodated? Why accommodate you when they can just replace you with another you? There's no shortage of guys that can average 19 ppg on poor efficiency. And some of those guys will move the ball when they are told to and aren't stoned all the time.
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Post#756 » by contract » Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:13 pm

Heat3 wrote:2023 Spo would develop and get more out of Beasley than 2008 Spo. Too tight a leash on Beas. He needed the Herro rookie treatment. Not the Bam slow development program.

But with Spo trying to prove himself and Wade wanting to win Beas came into a bad situation. This is not the first time Riley saw more in a player than Spo.

Funny him saying he’s a genius though lol

No, not too tight a leash on Beasley. Beasley just doesn't get it. Herro is a better player and scorer than Beasley ever was.

The entire time Beasley wasn't here ... he sucked just like when he was here. It's always someone else's fault, mainly that butthole in the mirror.
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Post#757 » by AirP. » Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:16 pm

How about this story that's not getting much traction... Harden only asking to go to the Clippers and LA not wanting to bid against themselves and the national media seems to be good with this while Lillard asking for just Miami was the worst thing in basketball and how dare the Heat not give up tons for Lillard. It's crazy how much made-up narratives there are in the NBA and how different teams are treated differently in the media.
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Post#758 » by smartcane » Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:31 pm

Beasley was an offensive mind player that didn't know how to take a back seat to anyone else on the court because he has always been the best person on the court. It is the same issue GS had with Wiseman and Phoenix had with Ayton. All great talents but need a team to be built around them to maximize that talent. Also this is why Carmelo would have never worked in Detroit.
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Post#759 » by contract » Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:33 pm

AirP. wrote:How about this story that's not getting much traction... Harden only asking to go to the Clippers and LA not wanting to bid against themselves and the national media seems to be good with this while Lillard asking for just Miami was the worst thing in basketball and how dare the Heat not give up tons for Lillard. It's crazy how much made-up narratives there are in the NBA and how different teams are treated differently in the media.

1. I haven't heard James Harden or anyone representing him say that he'll only play for the Clippers or anything of the sort.

2. Harden is on a one year deal. He doesn't need to say anything. No one is going to give up anything of value without assurances from Harden that he will re-sign.
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Post#760 » by contract » Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:35 pm

smartcane wrote:Beasley was an offensive mind player that didn't know how to take a back seat to anyone else on the court because he has always been the best person on the court. It is the same issue GS had with Wiseman and Phoenix had with Ayton. All great talents but need a team to be built around them to maximize that talent. Also this is why Carmelo would have never worked in Detroit.

Melo could score anywhere.
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