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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#121 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:53 am

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Archx wrote:According to Kidd, Lively is working out with the 2nd group now aswell. Apparently they are looking at more options.

If Mavs had prime Shaq, Dwight Powell would still somehow be a starter. :rocking:

I believe him working out with the 2nd group is more-so about him building chemistry with other guys too. I guess with Kidd and the inevitable Powell, you never know though.


Or maybe even Kidd has some sense after all.


Lively is not NBA ready for sure, they admitted it right now... So why did they pick him? For tanking a couple of seasons with Luka and Irving in their prime?

Wow good plan :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#122 » by Teffer10 » Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:25 am

41Dirk41 wrote:
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Maverick41 wrote:I believe him working out with the 2nd group is more-so about him building chemistry with other guys too. I guess with Kidd and the inevitable Powell, you never know though.


Or maybe even Kidd has some sense after all.


Lively is not NBA ready for sure, they admitted it right now... So why did they pick him? For tanking a couple of seasons with Luka and Irving in their prime?

Wow good plan :lol: :lol: :lol:

And then they re-sign Powell as their backup plan if Lively isnt ready.
This is last year all over again but with Holms and Lively instead of Wood and McGee.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#123 » by Bob8 » Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:32 am

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41Dirk41 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Or maybe even Kidd has some sense after all.


Lively is not NBA ready for sure, they admitted it right now... So why did they pick him? For tanking a couple of seasons with Luka and Irving in their prime?

Wow good plan :lol: :lol: :lol:

And then they re-sign Powell as their backup plan if Lively isnt ready.
This is last year all over again but with Holms and Lively instead of Wood and McGee.


C situation is bizarre. How is possible that Euroleague clubs, the best have budgets, not just players salaries, but all expenses for the season, of 40 mio, vast majority lower than 20 mio, have better Cs than Mavs?
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#124 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:25 am

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41Dirk41 wrote:
Lively is not NBA ready for sure, they admitted it right now... So why did they pick him? For tanking a couple of seasons with Luka and Irving in their prime?

Wow good plan :lol: :lol: :lol:

And then they re-sign Powell as their backup plan if Lively isnt ready.
This is last year all over again but with Holms and Lively instead of Wood and McGee.


C situation is bizarre. How is possible that Euroleague clubs, the best have budgets, not just players salaries, but all expenses for the season, of 40 mio, vast majority lower than 20 mio, have better Cs than Mavs?


Reach that WCF was terrible for us... it could have been the starting point for us instead it started our decline.

The FO completely misunderstood the situation but nothing news with that moron Cuban on board.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#125 » by BliscoSantos » Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:44 am

Yeah,it's a weird situation...they Just signed C Tony Bradley for a 10-day contract....why?? He won't sign a two way,you don't have a roster spot open and you have Lively,Powell and Holmes at C ...and if you do sign him,is he really that much better than Powell...is he even better than Powell?? Right now the Holmes trade looks bad...yeah,they got Omax,but he has a lot of work and developement to do before he's ready to Play...that is if he even becomes what they think he could be..and if he doesn't,well then that trade Just became horrible
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Post#126 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Oct 20, 2023 10:12 am

We need Terry Stotts for the offensive end, Kidd simply can't.
If Cuban really wants Kidd on the bench it's ok but surrounding him with good coaches. Thanks.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#127 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Oct 20, 2023 10:15 am

BliscoSantos wrote:Yeah,it's a weird situation...they Just signed C Tony Bradley for a 10-day contract....why?? He won't sign a two way,you don't have a roster spot open and you have Lively,Powell and Holmes at C ...and if you do sign him,is he really that much better than Powell...is he even better than Powell?? Right now the Holmes trade looks bad...yeah,they got Omax,but he has a lot of work and developement to do before he's ready to Play...that is if he even becomes what they think he could be..and if he doesn't,well then that trade Just became horrible


Really? Tony Bradley?

This is the desperate move that i told you some days ago, they really thinked that Lively was NBA ready and Powell can play at basketball :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Post#128 » by DanEu » Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:16 am

We are a bit harsh on Powell.
Not his fault he is asked to play starter minutes and do things he isn't capable of doing.
That's on FO not on him. Bless his heart he does work his ass off every night.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#129 » by BliscoSantos » Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:32 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:Yeah,it's a weird situation...they Just signed C Tony Bradley for a 10-day contract....why?? He won't sign a two way,you don't have a roster spot open and you have Lively,Powell and Holmes at C ...and if you do sign him,is he really that much better than Powell...is he even better than Powell?? Right now the Holmes trade looks bad...yeah,they got Omax,but he has a lot of work and developement to do before he's ready to Play...that is if he even becomes what they think he could be..and if he doesn't,well then that trade Just became horrible


Really? Tony Bradley?

