Nobody consider Orlando Magic as a playoff team in 2023-24 season

[eyriq]

Before we figured out if we are for the playoff, we at least have to figure out our rotation.

Is Jonathan Isaac going to play a lot from the bench? We do we play more, Cole or Black? What is Suggs situation as a starting SG while Gary Harris being the best 3 pt shooter on the team?

A lot of questions to be honest and I do not know where this franchise is heading towards. Why? Because we do not even know who to invest and who to be off the team. If I am Jeff, I'd make a big trade

Good breakdown

Backup PG battle between Black and Cole
Starting SG battle between Suggs and Harris
Backup SG battle between Suggs, Harris, Cole, and Jett

You can pick 4 and you have 6 solid options to choose from. Definitely in a trade warning through the trade deadline.

[Knightro]

I don’t think there’s any real debate on the rotation at this point.

Starters: Fultz, Suggs, F. Wagner, Banchero, Carter

Backups: Anthony, Harris, Ingles, Isaac, M. Wagner

Third string: Black, Howard, Houstan, Okeke, Bitadze

I think the only question to ask at this point is whether or not they will actually play 10 instead of just 9 and if they do go with 10, will they attempt to stagger Franz and Paolo so one of them is on the court at all times.

[eyriq]

I don’t think there’s any real debate on the rotation at this point.

Starters: Fultz, Suggs, F. Wagner, Banchero, Carter

Backups: Anthony, Harris, Ingles, Isaac, M. Wagner

Third string: Black, Howard, Houstan, Okeke, Bitadze

I think the only question to ask at this point is whether or not they will actually play 10 instead of just 9 and if they do go with 10, will they attempt to stagger Franz and Paolo so one of them is on the court at all times.

Black has come in for Fultz in both games and a Black/Cole backcourt has looked promising. Harris should be the odd man out, and if anything we have evidence this is the case over any other scenario.

[basketballRob]

I think Black may have beat out Harris in camp.

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[Knightro]

I don’t think there’s any real debate on the rotation at this point.

Starters: Fultz, Suggs, F. Wagner, Banchero, Carter

Backups: Anthony, Harris, Ingles, Isaac, M. Wagner

Third string: Black, Howard, Houstan, Okeke, Bitadze

I think the only question to ask at this point is whether or not they will actually play 10 instead of just 9 and if they do go with 10, will they attempt to stagger Franz and Paolo so one of them is on the court at all times.

Black has come in for Fultz in both games and a Black/Cole backcourt has looked promising. Harris should be the odd man out, and if anything we have evidence this is the case over any other scenario.

C’mon now. Ingles and Harris each rested a game.

That isn’t how it’s going to be in the season.

[Knightro]

I think Black may have beat out Harris in camp.

I’ll believe that when I actually see it.

Black needs the preseason reps and minutes more than Harris or Ingles do, ya know?

Those guys are vets and Mosley knows what he’s gonna get out of them.

[eyriq]

I don’t think there’s any real debate on the rotation at this point.

Starters: Fultz, Suggs, F. Wagner, Banchero, Carter

Backups: Anthony, Harris, Ingles, Isaac, M. Wagner

Third string: Black, Howard, Houstan, Okeke, Bitadze

I think the only question to ask at this point is whether or not they will actually play 10 instead of just 9 and if they do go with 10, will they attempt to stagger Franz and Paolo so one of them is on the court at all times.

Black has come in for Fultz in both games and a Black/Cole backcourt has looked promising. Harris should be the odd man out, and if anything we have evidence this is the case over any other scenario.

C’mon now. Ingles and Harris each rested a game.

That isn’t how it’s going to be in the season.

They rested because they aren't a priority.

[Knightro]

They rested because they aren't a priority.

They rested because they’re veterans who don’t need reps compared to a 19-year-old rookie.

[eyriq]

They rested because they aren't a priority.

They rested because they’re veterans who don’t need reps compared to a 19-year-old rookie.

I've heard from a reliable source that Black might have beat out Harris in training camp.

Edit: that's a joke, I'm referencing the post above. I'm hilarious, I know

[Bensational]

I feel like spots 4-12 will be a close race and a post ASB run could propel a team from 8th to 4th, and that’s what I think we’ll do. We’ll surprise and rise up to finish 4th or 5th with a 48 win season.

My backup win number is 42, because everything is coming up 42 in 24!

[jezzerinho]

3 best teams for me are Boston, Milwaukee and Knicks. Solid, well coached teams with talent and vet savvy. Giannis' constant health is not as key to the Bucks future with the arrival of Dame.

Then you have Cleveland. I think they made some great additions by getting shooters/scorers and a possible bargain in Bates. Their game can work in Reg season and now in playoffs too.


