2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas

[Jalen Bluntson]

I don't know how we can get rid of Randle....

In all honesty, I just want him to play well. I'm done hating him as much as I used to. He can help us win if he plays with some effort. I'll buy the surgery recovery BS excuse for another couple weeks. I'll give him that benefit even though his effort has not deserved it one bit this season.

To get rid of him? I don't know a single team that would trade for him.

[K_ick_God]

Shop Randle, Mitch some and IQ. Also possibly Grimes if you can snag someone major.

Look to play DDV and some Deuce and a player you get back if you trade IQ.

Realistically Mitch stays. Randle should go and you should try to get value for IQ so you don't have to pay him.

[Capn'O]

Raps fan coming in peace.

Any interest in a end of rotation type deal since you could use a F like:

Boucher and Young for Fournier and Sims.

Raps could use a real C to back up YAK since Koloko and Achiuwa are out and Fournier adds possible shooting they could always use off the bench when others shoot like garbage.

But essentially it's a Boucher for Sims deal for better fits on the team while Fournier and Young won't play much but their salaries make he deal work. Boucher has another year on his deal so is not expiring.

That trade makes a lot of sense for us. Otto Porter in place of Young would be a good get too.


Knicks and Raptors generally would make good trade partners if Masai can be reasonable with prices. Also there's the lawsuit beef. But you have a lot of long wings and we have a lot of small wings and the salaries match up.

[KnixinSix]

I don't know how we can get rid of Randle....

In all honesty, I just want him to play well. I'm done hating him as much as I used to. He can help us win if he plays with some effort. I'll buy the surgery recovery BS excuse for another couple weeks. I'll give him that benefit even though his effort has not deserved it one bit this season.

To get rid of him? I don't know a single team that would trade for him.

Teams will be very motivated to get out of bigger/longer contracts of their stars especially if their teams are not true championship contenders with the looming CBA.

The two guys that right now jump out the most are KAT and LaVine. The price tags will not be big for these guys especially if these teams are not doing well before the trade deadline .

Randle unless he goes absolutely mental or gets injured this year is a shoe in for 22+ pts, 9-10 reb, 4-5 ast. He has pretty much averaged that or better his last 5 or 6 years. He will have enough value even with his warts to get one of those guys and possibly someone else like Mitchell.

[KnixinSix]

Shop Randle, Mitch some and IQ. Also possibly Grimes if you can snag someone major.

Look to play DDV and some Deuce and a player you get back if you trade IQ.

Realistically Mitch stays. Randle should go and you should try to get value for IQ so you don't have to pay him.

Randle, I-Hart , McBride and 1FRP for KAT and Naz Reid

IQ, Grimes, Fournier and 3FRPs for Donovan Mitchell


Rotation(Minutes):

KAT(22), Mitchell Robinson (26)
Naz Reid(30), KAT(12), Hart(6)
RJ Barrett(32), Hart(12), Naz (3)
Spidah(22), DDV(18), Hart(8)
Brunson(33), Spidah (12), DDV(3)

[Jalen Bluntson]

Shop Randle, Mitch some and IQ. Also possibly Grimes if you can snag someone major.

Look to play DDV and some Deuce and a player you get back if you trade IQ.

Realistically Mitch stays. Randle should go and you should try to get value for IQ so you don't have to pay him.

Randle, I-Hart , McBride and 1FRP for KAT and Naz Reid

IQ, Grimes, Fournier and 3FRPs for Donovan Mitchell

No way the first trade happens.

The second one almost makes sense but, less picks because they don't want to lose him for nothing. Donovan is not staying in CLE no matter who trades for him. He wants NYK. This is why I think he's the only player we can expect to get any time soon. Any other star player we can trade for hasn't surfaced yet.

[sol537]

Shop Randle, Mitch some and IQ. Also possibly Grimes if you can snag someone major.

Look to play DDV and some Deuce and a player you get back if you trade IQ.

