2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas

HarthorneWingo · Post #441 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:49 pm

Randle, IQ, and a FRP for Mr. Injury? Hahaha. Dumb.

sol537 · Post #442 » by **sol537** » Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:38 pm

1) Randle + IQ + protected 1st for Zion
2) Fournier + two 2nd rounders for Gallo + Delon Wright

A younger, more balanced team. RJ + Zion + Grimes + Brunson core for the next 5+ years... not bad. Not bad at all.

Post #443 » by **dakomish23** » Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:41 pm

Watch on YouTube

Post #444 » by **duetta** » Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:46 pm

LaVine is the elite version of Fournier. That is precisely what we don't need.

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #445 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:00 pm

Let him go to Orlando, Charlotte or Toronto.

thebuzzardman · Post #446 » by **thebuzzardman** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:16 am

Not only would LaVine not be a good fit, wouldn't it be pretty difficult for the Knicks to put a trade together that doesn't include Randle or RJ?

Sure, the haters of either player might be into it, but the Knicks don't have a PF other than Randle, and I'm pretty sure the Bulls aren't including Williams just for fun, and while LaVine is a more prolific scorer than RJ, is it really worth it combined with his fairly ball dominant ways and less than stellar defense?

jvsimonetti0514 · Post #447 » by **jvsimonetti0514** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:53 am

robillionaire wrote:
KNICKS007 wrote:
sol537 wrote:
It looks like a Zion & Pels split is inevitable... probably within the next 8 -20 months, I'd wager.

Randle, IQ, rights to Rokas, and several picks for Zion + Herb Jones is a deal that could be win-win.

So Zions production is equal to Randle and IQ.. In fact Randle is having a better season, and if IQ was starter he would be too.

So how is this a win win, and don't forget Zions absolute injury concerns and the fact that's he's done nothing special for NO..

IQ is having a better season even without starting his ts% is higher and his PER is higher and his BPM is +5.7 and zions is -0.4 and all his stats are better

Genuinely hate how everyone tries to give quick away, when he’s awesome. People need to get it through their heads that duke zion is gone and is never coming back. He’s already lost a step or two from being injured all the time and that stuff doesn’t come back. Plus he’s probably going to get even fatter as he matures.

Jeffrey · Post #448 » by **Jeffrey** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:06 am

If not LaVine, I would be willing to trade for Derozan only because it is a rental. We still keep some assets for the star player we want...

Looking at the contracts, there's really no possible way for us to get Derozan without breaking up our core players.

B8RcDeMktfxC · Post #449 » by **B8RcDeMktfxC** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:31 am

thebuzzardman wrote:Not only would LaVine not be a good fit, wouldn't it be pretty difficult for the Knicks to put a trade together that doesn't include Randle or RJ?

Sure, the haters of either player might be into it, but the Knicks don't have a PF other than Randle, and I'm pretty sure the Bulls aren't including Williams just for fun, and while LaVine is a more prolific scorer than RJ, is it really worth it combined with his fairly ball dominant ways and less than stellar defense?

I think OKC is about to dump Poku. Could be the ideal backup to the Ju-Mitch FC. Thoughts?

thebuzzardman · Post #450 » by **thebuzzardman** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:06 am

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Not only would LaVine not be a good fit, wouldn't it be pretty difficult for the Knicks to put a trade together that doesn't include Randle or RJ?

Sure, the haters of either player might be into it, but the Knicks don't have a PF other than Randle, and I'm pretty sure the Bulls aren't including Williams just for fun, and while LaVine is a more prolific scorer than RJ, is it really worth it combined with his fairly ball dominant ways and less than stellar defense?

I think OKC is about to dump Poku. Could be the ideal backup to the Ju-Mitch FC. Thoughts?

Worth a flier

3toheadmelo · Post #451 » by **3toheadmelo** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:05 am

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Not only would LaVine not be a good fit, wouldn't it be pretty difficult for the Knicks to put a trade together that doesn't include Randle or RJ?

Sure, the haters of either player might be into it, but the Knicks don't have a PF other than Randle, and I'm pretty sure the Bulls aren't including Williams just for fun, and while LaVine is a more prolific scorer than RJ, is it really worth it combined with his fairly ball dominant ways and less than stellar defense?

I think OKC is about to dump Poku. Could be the ideal backup to the Ju-Mitch FC. Thoughts?

hell nah

Snacks · Post #452 » by **Snacks** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:31 am

It seems clear that a player on the Tier of Embiid or Luka is not going to be available anytime soon.
So I think we have to go with a pairing. I really like Spida and Lavine, but if we're serious about contending we need to match one of them up with OG. I think Lavine/OG lineup with a leader like Brunson may get us to the ECF...

Ma10 · Post #453 » by **Ma10** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:58 am

Lavine is not the type of player to get you anywhere. He is a really talented scorer. That's it, a modern versionof this guy!

Post #454 » by **duetta** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:05 am

LeVine wasn't producing wins in Chicago, despite all the help they brought in for him.

At the right price, sure, you consider it - but the right price is basically a salary dump (and besides Fournier, I don't even know how we possibly match up).

seren · Post #455 » by **seren** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:25 pm

Who is he an upgrade over? RJ? I don’t see the fit. Plus he is too expensive. Let Chicago dump that horrible contract on another team

Chanel Bomber · Post #456 » by **Chanel Bomber** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:34 pm

duetta wrote:LeVine wasn't producing wins in Chicago, despite all the help they brought in for him.

At the right price, sure, you consider it - but the right price is basically a salary dump (and besides Fournier, I don't even know how we possibly match up).

I think he's one of those players who needs specific teammates around him for his production to be impactful, i.e., another ball-handler who can defend to compensate for his lack of playmaking and defense.

No time for Chanel to go full Chanel with the google but weren't Chicago good with him and Lonzo in the backcourt?

Players in that mold - the Lonzos, the Jrues, the Lowrys - don't exactly grow on trees though, which makes it challenging to build with Lavine. Brunson obviously doesn't fit the archetype so the fit isn't there.

nykballa2k4 · Post #457 » by **nykballa2k4** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:26 pm

IF RJ was the same as last year, I would say Fournier+RJ for Lavine. IF this is New-RJ... we gotta be out of the market.

sol537 · Post #458 » by **sol537** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:00 pm

No to Lavine... No to KAT...

Snacks · Post #459 » by **Snacks** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:01 pm

Watch on YouTube

Is there such a player of whom he speaks?
Someone we can just add to this roster, who isn't necessarily a superstar, but has the ability to propel us to a chip.

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #460 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:11 pm

Snacks wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Is there such a player of whom he speaks?
Someone we can just add to this roster, who isn't necessarily a superstar, but has the ability to propel us to a chip.

It has to be a big wing, but the coach would still be an issue. If you're keeping this core together you upgrade the 2 spot by playing RJ there and putting a big wing like OG, Kawhi, PG etc at the 3. In the case of OG and Kawhi you'd have the size to play them at the 4 in a small ball lineups with Randle at the 5. That kind of lineup would actually be able to break the Heat zone and defend them on the other end.

You end up with more lineup versatility with a big wing.