Trae Young is Ridiculously Underrated

[jowglenn]

Trae Young was first underrated - only the 5th pick in the draft??

Then he blew up, was putting up 29/9 in his 2nd year, and people were calling him a future MVP candidate. At this point, Trae Young was overrated.

Then the overcorrection came. Folks realized his defense was shoddy, his shot selection isn't always that great, his team hasn't ascended past "playoff team". Suddenly he's being ranked in the 20s? Clearly he's underrated.


Now this season he's going to have a renaissance, people will put him back in the top 10, he'll be overrated again, and the cycle will begin anew

[Lockdown504090]

Those numbers are terrible. That's why Atlanta has a new coach.

The impressive aspect is that Trae has a stunningly high assist rate on drive-and-kick passes even though his team's offense intentionally de-emphasized outside shooting.

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Need more north/south from him and more C&S ability on the court.

problem i see with the hawks is that trae, was leading the league in dribbles pretty much, but not that high up in passes, but a large chunk of his passes were assists. So he has the ball a lot, and nobody else is creating anything. Then on top of that, his own scoring was meh. thats morale killing, and thats even after adding dejonte murray.

Who else was capable of creating much of anything in Nate's offense? In order for the 'Trae off ball' to be effective, you needed someone to actually be able to get him the ball for CnS opportunities or make plays for others. None of Hunter, Collins or Capela are adept passers and the biggest flaw of all was Nate's offensive philosophy.

From an article last December:

[b]It's hard to even say McMillan has instituted any kind of offensive system. Any shot the Hawks get is a result of individual creation, almost entirely by either Young or Murray.[/b] The Hawks make the fewest passes per game in the league by a wide margin, and their off-ball movement is virtually nonexistent. [b]Young still hasn't committed to that aspect of his game, and that's on him, but to be fair McMillan hasn't implemented the kind of impromptu screening and cutting culture required to make the movement of a player like Young consistently worthwhile. It takes everyone working together and in anticipation to free up a shooter, not just one guy running around.[/b]
To be fair, the Hawks finished with the No. 2 offense last season playing largely the same way, ..........but the your-turn-my-turn creation philosophy with Young and Murray feels positively pick-upish. There needs to be a system that can create shots for the shot creators. 

McMillan has not proven he's the guy to institute that kind of thing, either because he doesn't believe in such an offense, lacks the creativity to put it in play, or can't get the players, specifically Young, who's used to controlling everything with the ball in his hands, to buy into such a change

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/trae-young-gives-hawks-a-punchers-chance-now-but-their-real-window-should-open-in-a-few-years/amp/

dont disagree at all with any of that, it was an unhappy situation last szn for them. nate was an issue. regardless, thats a recipe for guys mailing it in. I know trae gets a lot of hate, some fairly, but the guy is uneniably an all time great passer. you have to be hitting the pipe to not see it.

[Jamaaliver]

Trae Young was first underrated - only the 5th pick in the draft??

Then he blew up, was putting up 29/9 in his 2nd year, and people were calling him a future MVP candidate. At this point, Trae Young was overrated.

Then the overcorrection came. Folks realized his defense was shoddy, his shot selection isn't always that great, his team hasn't ascended past "playoff team". Suddenly he's being ranked in the 20s? Clearly he's underrated.


Now this season he's going to have a renaissance, people will put him back in the top 10, he'll be overrated again, and the cycle will begin anew

This guy gets it!!!

2 points to Gryffindor.

[kg01]

This actually hurts to read if you actually watched SGA play he is consistently driving to the rim and I believe he leads the league in that regard. There is a difference in earning your fouls and baiting.

Where's your proof?

[kg01]

Trae Young doesnt really do anything well but bait fouls and shoot FTs...

Poor FG% Poor 3pt% bad defender and led the league in turnovers...

Can he get better? Sure.

But as of now hes pretty lame.

He's one of the best playmakers in the league. Saying he doesn't do anything but bait foul and shoot FTs while ignoring that is absurd.

This. The guy deserves criticism, obvi. But folks saying he "doesn't do anything well but bait fouls and shoot FTs" are saying more about their own prowess as basketball watchers than they're saying about his prowess as a basketball player.

[Lockdown504090]

This actually hurts to read if you actually watched SGA play he is consistently driving to the rim and I believe he leads the league in that regard. There is a difference in earning your fouls and baiting.

