Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV

[HMFFL]

Pascal Siakam seems to be a hit topic at the moment but I hope Joel Embiid becomes available. I see very few dominate players becoming available that really makes us a true contender. Joel Embiid night be the best option depending on how his relationship with the 76ers goes this season.

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[tbhawksfan1]

NBA Trades That Make Too Much Sense



Raptors Turn Back the Timeline

Atlanta Hawks Receive: Pascal Siakam and Jake LaRavia

Atlanta Hawks Lose: De'Andre Hunter, Bogdan Bogdanović and a 2029 first-round pick

The Hawks have long been rumored to be interested in Siakam, and this trade lands him there as part of a star trio that includes Trae Young and Dejounte Murray.

Giving up two rotation wings and a first-round pick may seem like a hefty price tag for Siakam, but Atlanta may be in a unique position to do so. Saddiq Bey, Jalen Johnson and AJ Griffin are all waiting in the (ahem) wings.

A consolidation trade makes sense when Atlanta is getting a player who has averaged more than 20 points per game in each of his last four seasons.


Toronto Raptors Receive: De'Andre Hunter, Luke Kennard, Brandon Clarke, a 2027 first-round pick from Memphis, a 2029 first-round pick from Memphis and a 2029 first-round pick from Atlanta

Toronto Raptors Lose: Pascal Siakam and O.G. Anunoby

Spoiler:

The Raptors can continue to tread water with a team that went 41-41 last season and lost Fred VanVleet this summer. Conversely, they could get what they can for Pascal Siakam and O.G. Anunoby right now, try to bottom out and emerge with more talent as Scottie Barnes nears his prime in a few years.

This deal sends three first-round picks to Toronto—the notion that they were ever going to get more than three for O.G. Anunoby always felt absurd—which is ultimately what matters most. De'Andre Hunter could be an interesting multipositional defender alongside Barnes, but he, Kennard and Clarke could all be gone by the time these picks start to convey.

Memphis Grizzlies Receive: Bogdan Bogdanović and O.G. Anunoby

Memphis Grizzlies Lose: Luke Kennard, Brandon Clarke, Jake LaRavia and a 2027 first-round pick and a 2029 first-round pick

Spoiler:

Anunoby has been attached to the Grizzlies in rumors for several months.The idea of a defense with him, Marcus Smart and Jaren Jackson Jr. would be terrifying for opposing offenses.

Losing the picks and Luke Kennard's outside shooting hurts, but Bogdan Bogdanović can replace some of the latter while adding some playmaking. After finishing second in the West last season, Memphis can justify a win-now move like this.

Bleacher Report

Bleacher Report doesn't know anymore than us what is said between these GMs, but I will say that this trade gets to a place where I would consider pulling the trigger...just need to slap a lottery protection on that 2029

[Jamaaliver]

Pascal Siakam seems to be a hit topic at the moment but I hope Joel Embiid becomes available. I see very few dominate players becoming available that really makes us a true contender. Joel Embiid night be the best option depending on how his relationship with the 76ers goes this season.

I'm curious, do you see Okongwu being able to play alongside Embiid?


More importantly, are you willing to trade 22 year old Okongwu for 29 year old Embiid given the latter's injury history?

[Jamaaliver]

Every NBA Team's Top 3 Trade Assets

Atlanta Hawks

Top Assets

• AJ Griffin
• De'Andre Hunter
• 2029 first-round pick

Rookie-scale wings are always coveted, and Griffin has real scoring chops, both as a complementary shooter and on-ball creator. His defense needs to tick up, but with three years of cost-controlled money left on his deal, he's critical to any blockbuster trade the Atlanta Hawks might pursue.

Hunter isn't necessarily in the same camp. His shot has proved come-and-go, he's solid-yet-unspectacular on defense, and the four-year, $90 million extension he signed last year kicks in this season. Even so, he fills the three-and-D archetype. The money might be a tad steep, but it also may never take up 15 percent of the salary cap.

Rounding out the asset trio is a distant first-rounder. Short-circuiting the long-term future of an aggressively unexceptional team is never a bad idea. This pick, which stretches to 2029 because of Atlanta's 2027 obligation to San Antonio, holds more appeal than Kobe Bufkin, the soon-to-be-more-expensive Onyeka Okongwu, Jalen Johnson, Saddiq Bey (extension-eligible), Bogdan Bogdanović or Clint Capela.

Include Dejounte Murray (trade-eligible after Jan. 8) or Trae Young if you're so inclined. Barring disaster, the Hawks profile as buyers. Improving your title chances while moving either of them is unlikely.

-Dan Favale

Bleacher Report

[Spates]

ATL gets:

Pascal Siakam
Rashaun Holmes

Dallas gets:

Capella
Otto Porter Jr

Toronto gets:

Bogdan Bogdanovic
Kleiber
Omax Prosper
Bufkin

How's that for ATL?

