Jump into the Poole Party: The Official Jordan Poole Thread

[Dat2U]

I hope Unseld Jr has the balls to pull him when he has his 6-25 nights. I'd rather see losing team basketball than losing selfish basketball.

If Poole is fairly efficient most games—and getting to
the FT line—I don’t think who pull him simply because he’s having a bad shooting game.

He’s easily the Zards best offensive player and we’re gonna have to live with the ups and downs.

The problem is the tone you're setting when you let him miss shot after shot with no penalty. It's the type of basketball I thought the Wizards were trying to move away from.

He's 19-60 in the preseason. That can't continue.

The Wizards playing ISO ball was never problem or the reason for our struggles. The overall lack of talent & depth of scoring options has been the main problem. We didn't dump Beal because of his shot selection. We dumped him because of his salary, his injury history and he wasn't getting any younger. I have no problem with Poole getting shots up, someone absolutely has to and he's one of the few guys on the roster with enough skills to create his own opportunities. Worrying about preseason fg% is silly as vets often use these minutes to work on their games and experiment.

[nate33]

If Poole is fairly efficient most games—and getting to
the FT line—I don’t think who pull him simply because he’s having a bad shooting game.

He’s easily the Zards best offensive player and we’re gonna have to live with the ups and downs.

The problem is the tone you're setting when you let him miss shot after shot with no penalty. It's the type of basketball I thought the Wizards were trying to move away from.

He's 19-60 in the preseason. That can't continue.

The Wizards playing ISO ball was never problem or the reason for our struggles. The overall lack of talent & depth of scoring options has been the main problem. We didn't dump Beal because of his shot selection. We dumped him because of his salary, his injury history and he wasn't getting any younger. I have no problem with Poole getting shots up, someone absolutely has to and he's one of the few guys on the roster with enough skills to create his own opportunities. Worrying about preseason fg% is silly as vets often use these minutes to work on their games and experiment.

Also, a good coach doesn't bench a star or tell him not to shoot just because he was cold in the first half. A good coach focuses on process, not results. If you want to criticize Poole for taking bad shots, it shouldn't matter if they went in or not. You don't retroactively criticize a player for the shots that missed. That just leads to a lack of confidence and more missed shots.

For now, it is pretty clear that Poole is our number 1 option. He is going to be the guy who has to take difficult shots when the offensive sets don't yield easy shots. He and Kuzma are the only guys on the roster who are really capable of that duty, so I'm fine with it. The only real critique I have with Poole's shot selection is that he takes a few too many high-degree-of-difficulty shots early in the shot clock. But as Dat2U points out, it's preseason. I'll wait until the regular season starts before worrying if it's a real problem or not.

[TGW]

Yea we’ll see. I don’t care for the ill-advised shot jacking, and I’m not buying the someone has to shoot argument. And it’s not just preseason…he was trash in the playoffs last season and he’s been trash in the preseason. Hes been awful for awhile now and I haven’t seen anything in a Wizards uniform that is remotely positive other than his one hot shooting game where he got bailed out on a lot of weak drives to the hoop.

We’ll see but the early returns are crap.

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Watch on YouTube

Always good to see some recognition in the media

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First the Board reacts to Poole as if he was a sure thing to lead the league in scoring or whatever; now the Board wants to treat him like he's Jordan Crawford.

Can we give this kid a chance, please?

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

First the Board reacts to Poole as if he was a sure thing to lead the league in scoring or whatever; now the Board wants to treat him like he's Jordan Crawford.

Can we give this kid a chance, please?

PIF, honestly, have you watched the games? He looks like he's drunk out there. Throwing up the most ridiculous shots completely out of rhythm. No, zero, zilch effort on D. Missing shots then turning around to mug for the camera.

[gambitx777]

First the Board reacts to Poole as if he was a sure thing to lead the league in scoring or whatever; now the Board wants to treat him like he's Jordan Crawford.

Can we give this kid a chance, please?

PIF, honestly, have you watched the games? He looks like he's drunk out there. Throwing up the most ridiculous shots completely out of rhythm. No, zero, zilch effort on D. Missing shots then turning around to mug for the camera.

I'm in the same boat as pif he is 24 years old. It's not on him that GS way over paid him now he's making a **** ton more than he should. He's got skills, he's young enough to improve, let's see if he can by into defence. He's has some solid steals and some good potions on that end. She it hasn't been great but he isn't sharks material either. New system new place let's see if his game picks up.

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[TGW]

I think someone took a sh*t in the Poole.

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if his agent asks for a trade at the deadline. He looks miserable and he's playing like trash.

[montestewart]

I think someone took a sh*t in the Poole.

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if his agent asks for a trade at the deadline. He looks miserable and he's playing like trash.

