NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2023-24

[jokeboy86]

Everyone knows I’m team Jokic but man, Hali doesn’t get talked about enough. One of my favorite players to watch in the league.

He better be the starting pg in the East and it's not even close imo.

[Special_Puppy]

Everyone knows I’m team Jokic but man, Hali doesn’t get talked about enough. One of my favorite players to watch in the league.

He better be the starting pg in the East and it's not even close imo.

Dame?

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[Lakers In 5]

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First of all, Embiid had an LCL sprain, not an MCL sprain. Secondly, this information is useless without knowing the severity of the sprain. Nice try though.

[KGtabake]

Bold prediction.
It's the Anthony Davis redemption tour.
Health is always a matter.
But if healthy.
The man has seen all of Giannis, Jokic, Embiid win.
Win the accolades he was supposed to win.
The "next great big man" who hasn't performed to the expectations. Who has seen others take what it should be his.

So I'll pick AD. For his motivation. For the fire i believe it has been set inside him.
I consider Giannis and Jokic better players than him. I think that Embiid is on the same level.
But this isn't an award for the best player.
It's an award for the regular season MVP.
AD has the motive. AD is the one that has to prove that he can lead a team.
If he does that with LeBron as a sidekick...this award can be his. Because he will have the narrative.

I guess....thank God i didn't place any bet.

[Exp0sed]

Everyone knows I’m team Jokic but man, Hali doesn’t get talked about enough. One of my favorite players to watch in the league.

Did u see what i posted itt about Hali yesterday?

I also didn't think he's talked about enough

After tonight i have him over Luka, Tatum etc



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[Exp0sed]

Everyone knows I’m team Jokic but man, Hali doesn’t get talked about enough. One of my favorite players to watch in the league.

He better be the starting pg in the East and it's not even close imo.

Dame?

Hali has been much better than Dame this season. He's got a legit MVP case in the early goings of the season

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[Wolfgang630]

Anthony Edwards and Haliburton definitely deserve the shout outs for how great they’ve been. I was disappointed with Edwards, but he’s picked it up and looks like a player who can lead a team.

[Johnny Firpo]

Anthony Edwards and Haliburton definitely deserve the shout outs for how great they’ve been. I was disappointed with Edwards, but he’s picked it up and looks like a player who can lead a team.

He does look like "the guy" so far, yes.

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First of all, Embiid had an LCL sprain, not an MCL sprain. Secondly, this information is useless without knowing the severity of the sprain. Nice try though.

Embid's was grade 2, which is basically 8 to 12 weeks according to the cleveland clinic. It was an LCL you were right, but all the reporting was that he would not be playing for a while if it was the regular season.

I love how everyone likes to **** on him for his playoff performance, but the dude is a warrior, and plays through injuries that many players sit out on.

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https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/21710-lcl-tears

Grade 2: Knee injuries are considered moderate. You have a partial tear in your LCL. For a grade 2 injury, you’ll need to use crutches and then a hinged knee brace. Recovery will take about eight to 12 weeks.

What was that about a nice try?

[Lakers In 5]

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First of all, Embiid had an LCL sprain, not an MCL sprain. Secondly, this information is useless without knowing the severity of the sprain. Nice try though.

Embid's was grade 2, which is basically 8 to 12 weeks according to the cleveland clinic. It was an LCL you were right, but all the reporting was that he would not be playing for a while if it was the regular season.

I love how everyone likes to **** on him for his playoff performance, but the dude is a warrior, and plays through injuries that many players sit out on.

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https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/21710-lcl-tears

Grade 2: Knee injuries are considered moderate. You have a partial tear in your LCL. For a grade 2 injury, you’ll need to use crutches and then a hinged knee brace. Recovery will take about eight to 12 weeks.

What was that about a nice try?

1. You tried sneaking in Embiid into Plumlee's injury while they didn't even have the same injury, and thus provided false information.
2. You don't know the severity of Plumlee's injury, thereby making any comparison a hypothesis by default.
3. Considered =/= definitive. Nobody has ever come out to communicate the severity of Embiid's injury, thus making this another hypothesis.
4. Considered more serious than grade 1 =/= grade 2.