[jayu70]

ATL gets:

Pascal Siakam
Rashaun Holmes

Dallas gets:

Capella
Otto Porter Jr

Toronto gets:

Bogdan Bogdanovic
Kleiber
Omax Prosper
Bufkin

How's that for ATL?

Dallas isn't given up anything of value to get Capela.
Holmes was a salary dump with the pick that became Omax, he's still a salary dump. So that leaves Kleber for Capela?
I think the Hawks have moved on from Siakam, too much to give up for a rental. If this first game is any indication....Jalen Johnson just might be the future at PF.

[Jamaaliver]

ATL gets:

Pascal Siakam
Rashaun Holmes

How's that for ATL?

So Hawks give up Clint Capela, Bogdan Bogdanovic and Kobe Bufkin for 1 season of Pascal Siakam?



I'd probably pass...

Going from a 43 win team to a 46 win team isn't worth the trouble at this point.

[Jamaaliver]

The Pelicans Go All-In For Trae Young



New Orleans Pelicans receive: Trae Young

Atlanta Hawks receive: CJ McCollum, Herb Jones, 2024 first-round pick, 2026 first-round pick

Trae Young, the focal point of the acquisition for the New Orleans Pelicans, has showcased his scoring and playmaking prowess in the early games of the season. With an impressive average of 24.4 points and 10.2 assists per game, Young has been a dynamic force on the court. Despite a field goal percentage of 35.7%, his ability to create opportunities for himself and his teammates underscores his value as a premier playmaker in the league.

On the other side of the trade, C.J. McCollum brings a scoring touch that could complement the Pelicans' offensive scheme. In the six games he has played this season, McCollum has averaged 21.7 points, 5.7 assists, and 4.8 rebounds per game. Notably, his shooting efficiency stands out with a 44.0% field goal percentage and an impressive 38.3% from beyond the arc, adding a reliable perimeter threat to the Pelicans' arsenal.

Herb Jones, a promising defensive talent, has also made an impact in the early games of the season. Averaging 10.0 points, 3.9 rebounds, and 1.7 assists per game with a solid 47.1% field goal percentage, Jones provides a well-rounded contribution. His defensive capabilities, combined with a burgeoning offensive game, make him an intriguing asset in the trade.

Spoiler:

The core of this proposed trade revolves around the strategic vision of pairing Trae Young's dynamic playmaking skills with the explosive athleticism of Zion Williamson. This collaboration could revolutionize the Pelicans' offensive approach, with Brandon Ingram assuming a more focused scoring role, a dynamic akin to successful partnerships seen across the league.

Defensively, the lineup considerations factor in the limitations of Young and Ingram, proposing a configuration with Trae Young, Trey Murphy (recovering from injury), Brandon Ingram, Zion Williamson, and a defensively stalwart pivot, possibly Myles Turner. This setup seeks to strike a delicate balance between offensive firepower and defensive resilience, addressing potential vulnerabilities on the perimeter.

One of the trade's key advantages for the Pelicans lies in Young's ability to dominate in clutch situations. This not only adds a crucial dimension to their game but also alleviates the pressure on the team during high-stakes moments, potentially creating a more resilient and competitive squad.

The versatility introduced by Trae Young's acquisition extends beyond a formidable Big 3, providing the Pelicans with offensive depth. In the event of injuries, the team would boast multiple scoring options, mitigating the impact of individual absences and fostering a more adaptable offensive strategy.

Conversely, the Atlanta Hawks would receive C.J. McCollum, a seasoned guard with offensive prowess, Herb Jones, a promising defensive talent, and future draft assets. This trade aligns with Atlanta's roster needs, particularly with Dejounte Murray emerging as the primary ball handler and Jones contributing elite perimeter defense to support McCollum's offensive capabilities.

In essence, this proposed trade has the potential to redefine the trajectories of both franchises. It offers the Pelicans a dynamic offensive core and a pathway to contention while providing the Hawks with a more balanced roster and valuable draft assets for future maneuvers. The implications of such a move extend far beyond the individual player statistics, promising a reshaping of team dynamics and aspirations in the highly competitive landscape of the NBA.

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[HMFFL]

The Pelicans Go All-In For Trae Young



New Orleans Pelicans receive: Trae Young

Atlanta Hawks receive: CJ McCollum, Herb Jones, 2024 first-round pick, 2026 first-round pick

Trae Young, the focal point of the acquisition for the New Orleans Pelicans, has showcased his scoring and playmaking prowess in the early games of the season. With an impressive average of 24.4 points and 10.2 assists per game, Young has been a dynamic force on the court. Despite a field goal percentage of 35.7%, his ability to create opportunities for himself and his teammates underscores his value as a premier playmaker in the league.