Realistically Mitch stays. Randle should go and you should try to get value for IQ so you don't have to pay him.

Randle, I-Hart , McBride and 1FRP for KAT and Naz Reid

IQ, Grimes, Fournier and 3FRPs for Donovan Mitchell

I hate KAT but I would consider this because I hate Randle even more

Mitch / KAT / RJ / Spida / Brunson
Bench: Reid / Hart / DDV

I dunno man... very weak defensively and 4 guys in that starting line-up need the ball... I guess you could stagger Spida & Brunson where one is always on the court... it's a higher upside team than we have now but not sure if it's a true contender. We'd have to dish out most of our picks and we'd have KAT & Spida & Brunson on MAX salaries... lastly, CLE would want RJ back for Spida I would think...

[KnixinSix]

Shop Randle, Mitch some and IQ. Also possibly Grimes if you can snag someone major.

Look to play DDV and some Deuce and a player you get back if you trade IQ.

Realistically Mitch stays. Randle should go and you should try to get value for IQ so you don't have to pay him.

Randle, I-Hart , McBride and 1FRP for KAT and Naz Reid

IQ, Grimes, Fournier and 3FRPs for Donovan Mitchell

No way the first trade happens.

The second one almost makes sense but, less picks because they don't want to lose him for nothing. Donovan is not staying in CLE no matter who trades for him. He wants NYK. This is why I think he's the only player we can expect to get any time soon. Any other star player we can trade for hasn't surfaced yet.

I think Minny is an extremely motivated seller of KAT. Go look at KATs contract. An obsence 2 years of 60+M. We don't have a single player making 30M. We can absorb his contract better. And you cam bet Rosas knows exactly what Minny is thinking about him. On Mitchell you might be right.

KAT
23-24: 36M
24-25: 50M
25-26:56M
26-27: 61M
27-28: 64M

[KnixinSix]

Shop Randle, Mitch some and IQ. Also possibly Grimes if you can snag someone major.

Look to play DDV and some Deuce and a player you get back if you trade IQ.

Realistically Mitch stays. Randle should go and you should try to get value for IQ so you don't have to pay him.

Randle, I-Hart , McBride and 1FRP for KAT and Naz Reid

IQ, Grimes, Fournier and 3FRPs for Donovan Mitchell

I hate KAT but I would consider this because I hate Randle even more

Mitch / KAT / RJ / Spida / Brunson
Bench: Reid / Hart / DDV

I dunno man... very weak defensively and 4 guys in that starting line-up need the ball... I guess you could stagger Spida & Brunson where one is always on the court... it's a higher upside team than we have now but not sure if it's a true contender. We'd have to dish out most of our picks and we'd have KAT & Spida & Brunson on MAX salaries... lastly, CLE would want RJ back for Spida I would think...

Rotation(Minutes):

KAT(22), Mitchell Robinson (26)
Naz Reid(30), KAT(12), Hart(6)
RJ Barrett(32), Hart(12), Naz (3)
Spidah(22), DDV(18), Hart(8)
Brunson(33), Spidah (12), DDV(3)

There is a quality defensive player or two at EVERY position. Spidah and Brunson will only be on the court together for like 20 of 48M.

If Thibs rotates well, this is a very dynamic lineup that can do a little of everything

[Jalen Bluntson]

Randle, I-Hart , McBride and 1FRP for KAT and Naz Reid

IQ, Grimes, Fournier and 3FRPs for Donovan Mitchell

No way the first trade happens.

The second one almost makes sense but, less picks because they don't want to lose him for nothing. Donovan is not staying in CLE no matter who trades for him. He wants NYK. This is why I think he's the only player we can expect to get any time soon. Any other star player we can trade for hasn't surfaced yet.

I think Minny is an extremely motivated seller of KAT. Go look at KATs contract. An obsence 2 years of 60+M. We don't have a single player making 30M. We can absorb his contract better. On Mitchell you might be right.