So yes, it was a nice try. A failed try, but a nice one nonetheless. I wish you well in attempting to drive home some nonexistent point about Embiid and gorgeous resume of playoff shortcomings. Maybe one day you will succeed. But in the meantime:

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[eyeatoma]

First of all, Embiid had an LCL sprain, not an MCL sprain. Secondly, this information is useless without knowing the severity of the sprain. Nice try though.

Embid's was grade 2, which is basically 8 to 12 weeks according to the cleveland clinic. It was an LCL you were right, but all the reporting was that he would not be playing for a while if it was the regular season.

I love how everyone likes to **** on him for his playoff performance, but the dude is a warrior, and plays through injuries that many players sit out on.

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https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/21710-lcl-tears

Grade 2: Knee injuries are considered moderate. You have a partial tear in your LCL. For a grade 2 injury, you’ll need to use crutches and then a hinged knee brace. Recovery will take about eight to 12 weeks.

What was that about a nice try?

1. You tried sneaking in Embiid into Plumlee's injury while they didn't even have the same injury, and thus provided false information.
2. You don't know the severity of Plumlee's injury, thereby making any comparison a hypothesis by default.
3. Considered =/= definitive. Nobody has ever come out to communicate the severity of Embiid's injury, thus making this another hypothesis.
4. Considered more serious than grade 1 =/= grade 2.

So yes, it was a nice try. A failed try, but a nice one nonetheless. I wish you well in attempting to drive home some nonexistent point about Embiid and gorgeous resume of playoff shortcomings. Maybe one day you will succeed. But in the meantime:

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I didn't sneak anything. I noted you were right that it was an LCL. That is the issue of the tweeter and not me.

I then provided you with the correct report and now you're doubting its validity. Sorry you're not going to get a doctor signed medical report for injuries. That never happens. A Shams tweet saying it's greater than grade 1 means grade 2 lol. There's no grade 1.5 lol, not sure what definitive report you're looking for this is as good as it's gonna get. Shams is as accurate as they come. This isn't some run of the mill beat writer.

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Not a grade 1 that's for sure...

[Exp0sed]

Embiid is a..."warrior" - now I heard it all lmfao

[ty 4191]

I love how everyone likes to **** on him for his playoff performance, but the dude is a warrior, and plays through injuries that many players sit out on.

A warrior?

Games missed since 2016-2017 including playoffs:

Embiid: 170
Giannis: 74
Jokic: 39

IF Embiid could remain relatively healthy and in the lineup, he's be one of the top handful of centers of the 21st Century. But, he's averaged 57 games played per year during his entire career. He's even missed 8 playoff games since 2016-2017, out of 61 the 76ers have played.

Jokic has never missed a playoff game in his career. Not one. 68 for 68.

Giannis has missed only 5 out of 84 playoff games in his entire career with the Bucks.

Embiid is tremendous, but he's made of glass. The only more fragile and unreliable ATG center I can think of is Bill Walton, honestly.

[Cubbies2120]

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First of all, Embiid had an LCL sprain, not an MCL sprain. Secondly, this information is useless without knowing the severity of the sprain. Nice try though.

Embid's was grade 2, which is basically 8 to 12 weeks according to the cleveland clinic. It was an LCL you were right, but all the reporting was that he would not be playing for a while if it was the regular season.

I love how everyone likes to **** on him for his playoff performance, but the dude is a warrior, and plays through injuries that many players sit out on.

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https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/21710-lcl-tears

Grade 2: Knee injuries are considered moderate. You have a partial tear in your LCL. For a grade 2 injury, you’ll need to use crutches and then a hinged knee brace. Recovery will take about eight to 12 weeks.

What was that about a nice try?

"Is considered to be worse than a Grade 1" =/= Grade 2 sprain

Language matters. "Confirmed as Grade 2 sprain" or something of the like would help your argument.

Also, SPRAIN vs. TEAR.

https://www.goldenstateortho.com/sprain-vs-tear-know-the-difference/#:~:text=Tears%20can%20be%20a%20result,tears%20may%20take%20several%20months.

tears can be a result of the same movements that cause a sprain, however, a tear is a more serious injury.