On the other side of the trade, C.J. McCollum brings a scoring touch that could complement the Pelicans' offensive scheme. In the six games he has played this season, McCollum has averaged 21.7 points, 5.7 assists, and 4.8 rebounds per game. Notably, his shooting efficiency stands out with a 44.0% field goal percentage and an impressive 38.3% from beyond the arc, adding a reliable perimeter threat to the Pelicans' arsenal.

Herb Jones, a promising defensive talent, has also made an impact in the early games of the season. Averaging 10.0 points, 3.9 rebounds, and 1.7 assists per game with a solid 47.1% field goal percentage, Jones provides a well-rounded contribution. His defensive capabilities, combined with a burgeoning offensive game, make him an intriguing asset in the trade.

Spoiler:

The core of this proposed trade revolves around the strategic vision of pairing Trae Young's dynamic playmaking skills with the explosive athleticism of Zion Williamson. This collaboration could revolutionize the Pelicans' offensive approach, with Brandon Ingram assuming a more focused scoring role, a dynamic akin to successful partnerships seen across the league.

Defensively, the lineup considerations factor in the limitations of Young and Ingram, proposing a configuration with Trae Young, Trey Murphy (recovering from injury), Brandon Ingram, Zion Williamson, and a defensively stalwart pivot, possibly Myles Turner. This setup seeks to strike a delicate balance between offensive firepower and defensive resilience, addressing potential vulnerabilities on the perimeter.

One of the trade's key advantages for the Pelicans lies in Young's ability to dominate in clutch situations. This not only adds a crucial dimension to their game but also alleviates the pressure on the team during high-stakes moments, potentially creating a more resilient and competitive squad.

The versatility introduced by Trae Young's acquisition extends beyond a formidable Big 3, providing the Pelicans with offensive depth. In the event of injuries, the team would boast multiple scoring options, mitigating the impact of individual absences and fostering a more adaptable offensive strategy.

Conversely, the Atlanta Hawks would receive C.J. McCollum, a seasoned guard with offensive prowess, Herb Jones, a promising defensive talent, and future draft assets. This trade aligns with Atlanta's roster needs, particularly with Dejounte Murray emerging as the primary ball handler and Jones contributing elite perimeter defense to support McCollum's offensive capabilities.

In essence, this proposed trade has the potential to redefine the trajectories of both franchises. It offers the Pelicans a dynamic offensive core and a pathway to contention while providing the Hawks with a more balanced roster and valuable draft assets for future maneuvers. The implications of such a move extend far beyond the individual player statistics, promising a reshaping of team dynamics and aspirations in the highly competitive landscape of the NBA.

Fadeaway World

I will happily pass on CJ.

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[Jamaaliver]

[jayu70]

I have been posting several versions of CC/Zubac since last season.
Bones is interesting, except he gives me some Reddish vibes in terms of not mastering the role he is given first but wanting more.

[RodyTur10]

I'm a Celtics fan, what would you reasonably give up for Jaylen Brown next summer?

[Jamaaliver]

I'm a Celtics fan, what would you reasonably give up for Jaylen Brown next summer?

At $60+ million annually, it would take half of our rotation players just to get close to that salary.

Hawks are unlikely to pay that much for a secondary star not named Trae Young.

You guys are better off pursuing Anthony Davis, KAT, Zion, LaMelo...

(And if you need a 3rd team for that, we might be of some use.)

[Jamaaliver]

Knicks' Quentin Grimes Could Still Help Hawks

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Michael Scotto of HoopsHype shed light on another non-Siakam trade target for the Hawks: New York Knicks guard Quentin Grimes.

“In years past, the Knicks shied away from including Grimes in trade talks with the Clippers for Paul George, the Bulls for Zach LaVine, the Jazz during Donovan Mitchell trade talks, and the Hawks, who also inquired about him,” Scotto wrote on November 29.

Grimes, 23, was the No. 25 overall pick of the draft in 2021. After a career year averaging 11.3 points on 61.9% true shooting in his second season, He is averaging 6.7 points on 53.5% true shooting this year. Grimes is a career 38.3% three-point shooter. He started 66 of 71 appearances last season and all 15 of his appearances this season. But his role was reduced following the Knicks’ trade for Josh Hart year.

The Hawks have added Dejoute Murray via trade and Kobe Bufkin via the draft to the backcourt in back-to-back offseasons. They also have veterans Bogdan Bogdanovic and Wesley Matthews and second-year prospect AJ Griffin coming off the bench on the wings, though the latter has struggled to maintain a consistent role under head coach Quin Snyder.

