ImageImageImage

Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread

Moderators: KingDavid, QUIZ, MettaWorldPanda, Wiltside, IggieCC, BFRESH44, heat4life

User avatar
3ammy3uck3ts
RealGM
Posts: 38,904
And1: 52,787
Joined: Nov 11, 2021
 

Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#841 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:55 pm

Read on Twitter


Best defender in the world pretty easily tbh.
#FreeBam
#Klutch
User avatar
Bishop45
RealGM
Posts: 34,567
And1: 112,005
Joined: Apr 22, 2015
 

Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#842 » by Bishop45 » Sun Oct 15, 2023 12:14 am

rate_ wrote:Jaquez should be molded as a PG kinda like how they did with Winslow.


Cut Drew Smith, sign Winslow btw
Long Live Winnie. Mamba siempre

Rest in Power Chadwick

#PeaceinGaza #FreedomforPalestine
carnageta
Analyst
Posts: 3,238
And1: 8,326
Joined: Dec 16, 2019
 

Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#843 » by carnageta » Sun Oct 15, 2023 12:21 am

Hoping Bam, JJJ, Jovic, Herro, and Jimmy all get some burn tomorrow.
User avatar
MiamiLoyal926
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,544
And1: 2,791
Joined: Feb 02, 2016

Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#844 » by MiamiLoyal926 » Sun Oct 15, 2023 1:20 am

Bishop45 wrote:
rate_ wrote:Jaquez should be molded as a PG kinda like how they did with Winslow.


Cut Drew Smith, sign Winslow btw


I don’t get what the Heat see in Dru… with that being said, I also didn’t see what they saw in Gabe Vincent, and we know how that turned out.

With that said, I am ready to not see him get minutes in these preseason games and would love to see other players run the point. Not sure why they cut Bouyea, but I liked him better than Dru.
User avatar
dean456
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,283
And1: 7,293
Joined: Jul 04, 2017
 

Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#845 » by dean456 » Sun Oct 15, 2023 1:49 am

AirP. wrote:New Lowe Post Podcast out today with Tim Bontemps and they talk Miami. It's uploaded to spotify but there's not a tweet about it yet and you can listen to it here at apple podcasts.

Spoiler:
They also talk about Herro and both agree the Heat were better without Herro in the playoffs and Zach explains why which is basically is about his bad defense and how each round of the playoffs that can screw you. Zach also talks about what I also think, he needs to play more like Klay on offense vs dribbling around looking for his own shot.

On the above-mentioned podcast Zach Lowe and Tim Bontemps is taking the over for Miami (44.5) which is 45+ wins.
On the most recent Bill Simmons podcast, Simmons is also taking the over for Miami at 45+ wins.


I disagree with that assessment of the reason we improved. The reason we were better was because Jimmy was better. Jimmy playing like a top 5 player makes everything easier for the rest of the team. If Herro was there we would be slightly worse defensively but we would have been better offensively.
User avatar
insfo
RealGM
Posts: 11,034
And1: 13,831
Joined: Feb 02, 2005
Location: Ancora Imparo

Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#846 » by insfo » Sun Oct 15, 2023 3:44 am

Is it just me or has preseason been pretty underwhelming overall? I mean, it's like the talking heads are struggling to get excited about anything .. and they have to hype up Wemby for a couple of dunks against Miami's C/D team. Hoping this doesn't continue onto the season!
MorbidHEAT
Analyst
Posts: 3,198
And1: 5,773
Joined: Aug 04, 2010

Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#847 » by MorbidHEAT » Sun Oct 15, 2023 7:44 am

dean456 wrote:
AirP. wrote:New Lowe Post Podcast out today with Tim Bontemps and they talk Miami. It's uploaded to spotify but there's not a tweet about it yet and you can listen to it here at apple podcasts.

Spoiler:
They also talk about Herro and both agree the Heat were better without Herro in the playoffs and Zach explains why which is basically is about his bad defense and how each round of the playoffs that can screw you. Zach also talks about what I also think, he needs to play more like Klay on offense vs dribbling around looking for his own shot.

On the above-mentioned podcast Zach Lowe and Tim Bontemps is taking the over for Miami (44.5) which is 45+ wins.
On the most recent Bill Simmons podcast, Simmons is also taking the over for Miami at 45+ wins.


I disagree with that assessment of the reason we improved. The reason we were better was because Jimmy was better. Jimmy playing like a top 5 player makes everything easier for the rest of the team. If Herro was there we would be slightly worse defensively but we would have been better offensively.



100% agree. I would add the 3 point shooting as a reason as well. We couldn’t throw the ball in the ocean during the season and in the playoffs even Jimmy became a sharpshooter. Without the shooting, we don’t make it out of the east. Herro would have helped.
User avatar
dean456
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,283
And1: 7,293
Joined: Jul 04, 2017
 

Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#848 » by dean456 » Sun Oct 15, 2023 11:11 am

MorbidHEAT wrote:
dean456 wrote:
AirP. wrote:New Lowe Post Podcast out today with Tim Bontemps and they talk Miami. It's uploaded to spotify but there's not a tweet about it yet and you can listen to it here at apple podcasts.