You said he had a SPRAIN, the article you're linking speaks of TEARS.

[eyeatoma]

First of all, Embiid had an LCL sprain, not an MCL sprain. Secondly, this information is useless without knowing the severity of the sprain. Nice try though.

Embid's was grade 2, which is basically 8 to 12 weeks according to the cleveland clinic. It was an LCL you were right, but all the reporting was that he would not be playing for a while if it was the regular season.

I love how everyone likes to **** on him for his playoff performance, but the dude is a warrior, and plays through injuries that many players sit out on.

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https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/21710-lcl-tears

Grade 2: Knee injuries are considered moderate. You have a partial tear in your LCL. For a grade 2 injury, you’ll need to use crutches and then a hinged knee brace. Recovery will take about eight to 12 weeks.

What was that about a nice try?

"Is considered to be worse than a Grade 1" =/= Grade 2 sprain

Language matters. "Confirmed as Grade 2 sprain" or something of the like would help your argument.

Also, SPRAIN vs. TEAR.

https://www.goldenstateortho.com/sprain-vs-tear-know-the-difference/#:~:text=Tears%20can%20be%20a%20result,tears%20may%20take%20several%20months.

tears can be a result of the same movements that cause a sprain, however, a tear is a more serious injury.

You said he had a SPRAIN, the article you're linking speaks of TEARS.

A sprain is a partial tear...Grade 2 while technically still a sprain, is a partial tear. A grade 3 is a full rupture, i.e. a full tear.

The cleveland clinic article I shared. A grade 2 is a partial tear, not a sprain.

Grade 2: Knee injuries are considered moderate. You have a partial tear in your LCL. For a grade 2 injury, you’ll need to use crutches and then a hinged knee brace. Recovery will take about eight to 12 weeks.

Greater than grade 1, is grade 2, there is no grade 1.5.

[AlexanderRight]

Sixers fans thinking they're entitled to a mercy MVP every year just because Embiid is always hurt is some pretty lol stuff.

[docholliday99]

Everyone knows I’m team Jokic but man, Hali doesn’t get talked about enough. One of my favorite players to watch in the league.

THIS...just brought that up in another thread. His impact on and off the court and how he makes everyone so much better when he plays, is certainly worthy of MVP consideration.

I'd adjust that list of 9, by subtracting Booker off.

Nikola Jokic
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Luka Doncic
Jayson Tatum
Joel Embiid
Kevin Durant
Stephen Curry
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
***Tyrese Halibuton

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

I love how everyone likes to **** on him for his playoff performance, but the dude is a warrior, and plays through injuries that many players sit out on.

A warrior?

Games missed since 2016-2017 including playoffs:

Embiid: 170
Giannis: 74
Jokic: 39

IF Embiid could remain relatively healthy and in the lineup, he's be one of the top handful of centers of the 21st Century. But, he's averaged 57 games played per year during his entire career. He's even missed 8 playoff games since 2016-2017, out of 61 the 76ers have played.

Jokic has never missed a playoff game in his career. Not one. 68 for 68.

Giannis has missed only 5 out of 84 playoff games in his entire career with the Bucks.

Embiid is tremendous, but he's made of glass. The only more fragile and unreliable ATG center I can think of is Bill Walton, honestly.

As a Giannis homer I would add some of those 74 were old school rests when we were steam rolling the East (2018-20) and we sat Giannis since we had a commanding lead at the end of the season. Not load management or injuries.

[Impuniti]

There was a time a few years ago when Raptor fans were the most delusional on here, but that seems to have been replaced by Sixer fans. Injuries can be used as an excuse for 1, maybe 2 seasons at most (3 if they have a long career). If you have to use it every year, than that's who he is until he proves it otherwise. And what Embiid is, is a 29 year old conference finals virgin, most of the time due to his pathetic performances in the playoffs. One way for Embiid to at least limit part of his injuries would be to stop being one of the most embarrassing floppers in the entire league, but we all know he needs those desperate FTs to enhance his value during the game.

Nobody cares about his annual injury bug, go write and whine about it in the Sixers forum. Until then he's a top 5-8 player in the league with the worst dropoff RS to PS performances of anyone in this century.