Where's your proof?

shai led the league in drives, by a landslide, thats an easily findable stat. the difference betwen shai and morant whos in 2nd is the difference between trae, whos like 5th or 6th, and the 20th ish guy. he also doesnt pass the ball for how much he dribbles/possesses either though and gets way less criticism than trae does for it though so thats something to monitor if/when they get teammates and coaches on the rosters.

[kg01]

This actually hurts to read if you actually watched SGA play he is consistently driving to the rim and I believe he leads the league in that regard. There is a difference in earning your fouls and baiting.

Where's your proof?

shai led the league in drives, by a landslide, thats an easily findable stat. the difference betwen shai and morant whos in 2nd is the difference between trae, whos like 5th or 6th, and the 20th ish guy. he also doesnt pass the ball for how much he dribbles/possesses either though and gets way less criticism than trae does for it though so thats something to monitor if/when they get teammates and coaches on the rosters.

Thanks, I'm just giving him a hard time. And don't be doing his homework for him.

[jasonxxx102]

This actually hurts to read if you actually watched SGA play he is consistently driving to the rim and I believe he leads the league in that regard. There is a difference in earning your fouls and baiting.

Where's your proof?

you could literally go to NBA.com and look......

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/drives?dir=D&sort=DRIVES

[kg01]

This actually hurts to read if you actually watched SGA play he is consistently driving to the rim and I believe he leads the league in that regard. There is a difference in earning your fouls and baiting.

Where's your proof?

you could literally go to NBA.com and look......

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/drives?dir=D&sort=DRIVES

Good, now explain how the 5'12", skinny guy thats top 5 in drives isn't earning fouls while the athletic specimen that can bully his way into the lane is?

[Galloisdaman]

I actually feel he is way overrated. Reminds me of Chucks me, myself, and Iverson line decades ago.

[jasonxxx102]

Where's your proof?

you could literally go to NBA.com and look......

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/drives?dir=D&sort=DRIVES

Good, now explain how the 5'12", skinny guy thats top 5 in drives isn't earning fouls while the athletic specimen that can bully his way into the lane is?

what are you talking about? He's 9th in the league in fouls drawn per drive

[kg01]

you could literally go to NBA.com and look......

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/drives?dir=D&sort=DRIVES

Good, now explain how the 5'12", skinny guy thats top 5 in drives isn't earning fouls while the athletic specimen that can bully his way into the lane is?

what are you talking about? He's 9th in the league in fouls drawn per drive

I'm saying they both drive pretty heavily into the lane.

The other guy explained SGA's high FT attempts as being because he's a heavy driver. I, with your help, was suggesting Trae is also a player that drives into the lane a high amount. My question, to that other guy not necessarily to you, is why he chose not to acknowledge that Trae gets into the lane at a high rate as well ... and that's also why he gets a lot of fts.

[Jamaaliver]

I actually feel he is way overrated. Reminds me of Chucks me, myself, and Iverson line decades ago.

Et tu, Gallo guy?

Et tu?

[Galloisdaman]

I actually feel he is way overrated. Reminds me of Chucks me, myself, and Iverson line decades ago.

Et tu, Gallo guy?

Et tu?

Just being honest. Its not personal against Trae. Just do not think that style of ball benefits the rest of the team. I didn't for Iversin. I didn't for Marbury. I don't for Trae. If Trae is on it can work but when he is not on its too late to expect other Hawks to be sharp.

[art_tatum]

The math doesn't check out for Trae to be a elite winning player.

Not so far at least.

[JustBuzzin]

Luka fanboyz be like he made the conference finals a few years ago.

Trae Young like yeah me too bro.

Real basketball heads know Luka and Trae on the same level.

[Dacost]

Nothing but respect for Trae but for me no one with his body build is ever going to be Nothing but a below average defender at most.

[NBA4Lyfe]

Trae young is hated by casuals and the media because he was compared to Stephen curry as a prospect but would rather play and emulate James harden. The hawks even got trae young Clint capela and a very poor man’s version of of Chris Paul to play next to him.

Steph curry has himself to blame when trae was drafted, steph curry dismissed the trae/curry comparison. So trae went to houston to train with James harden similar to what tyrese maxey has been doing with harden as well. The young guards in the nba love harden while the nba media members love Stephen curry

Also I love how Steve Kerr got karma by intentionally keeping trae young off of team USA, and then proceeded to get humbled and have the country embarrassed on the world stage.

[Jamaaliver]

[tsherkin]

A big postseason would go a long way to answering questions for Trae, I'd think. He's a monster in the RS otherwise.