Minnesota is not giving up both of those players for Randle and scraps. No way in hell. If we trade for KAT and Randle goes out, KAT splits time with Mitch at the 5 and(IF A MIRACLE HAPPENED) would split time with Reid at the 4.

Brunson/Grimes/RJ/Reid/KAT would make more sense.

[KnixinSix]

No way the first trade happens.

The second one almost makes sense but, less picks because they don't want to lose him for nothing. Donovan is not staying in CLE no matter who trades for him. He wants NYK. This is why I think he's the only player we can expect to get any time soon. Any other star player we can trade for hasn't surfaced yet.

I think Minny is an extremely motivated seller of KAT. Go look at KATs contract. An obsence 2 years of 60+M. We don't have a single player making 30M. We can absorb his contract better. On Mitchell you might be right.

Minnesota is not giving up both of those players for Randle and scraps. No way in hell. If we trade for KAT and Randle goes out, KAT splits time with Mitch at the 5 and(IF A MIRACLE HAPPENED) would split time with Reid at the 4.

Brunson/Grimes/RJ/Reid/KAT would make more sense.

Getting Randle at sub 30M is a steal for a 20+ 10 reb 4 ast player at the PF position. KAT may be the better player but when you factor economics with the looming CBA and KAT owed 270M until 2028 it changes things drastically

[Jalen Bluntson]

I think Minny is an extremely motivated seller of KAT. Go look at KATs contract. An obsence 2 years of 60+M. We don't have a single player making 30M. We can absorb his contract better. On Mitchell you might be right.

Minnesota is not giving up both of those players for Randle and scraps. No way in hell. If we trade for KAT and Randle goes out, KAT splits time with Mitch at the 5 and(IF A MIRACLE HAPPENED) would split time with Reid at the 4.

Brunson/Grimes/RJ/Reid/KAT would make more sense.

Getting Randle at sub 30M is a steal for a 20+ 10 reb 4 ast player at the PF position. KAT may be the better player but when you factor economics with the looming CBA it changes things drastically

That doesn't change anything. The trade you suggested is never going to happen. KAT has value. Reid has value. The only player you sent out that has value on this level is Randle and I doubt it's that much. One pick is not getting it done.

[K_ick_God]

Minnesota is not giving up both of those players for Randle and scraps. No way in hell. If we trade for KAT and Randle goes out, KAT splits time with Mitch at the 5 and(IF A MIRACLE HAPPENED) would split time with Reid at the 4.

Brunson/Grimes/RJ/Reid/KAT would make more sense.

Getting Randle at sub 30M is a steal for a 20+ 10 reb 4 ast player at the PF position. KAT may be the better player but when you factor economics with the looming CBA it changes things drastically

That doesn't change anything. The trade you suggested is never going to happen. KAT has value. Reid has value. The only player you sent out that has value on this level is Randle and I doubt it's that much. One pick is not getting it done.

KAT is really not very good and compared to his contract, he's bad.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Getting Randle at sub 30M is a steal for a 20+ 10 reb 4 ast player at the PF position. KAT may be the better player but when you factor economics with the looming CBA it changes things drastically

That doesn't change anything. The trade you suggested is never going to happen. KAT has value. Reid has value. The only player you sent out that has value on this level is Randle and I doubt it's that much. One pick is not getting it done.

KAT is really not very good and compared to his contract, he's bad.

They aren't giving him up for Randle and scraps.

[The Vo Show]

I know no one thinks this team has a ceiling past eastern conference appearance and that we are a true number 1 away from contending but I think if the following are true, all we need is a good big 3&d wing:

RJ continues the output/defense we've seen in the first 6 games,
Randle plays defense like he did in 20-21,
Brunson plays like he did last season,
Mitch continues the output we've seen in the first 8 games,
We keep IQ and the rest of our bench.