Took four games to pick up the nickname Cess. Shots don’t come so easy when you’re not playing in a contender’s top-flight offense. I’m still open to him maybe figuring out he has to make more adjustments than just thinking of himself as #1 option.

[machu46]

I think someone took a sh*t in the Poole.

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if his agent asks for a trade at the deadline. He looks miserable and he's playing like trash.

Took four games to pick up the nickname Cess. Shots don’t come so easy when you’re not playing in a contender’s top-flight offense. I’m still open to him maybe figuring out he has to make more adjustments than just thinking of himself as #1 option.

It’s not really that simple though considering how productive he was when Steph was out and Poole was essentially the only shot creator they had. He simply isn’t playing well right now and is also not on a good team.


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[long suffrin' boulez fan]

I think someone took a sh*t in the Poole.

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if his agent asks for a trade at the deadline. He looks miserable and he's playing like trash.

Took four games to pick up the nickname Cess. Shots don’t come so easy when you’re not playing in a contender’s top-flight offense. I’m still open to him maybe figuring out he has to make more adjustments than just thinking of himself as #1 option.

It’s not really that simple though considering how productive he was when Steph was out and Poole was essentially the only shot creator they had. He simply isn’t playing well right now and is also not on a good team.


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And his awful new team plays for a coach who can't get his team to play hard on the defensive end and who has one of the least imaginative offenses in the game. Throw the ball to one of the "horns" then one person cuts fruitlessly. The ball then moves, by a series of passes, farther to the perimeter as the shot clock winds down. Then Kuzma goes one on one, Kispert jacks one, or Deni puts his head down and charges to the rim. And that's on a good possession... the bad ones are when Poole, Kuz or Jones pull up for a long three without having moved the ball and without any one underneath to compete for a rebound.

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

Double post

[gambitx777]

There is zero reason to be up that Poole isn't that good right now. He needs to adjust and play better. Period. But we got ho. For a guy who was forcing hi way out he's 24. He no longer have a legend for a HC or greats on his team it's his show he needs to adjust and get better that's takes more than 4 games.

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[WallToWall]

I wonder what Poole think he needs to do to adjust? I wonder what his evaluation of himself would be. Any clues from very recent interviews, if any were done?

All things mentioned so far are true-
1. He is in an unimaginative offense
2. He think he has to green light to shoot at will
3. He is not on the same page with other teammates
4. He takes bad shots
5. He doesnt play good on ball D. Doesn’t really try.
6. His team D needs work.
7. His on-court leadership appears to be lacking
8. He doesn’t seem to be serious about playing.

It’s quite early in the season, but trends are developing. I only listed bad trends. I struggle to find good ones. Among to good, I had hoped to put FT shooting, getting to the line, 3 pt shooting, court vision… but all these are average…not bad, but not the positives I expected to see. It is all within him to be very good. We’ve seen it, albeit on the Warriors. The team and coaching woes play a part too. Still…
Maybe one thing to do is look at the players on the team who were here last season, and see how they’ve been affected by team and coaching woes, see how their numbers have changed. Maybe that gives a clue as to if our expectations for Poole are misguided.

[Kanyewest]

First the Board reacts to Poole as if he was a sure thing to lead the league in scoring or whatever; now the Board wants to treat him like he's Jordan Crawford.

Can we give this kid a chance, please?

I didn't know Kevin Garnett posted here.

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I do the postiing; he just tells me what to write. When he called this morning, he laughed & said:
"Sheesh....! This kid has played 100 minutes, & they're already ripping him to shreds...."

[AFM]

True. It's also fair to note that it's been some of the most selfish, uninterested, barely pretending to try 100 minutes of basketball I've ever seen in my life.

Still rooting for him though.

[Endless Loop]

Not for nothing that he only played 20 minutes last game. 6 other players had more minutes.

This year the on-court team has changed a lot, but I'd bet that the off-court processes have changed just as much. Giving your "best player" so few minutes says to me that the team's brain trust is aware of his issues and they won't tolerate them. Can't ask for more than that.

[nate33]

This year the on-court team has changed a lot, but I'd bet that the off-court processes have changed just as much. Giving your "best player" so few minutes says to me that the team's brain trust is aware of his issues and they won't tolerate them. Can't ask for more than that.

Yeah, it's one thing for a guy like Trae Young to take the occasional ill-advised reckless shot to keep the defense off balance. Trae has earned that right to at least some degree because he has consistently posted above-league-average scoring efficiency on high volume throughout his career. At the moment, Jordan Poole is nothing more than a career backup. He hasn't earned the right to recklessly chuck like that. It'll be interesting to see if and how Wes corrals him.

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

It be one thing if Poole was genuinely struggling on the court, which he is, but the antics is where he loses any sympathy votes. The jawing, the flexing, and the show boat shots (a couple where he missed as he turned around, another stuffed by Porzingis) are things he can easily avoid but has opted not to.

Sympathies not given.