Spoiler:
They also talk about Herro and both agree the Heat were better without Herro in the playoffs and Zach explains why which is basically is about his bad defense and how each round of the playoffs that can screw you. Zach also talks about what I also think, he needs to play more like Klay on offense vs dribbling around looking for his own shot.

On the above-mentioned podcast Zach Lowe and Tim Bontemps is taking the over for Miami (44.5) which is 45+ wins.
On the most recent Bill Simmons podcast, Simmons is also taking the over for Miami at 45+ wins.


I disagree with that assessment of the reason we improved. The reason we were better was because Jimmy was better. Jimmy playing like a top 5 player makes everything easier for the rest of the team. If Herro was there we would be slightly worse defensively but we would have been better offensively.



100% agree. I would add the 3 point shooting as a reason as well. We couldn’t throw the ball in the ocean during the season and in the playoffs even Jimmy became a sharpshooter. Without the shooting, we don’t make it out of the east. Herro would have helped.


The shooting improvement I believe was due to Jimmy also when he's that aggressive he's drawing multiple defenders and he's our best playmaker. Guys get easier looks and Jimmy's energy is contageous and makes everyone more confident
User avatar
dean456
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,283
And1: 7,293
Joined: Jul 04, 2017
 

Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#849 » by dean456 » Sun Oct 15, 2023 11:15 am

insfo wrote:Is it just me or has preseason been pretty underwhelming overall? I mean, it's like the talking heads are struggling to get excited about anything .. and they have to hype up Wemby for a couple of dunks against Miami's C/D team. Hoping this doesn't continue onto the season!


I have actually felt the opposite, felt like I've watch more competitive games then I can remember in preseason.
BBallFreak
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 57,529
And1: 18,776
Joined: Jun 23, 2001
   

Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#850 » by BBallFreak » Sun Oct 15, 2023 11:19 am

dean456 wrote:
AirP. wrote:New Lowe Post Podcast out today with Tim Bontemps and they talk Miami. It's uploaded to spotify but there's not a tweet about it yet and you can listen to it here at apple podcasts.

Spoiler:
They also talk about Herro and both agree the Heat were better without Herro in the playoffs and Zach explains why which is basically is about his bad defense and how each round of the playoffs that can screw you. Zach also talks about what I also think, he needs to play more like Klay on offense vs dribbling around looking for his own shot.

On the above-mentioned podcast Zach Lowe and Tim Bontemps is taking the over for Miami (44.5) which is 45+ wins.
On the most recent Bill Simmons podcast, Simmons is also taking the over for Miami at 45+ wins.


I disagree with that assessment of the reason we improved. The reason we were better was because Jimmy was better. Jimmy playing like a top 5 player makes everything easier for the rest of the team. If Herro was there we would be slightly worse defensively but we would have been better offensively.

Actually, statistically, Herro is a better defender than Strus.
User avatar
MiamiLoyal926
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,544
And1: 2,791
Joined: Feb 02, 2016

Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#851 » by MiamiLoyal926 » Sun Oct 15, 2023 1:52 pm

With two players waived yesterday (Williams and Peterson), that opens up the need to play our main guys a bit more in todays game. Hopefully we see more of the main attraction today on the court.

https://www.nba.com/heat/news/heat-waive-peterson-and-williams
Eagle4
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,501
And1: 2,030
Joined: Jan 25, 2016

Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#852 » by Eagle4 » Sun Oct 15, 2023 2:38 pm

dean456 wrote:
insfo wrote:Is it just me or has preseason been pretty underwhelming overall? I mean, it's like the talking heads are struggling to get excited about anything .. and they have to hype up Wemby for a couple of dunks against Miami's C/D team. Hoping this doesn't continue onto the season!


I have actually felt the opposite, felt like I've watch more competitive games then I can remember in preseason.
Yea could be wrong but I don't remember seeing so many stars/high draft picks etc suit this early in pre-season. Usually they wait til the last 2 games. I mean I've seen LeBron, Zion, Kawhi, AD and many other dudes play that are known to be either very injury prone or getting up there in age. Most of the top guns are only playing 20-ish minutes but still it's appreciated, been craving professional NBA ball.
IceColdCubano
General Manager
Posts: 9,169
And1: 17,285
Joined: Jul 05, 2017
       

Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#853 » by IceColdCubano » Sun Oct 15, 2023 3:35 pm

Waiting to see what our starting lineup is gonna be for tonight's game. I have a feeling we have another hybrid lineup with our starters getting little play time or a non-starting lineup opening again. Id guess we won't see the lineups far tighter until the last 2 games.
HEATVols865
General Manager
Posts: 9,025
And1: 6,698
Joined: Aug 09, 2002
Location: Knoxville, TN
       

Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#854 » by HEATVols865 » Sun Oct 15, 2023 8:06 pm

Can’t watch this game on League Pass here because of the Dan blackout rules and Bally Sports having the rights for the Grizzlies
#HEATLifer #VFL

You're welcome LeBron.