IF (and thats a big if) these things are true, I'm giving up 2-3 frps and Grimes for OG type player. OG, Jaden McDaniels, Herb Jones, or someone else like those guys. I think with a really good 3 & D wing to contend with the big wings, we can go toe to toe with anyone.

I think this team kind of reminds me of the 04 Pistons. Mitch is very similar to Ben Wallace. Randle and Sheed are similar (though I think Sheed is better, still can't deny Randle's numbers). Brunson and Chauncey. RJ and Tayshaun.

We have 4 guys who can score the ball in IQ, Brunson, Randle and RJ. The bench can explode. Our center minutes are really good. I don't think we are very far off from being a true contender.

[SuperflyKnick]

I know no one thinks this team has a ceiling past eastern conference appearance and that we are a true number 1 away from contending but I think if the following are true, all we need is a good big 3&d wing:

RJ continues the output/defense we've seen in the first 6 games,
Randle plays defense like he did in 20-21,
Brunson plays like he did last season,
Mitch continues the output we've seen in the first 8 games,
We keep IQ and the rest of our bench.

IF (and thats a big if) these things are true, I'm giving up 2-3 frps and Grimes for OG type player. OG, Jaden McDaniels, Herb Jones, or someone else like those guys. I think with a really good 3 & D wing to contend with the big wings, we can go toe to toe with anyone.

I think this team kind of reminds me of the 04 Pistons. Mitch is very similar to Ben Wallace. Randle and Sheed are similar (though I think Sheed is better, still can't deny Randle's numbers). Brunson and Chauncey. RJ and Tayshaun.

We have 4 guys who can score the ball in IQ, Brunson, Randle and RJ. The bench can explode. Our center minutes are really good. I don't think we are very far off from being a true contender.

Totally agree... This team needs a hybrid 3-4 wing who can step up and play defence and shoot well... keeps the rotation at 9 still, we get a backup 4 , moves RJ back to his normal position at the 2 where he can finally use his size and strength to over power 2’s. Just have to find that player now

[robillionaire]

I know no one thinks this team has a ceiling past eastern conference appearance and that we are a true number 1 away from contending but I think if the following are true, all we need is a good big 3&d wing:

RJ continues the output/defense we've seen in the first 6 games,
Randle plays defense like he did in 20-21,
Brunson plays like he did last season,
Mitch continues the output we've seen in the first 8 games,
We keep IQ and the rest of our bench.

IF (and thats a big if) these things are true, I'm giving up 2-3 frps and Grimes for OG type player. OG, Jaden McDaniels, Herb Jones, or someone else like those guys. I think with a really good 3 & D wing to contend with the big wings, we can go toe to toe with anyone.

I think this team kind of reminds me of the 04 Pistons. Mitch is very similar to Ben Wallace. Randle and Sheed are similar (though I think Sheed is better, still can't deny Randle's numbers). Brunson and Chauncey. RJ and Tayshaun.

We have 4 guys who can score the ball in IQ, Brunson, Randle and RJ. The bench can explode. Our center minutes are really good. I don't think we are very far off from being a true contender.

Totally agree... This team needs a hybrid 3-4 wing who can step up and play defence and shoot well... keeps the rotation at 9 still, we get a backup 4 , moves RJ back to his normal position at the 2 where he can finally use his size and strength to over power 2’s. Just have to find that player now

OG is a versatile all nba 1st team defense player who can guard any position led the nba in steals and is shooting 41.7% on 6.9 3pt attempts a game I’d consider him

[thebuzzardman]

I know no one thinks this team has a ceiling past eastern conference appearance and that we are a true number 1 away from contending but I think if the following are true, all we need is a good big 3&d wing:

RJ continues the output/defense we've seen in the first 6 games,
Randle plays defense like he did in 20-21,
Brunson plays like he did last season,
Mitch continues the output we've seen in the first 8 games,
We keep IQ and the rest of our bench.