Murray has also been slumping while Bufkin is working his way back from a fractured thumb and the Hawks’ perimeter defense continues to be leaky.

Grimes’ ability as a defender and a floor spacer would...help with that, adding an element of toughness to the group as well.

Spoiler:

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It might make more sense to give Griffin a shot at proving he can overcome whatever is keeping him from showing the same effectiveness he did to start his career. But there is still room for Grimes and what he brings.

Hakws Fansided

[HMFFL]

Knicks' Quentin Grimes Could Still Help Hawks

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Michael Scotto of HoopsHype shed light on another non-Siakam trade target for the Hawks: New York Knicks guard Quentin Grimes.

“In years past, the Knicks shied away from including Grimes in trade talks with the Clippers for Paul George, the Bulls for Zach LaVine, the Jazz during Donovan Mitchell trade talks, and the Hawks, who also inquired about him,” Scotto wrote on November 29.

Grimes, 23, was the No. 25 overall pick of the draft in 2021. After a career year averaging 11.3 points on 61.9% true shooting in his second season, He is averaging 6.7 points on 53.5% true shooting this year. Grimes is a career 38.3% three-point shooter. He started 66 of 71 appearances last season and all 15 of his appearances this season. But his role was reduced following the Knicks’ trade for Josh Hart year.

The Hawks have added Dejoute Murray via trade and Kobe Bufkin via the draft to the backcourt in back-to-back offseasons. They also have veterans Bogdan Bogdanovic and Wesley Matthews and second-year prospect AJ Griffin coming off the bench on the wings, though the latter has struggled to maintain a consistent role under head coach Quin Snyder.

Murray has also been slumping while Bufkin is working his way back from a fractured thumb and the Hawks’ perimeter defense continues to be leaky.

Grimes’ ability as a defender and a floor spacer would...help with that, adding an element of toughness to the group as well.

Spoiler:

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It might make more sense to give Griffin a shot at proving he can overcome whatever is keeping him from showing the same effectiveness he did to start his career. But there is still room for Grimes and what he brings.

Hakws Fansided

The Knicks eventually told teams in the past that it will take a high first round pick for them to trade him. His value seems to be low at the moment. A sharp shooter that's not being utilized.

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[Jamaaliver]

Knicks' Quentin Grimes Could Still Help Hawks

Hakws Fansided

The Knicks eventually told teams in the past that it will take a high first round pick for them to trade him. His value seems to be low at the moment. A sharp shooter that's not being utilized.

This is the type of buy low deal that could look amazing 12-15 months from now.


More video of Quentin in action -- in better days.

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[winforlose]

Wolves fan here. I am wondering what you guys think of DM and OO for KAT?

The hawks get a 50/40/90 dynamic offensive player to pair with Jalen Johnson. KAT more than makes up for the production you lose in Murray. Moreover, KAT’s defense has been improving the past 3 years, and while he may not be elite, he is certainly capable of defending at the rim or in space.

DM becomes our PG of the future, OO either gets moved again or becomes our backup C if we move Naz Reid to the PF.

Feels like a win, win for both teams. If you agree the value is there.

[Jamaaliver]

Wolves fan here. I am wondering what you guys think of DM and OO for KAT?

Feels like a win, win for both teams. If you agree the value is there.

You're on to something.

Having a big/little combo of these two players would be great offensively, terrible defensively and a train wreck in the locker room.

But moving DeJounte Murray for an elite front court scorer does make sense. I'd probably prefer that Okongwu and Jalen Johnson be held out of this trade as they both pair really well alongside KAT.

But this is a solid proposition that's been mentioned here before -- in one variation or another.

[winforlose]

Wolves fan here. I am wondering what you guys think of DM and OO for KAT?

Feels like a win, win for both teams. If you agree the value is there.

You're on to something.

Having a big/little combo of these two players would be great offensively, terrible defensively and a train wreck in the locker room.

But moving DeJounte Murray for an elite front court scorer does make sense. I'd probably prefer that Okongwu and Jalen Johnson be held out of this trade as they both pair really well alongside KAT.

But this is a solid proposition that's been mentioned here before -- in one variation or another.

Assume the bones are KAT and Murray swap and that we don’t want Capella, (bad fit,) how would you modify this?

[Jamaaliver]

Assume the bones are KAT and Murray swap and that we don’t want Capella, (bad fit,) how would you modify this?

If we're adding KAT, we can probably move Hunter, Saddiq Bey, Capela, AJ Griffin and the Sacramento Kings 2024 Draft pick for value.

Wes Matthews and Patty Mills are available for salary matching.

Hawks would probably have interest in acquiring Kyle Anderson and/or NAW.

If we need to loop in a 3rd team, Lakers, Clippers, Kings and Golden State seem like options to reroute Hunter or Capela through.