You have three vet contenders in Miami, Toronto and Philly. They could join the upper group or all three could be a lot further down the standings than people think. They're a bigger swing group than the young up-and-comers, in terms or range of outcomes.

Up-and-comers are Indiana and Orlando. I don't include Detroit because i believe their young players havent confirmed their potential yet to the degree of Ind and Orl. Either one, or both of these teams could make a big leap up the rankings.

Then you have Chicago, Atlanta and Brooklyn. Lots of vet presence but the whole doesnt equal the sum of their parts. Brooklyn are a bunch of selfish mercenaries, Atlanta are inconsistent, defensively shaky and reliant on Young. A year too soon for Griffin and Bufkin to help solidify them. Chicago are soft in the middle. This group of three don't have the unity and heart to survive the dogfight that this year's EC will be. One might do well, but all three will not.

Then the rest. Detroit, Charlotte, Washington. What needs to be said?

Looking at the list, I think 7th is eminently achievable. Playoffs not impossible though. In a season expected to be a dogfight, hard-playing, unified teams who can pull off close victories will do well. Orlando is certainly that. Our bench Cole, Harris, Ingles, Isaac, Goga/Moe is up there with the best.

7th then.

[pepe1991]

Imo East standings would be:
1) Boston
2) Bucks
3) Cavs
4) Knicks
5) Heat or 76ers

Bottom of it has playin to to make. Sneaky good team could be Nets. Lot of players in contract years to go extra hard. Mainly Claxston, Dinwiddie & Royce

[Hogified05]

I'd be shocked if we don't win at least 40 games if we are healthy this year. Somewhere between 40-45 wins I think this year.

We were 29-28 after Fultz came back.

We have the talent but I don't think I've ever seen such good juju around an Orlando team. The chemistry is just off the charts these guys really like each other and the organization. I think most teams would have outcasted JI for his outspoken views. They seem to love him. The whole donating to DeSantis campagin I think would have been a bigger story on another team. I think some teams players would have made a bigger stink out of it and the story would have lasted longer. It just kinda vanished because none of the players seemed to care.

Seriously. I've been watching the Magic since before Shaq. Never seen an Orlando team with this much good vibes. I don't think 50 wins is out of the question with these vibes/talent around the organization. Just need the health for once.

[SOUL]

Seriously. I've been watching the Magic since before Shaq. Never seen an Orlando team with this much good vibes.

[RichCollab]

Do we really think teams gave their best effort against us last year?

Teams are going to be more prepared to play so we are better but wins aren’t going to come as easy this year.

[drsd]

Do we really think teams gave their best effort against us last year?

Teams are going to be more prepared to play so we are better but wins aren’t going to come as easy this year.

Yes.

Many coaches in the league have been quoted that Orlando was a hard visit. So: yes teams got prepared for their Orlando visits.

[jezzerinho]

Do we really think teams gave their best effort against us last year?

Teams are going to be more prepared to play so we are better but wins aren’t going to come as easy this year.

Yes.

Many coaches in the league have been quoted that Orlando was a hard visit. So: yes teams got prepared for their Orlando visits.

Maybe so, but a lot of the better teams we faced and beat werent at full strength. Thats a pretty big caveat.

Im bullish overall that our record will be better, but injuries and how strong a lineup teams field against us will be big determining factors.

[bigdogdylan5]

The problem is going to be our early schedule which is crazy brutal in my opinion. People are going to lose their minds but it’s a long season and if we are close in March that schedule becomes pretty darn soft we can make a big run.

[bigdogdylan5]

Seriously. I've been watching the Magic since before Shaq. Never seen an Orlando team with this much good vibes.

It’s crazy like the vibes are close to the Dwight years already. I think the younger people who have only experienced post Dwight are buzz kills lol

[bigdogdylan5]

I don’t think there’s any real debate on the rotation at this point.

Starters: Fultz, Suggs, F. Wagner, Banchero, Carter

Backups: Anthony, Harris, Ingles, Isaac, M. Wagner

Third string: Black, Howard, Houstan, Okeke, Bitadze

I think the only question to ask at this point is whether or not they will actually play 10 instead of just 9 and if they do go with 10, will they attempt to stagger Franz and Paolo so one of them is on the court at all times.

Black has come in for Fultz in both games and a Black/Cole backcourt has looked promising. Harris should be the odd man out, and if anything we have evidence this is the case over any other scenario.

The black and Cole backcourt has looked horrifying. They have been sticking Black in the corner on offense. The Harris obsession is a bit annoying. My bet is he is traded at deadline unless he has just been shooting extremely well and we can’t. I think they want more minutes to open up in second half. Hopefully Black and Jett are feeling more comfortable by then