IF (and thats a big if) these things are true, I'm giving up 2-3 frps and Grimes for OG type player. OG, Jaden McDaniels, Herb Jones, or someone else like those guys. I think with a really good 3 & D wing to contend with the big wings, we can go toe to toe with anyone.

I think this team kind of reminds me of the 04 Pistons. Mitch is very similar to Ben Wallace. Randle and Sheed are similar (though I think Sheed is better, still can't deny Randle's numbers). Brunson and Chauncey. RJ and Tayshaun.

We have 4 guys who can score the ball in IQ, Brunson, Randle and RJ. The bench can explode. Our center minutes are really good. I don't think we are very far off from being a true contender.

Totally agree... This team needs a hybrid 3-4 wing who can step up and play defence and shoot well... keeps the rotation at 9 still, we get a backup 4 , moves RJ back to his normal position at the 2 where he can finally use his size and strength to over power 2’s. Just have to find that player now

OG is a versatile all nba 1st team defense player who can guard any position led the nba in steals and is shooting 41.7% on 6.9 3pt attempts a game I’d consider him

Which rotational player do you trade?

Forget all the salary matching nonsense, other than it has to make some kind of vague sense. The Knicks have enough filler with Fournier to send a cheap guy like Grimes or IQ, or they can work out something closer in current salary, like RJ (a once popular idea) or Donte or Hart (whenever they are allowed to be traded, unlikely though that is)

I really go back and forth on IQ. He'll look awful and then absolutely indispensable.
I'd rather they retain him.

Has RJ turned the corner enough, creativity wise, and defense, to support OG as the starting SF?
RJ/Bullocks worked well enough.

[The Vo Show]

Totally agree... This team needs a hybrid 3-4 wing who can step up and play defence and shoot well... keeps the rotation at 9 still, we get a backup 4 , moves RJ back to his normal position at the 2 where he can finally use his size and strength to over power 2’s. Just have to find that player now

OG is a versatile all nba 1st team defense player who can guard any position led the nba in steals and is shooting 41.7% on 6.9 3pt attempts a game I’d consider him

Which rotational player do you trade?

Forget all the salary matching nonsense, other than it has to make some kind of vague sense. The Knicks have enough filler with Fournier to send a cheap guy like Grimes or IQ, or they can work out something closer in current salary, like RJ (a once popular idea) or Donte or Hart (whenever they are allowed to be traded, unlikely though that is)

I really go back and forth on IQ. He'll look awful and then absolutely indispensable.
I'd rather they retain him.

Has RJ turned the corner enough, creativity wise, and defense, to support OG as the starting SF?
RJ/Bullocks worked well enough.

I'm shipping Grimes out. I think he's really good and if he were like 2-3 inches taller, theres no need to trade. But we're just too small I feel. IQ may be the guy we send out since he's up for a new contract but I think he's a better player than Grimes. Plus, I think we need IQ off the bench to have enough scoring to be a real threat.

I could be wrong and maybe if we used Grimes in that bench unit instead of IQ, we'd see similar production, especially since DDV can be the playmaker. But I really like the Hart, DDV, IQ combo defensively. They are a menace when it comes to playing the passing lanes, rotations onto shooters, and team defense in general.

[Capn'O]

I did a little query this morning of players who might be underutilized based on production and whose teams have a ton of PFs. I.e. somewhat productive guys who might come cheap. Here's some wings/PFs that might be worth a target for our backup:

Trendon Watford - BK
Trayce Jackson-Davis - GSW
Santi Aldama - MEM
David Roddy - MEM
Nikola Jovic - MIA
Haywood Highsmith - MIA
Poku - OKC
Davis Bertans - OKC
Luka Samanic - UTH

Then there are all those guys on Toronto like Young and Porter and, of course, OG who won't come cheap. Philly has some forwards too. Watford and the Miami guys are unlikely to come cheap but I think are being underutilized in their current role.