Tyler Herro is a TURD.
Bam is NOT elite but is getting better.
Fire Spoelstra!
Josh Heupel is coming for you.

I’m a proud admirer and lover of BBWs!

Formerly known as Brazilian, QueenOfFairies and HEATlanta.
wade44
General Manager
Posts: 8,249
And1: 14,166
Joined: Jun 09, 2018

Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#855 » by wade44 » Sun Oct 15, 2023 8:08 pm

3rd preseason game thread up!

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=2324944
User avatar
Wiltside
Forum Mod - Heat
Forum Mod - Heat
Posts: 24,579
And1: 78,910
Joined: Sep 16, 2016

Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#856 » by Wiltside » Sun Oct 15, 2023 8:20 pm

Bishop45 wrote:
rate_ wrote:Jaquez should be molded as a PG kinda like how they did with Winslow.


Cut Drew Smith, sign Winslow btw


Don’t tease me Bish.

But for real, do it. If we’re gonna have a PG that can’t shoot, give me one with size and better defense and playmaking skills.
Formerly BG44, MB30 and Wade County at BasketballForum.com
twix2500
RealGM
Posts: 28,025
And1: 28,394
Joined: Dec 25, 2003
   

Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#857 » by twix2500 » Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:11 am

Heat should target Gary Payton II

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
SerialChiller
General Manager
Posts: 8,164
And1: 14,148
Joined: Jul 05, 2012

Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#858 » by SerialChiller » Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:07 am

JRoy wrote:
Bourne85 wrote:Watching Portland game, I think all that “We don’t need Herro” stuff was dumb. I see nothing special in Sharpe or Simons. Herro as much as I don’t really care for him, is clearly better player than both of them. Scoot is too soon to judge but so far, haven’t seen anything special there either. Just cause Portland has a bunch of guards doesn’t mean those guys were better than Herro. Quality over quantity.

Ayton is another overpaid bum. I think Portland is screwed for years to come. Unless Scoot becomes an all star quick I don’t see them doing anything for the foreseeable future.


Simons and Herro are equivalent.

Don’t want or need Herro. Still.


This guy def a closet Heat fan or has a sick obsession with us hahaha
IceColdCubano
General Manager
Posts: 9,169
And1: 17,285
Joined: Jul 05, 2017
       

Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#859 » by IceColdCubano » Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:33 am

I don't know how much pre-season some of yall are watching but our boy Thomas Bryant looking hella better than Christian Wood. I Think now I see exactly what our FO was thinking, letting that one go, I think they made the right choice to date. I'll let the season play out and see how both do in their roles, something tells me were gonna be surprised.

Christian Wood last night vs the Bucks - 23 Minutes of play (1-6fg)(4rb)(2ast)(1stl)(2to)(-6)(3pts)
Thomas Bryant last night vs the Grizzlies - 17 Minutes of play (4-6fg)(FT 5-5)(4rb)(+4)(13pts)

Miami needed a guy who can in limited minutes with the bench mob put up points, get to the line, and have some semblance of skill. Those Bamless minutes are crucial, perhaps Wood just isn't the guy to produce in limited minutes.
twix2500
RealGM
Posts: 28,025
And1: 28,394
Joined: Dec 25, 2003
   

Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread 

Post#860 » by twix2500 » Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:51 pm

IceColdCubano wrote:I don't know how much pre-season some of yall are watching but our boy Thomas Bryant looking hella better than Christian Wood. I Think now I see exactly what our FO was thinking, letting that one go, I think they made the right choice to date. I'll let the season play out and see how both do in their roles, something tells me were gonna be surprised.

Christian Wood last night vs the Bucks - 23 Minutes of play (1-6fg)(4rb)(2ast)(1stl)(2to)(-6)(3pts)
Thomas Bryant last night vs the Grizzlies - 17 Minutes of play (4-6fg)(FT 5-5)(4rb)(+4)(13pts)

Miami needed a guy who can in limited minutes with the bench mob put up points, get to the line, and have some semblance of skill. Those Bamless minutes are crucial, perhaps Wood just isn't the guy to produce in limited minutes.
Bryant fits the Heat system better than Woods. He is a better screener, pick n roll/pop player. I know why many here wants Woods become they see him as more of a pure scorer and more athletic, thinking that he would average 18 pts a game as a go too player. Not understanding that is definitely not how he would be utilized here. Bryant can make plays off the ball and not have plays called for him, he is a better fit system wise. Many don't understand how important setting screens are for this team. Its like the difference between Ariza and Tucker.

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

Return to Miami Heat