This is the desperate move that i told you some days ago, they really thinked that Lively was NBA ready and Powell can play at basketball :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:



It does bring a certain Deja vu moment from last year when they were convinced that Brunson leaving isn't gonna be a problem...hell they thought Frank could take his minutes and when that didn't work they brought Kemba,then Facu and finally they made a trade for Kyrie...this year they're making the same mistakes...they knew C upgrade is a must...Lively should be the backup and Powell and Holmes should not have been on the Mavs...maybe Powell as a third string C
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Post#130 » by Teffer10 » Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:46 pm

DanEu wrote:We are a bit harsh on Powell.
Not his fault he is asked to play starter minutes and do things he isn't capable of doing.
That's on FO not on him. Bless his heart he does work his ass off every night.

No hate on Powell, just don't want him starting or having a big role.
Great guy like Pinson but neither has any business starting for an NBA team.
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Post#131 » by ozwizard8 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:29 pm

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DanEu wrote:We are a bit harsh on Powell.
Not his fault he is asked to play starter minutes and do things he isn't capable of doing.
That's on FO not on him. Bless his heart he does work his ass off every night.

No hate on Powell, just don't want him starting or having a big role.
Great guy like Pinson but neither has any business starting for an NBA team.

Powell may have a place as 3rd string center. I am not sure if Pinson belongs to NBA roster.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#132 » by ozwizard8 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:31 pm

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Maverick41 wrote:I believe him working out with the 2nd group is more-so about him building chemistry with other guys too. I guess with Kidd and the inevitable Powell, you never know though.


Or maybe even Kidd has some sense after all.


Lively is not NBA ready for sure, they admitted it right now... So why did they pick him? For tanking a couple of seasons with Luka and Irving in their prime?

Wow good plan :lol: :lol: :lol:

Almost no defensive center comes to league ready. Omax situation is not better either.
Kyrie trade made everything impossible.

D. Ayton was so cheaply available. Wish we got him. I am not sure if we have enough draft picks to get Rob Williams or Ayton.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#133 » by Teffer10 » Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:56 am

Bob8 wrote:
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41Dirk41 wrote:
Lively is not NBA ready for sure, they admitted it right now... So why did they pick him? For tanking a couple of seasons with Luka and Irving in their prime?

Wow good plan :lol: :lol: :lol:

And then they re-sign Powell as their backup plan if Lively isnt ready.
This is last year all over again but with Holms and Lively instead of Wood and McGee.


C situation is bizarre. How is possible that Euroleague clubs, the best have budgets, not just players salaries, but all expenses for the season, of 40 mio, vast majority lower than 20 mio, have better Cs than Mavs?

Cuban and Kidd both know more than anyone that they had their greatest success in Mavs history with a roster full of defenders including a 3-headed monster at center.
I don't get it....I just don't understand how they can be so stubborn about the center position.

And the argument the league has changed is bull...Miami played with three superstars without any type of true center when we beat them with only one superstar.
Centers are still relevant...just ask any Nuggets fan.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#134 » by 41Dirk41 » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:26 pm

Teffer10 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:And then they re-sign Powell as their backup plan if Lively isnt ready.
This is last year all over again but with Holms and Lively instead of Wood and McGee.


C situation is bizarre. How is possible that Euroleague clubs, the best have budgets, not just players salaries, but all expenses for the season, of 40 mio, vast majority lower than 20 mio, have better Cs than Mavs?

Cuban and Kidd both know more than anyone that they had their greatest success in Mavs history with a roster full of defenders including a 3-headed monster at center.
I don't get it....I just don't understand how they can be so stubborn about the center position.

And the argument the league has changed is bull...Miami played with three superstars without any type of true center when we beat them with only one superstar.
Centers are still relevant...just ask any Nuggets fan.


The answer is simple... It was just lucky, indeed they didn't resign TC and traded for Lamar Odom... Fact.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#135 » by Mavrelous » Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:45 pm

Green extends 41/3, good deal IMO
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#136 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:07 pm

Mavrelous wrote:Green extends 41/3, good deal IMO


It's his price.

Jaden McDaniels 136M in 5 years :o :o :o
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Post#137 » by dirkforpres » Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:08 pm

Mavrelous wrote:Green extends 41/3, good deal IMO


Seems fair. Personally, im not a huge JG fan, but 14 a year is a manageable contract for what he brings to the table.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#138 » by Mavrelous » Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:14 pm

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Mavrelous wrote:Green extends 41/3, good deal IMO


It's his price.

Jaden McDaniels 136M in 5 years :o :o :o

I really like McDaniels, heavy price but best 3&D player in the league
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#139 » by Mavrelous » Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:22 pm

dirkforpres wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Green extends 41/3, good deal IMO


Seems fair. Personally, im not a huge JG fan, but 14 a year is a manageable contract for what he brings to the table.

This is better than Thybulle for 33/3.
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Post#140 » by Maverick41 » Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:34 pm

Solid deal. What comes now are expectations. With more money comes more responsibility. Can't have the random no show games anymore. He needs to be consistent.

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