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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#481 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:02 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:Worth a flier

Ok, so I agree that seems like a semi-troll-y idea. And I had had 1 glass of wine before I posted. However, I think there is some merit in this.

OKC now has Chet who is an all-around better version of Poku, so Poku has no playing time there and I think they will dump him for some minimal assets.

Nevertheless, Poku wasn´t bad last year. Shot 36.5% from 3pt. Does being-tall rebounds, blocks some shots, mainly on weakside-help ... so has some idea of what the game is about. Ok, so still built like a match-stick and not a good interior defender (ok-ish on the perimeter against bigs) and probably not going to make the jump to being genuinely good. Certainly, not on the KP trajectory, unfortunately, which was the hope. But it could give the Knicks some relief at 4/5 where there would be an outside threat. And if playing with either Mitch or Jules one wouldn´t have to have such great concerns about him being pushed about inside.

[edit, for like, doh, I thought but didn´t post] Lavine would be a terrible trade.


So, in essence Knicks trade for Euro-Obi? :D

A Euro-Obi who is 5 inches taller, can shoot the 3 and blocks shots simply by being tall is not nothing. Also, the kid has moves-like-Durant. In the here and now this is several times more useful than Obi. Maybe.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#482 » by ctorres » Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:24 pm

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:This all seem nuts to me. (not hitting on you specifically ctorres)

Mitch is a much better piece than LaVine. Isn't that clear? If he just implements the Korean-free-throw technique he's end-game playable,


I definitely don't see a trade happening with the Knicks, but if it did, it would take that many guys in the deal because of LaVine's high salary and all-star resume.

I would have said the Lakers, but after their win last night, I don't see them trading any guys among Hachimura, Russell, or Reaves for LaVine.

I was looking at other teams and I think he would make more sense going to either Detroit or Memphis, among others.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#483 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:25 pm

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It has to be a big wing, but the coach would still be an issue. If you're keeping this core together you upgrade the 2 spot by playing RJ there and putting a big wing like OG, Kawhi, PG etc at the 3. In the case of OG and Kawhi you'd have the size to play them at the 4 in a small ball lineups with Randle at the 5. That kind of lineup would actually be able to break the Heat zone and defend them on the other end.

You end up with more lineup versatility with a big wing.


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Grimes/Foreskinier/DropTheLawsuit and 2 FRPs for OG

Caucasian swap of iShart ( and 4 million in filler) + 1 FRP for Olynyk.

Knicks still with 3 FRPs to deal for some so called star, if they ever materialize for them, which one won't.

Knicks get a stretch 5
Knicks get a true sized 3 also capable of playing the 4
Olynyk can play 5 and 4, so trading two players who only play one position (Grimes is only a 2, iShart only a 5) gives the Knicks way more lineup flexibility.

That's not a terrible idea. A back-up FC with 3pt shooting seems like a ldo move. I think OG with Mitch would be great on D, I guess that's a little slim on offence, but ok. But why would Toronto make the trade?

Olynk for a FRP ... maybe they bite on that.


I doubt Toronto makes the trade, but they could use a guard and getting some picks they might want instead of losing OG for nothing in FA.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#484 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:10 pm

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B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Hai! Quote myself! (James Brown voice)


That's not a terrible idea. A back-up FC with 3pt shooting seems like a ldo move. I think OG with Mitch would be great on D, I guess that's a little slim on offence, but ok. But why would Toronto make the trade?

Olynk for a FRP ... maybe they bite on that.


I doubt Toronto makes the trade, but they could use a guard and getting some picks they might want instead of losing OG for nothing in FA.


It makes too much sense.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#485 » by dakomish23 » Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:51 pm

Was the B/R Lavine trade proposal posted yet?

The Deal: Zach LaVine for RJ Barrett, Evan Fournier, a 2024 first-round pick and a 2027 first-round pick

With a treasure trove of future assets and multiple movable contracts, the New York Knicks have looked like one of the league's top star-hunters for years.

They were in the mix for Donovan Mitchell during the 2022 offseason. When Joel Embiid trade rumors crept up this past summer, the Knicks found their way to that rumor mill, too.

But either one of those acquisitions would've cost New York most of its picks and prospects. LaVine, on the other hand, probably wouldn't.

It's already clear Evan Fournier isn't part of the team's plans. He wasn't in the rotation last season, and he's yet to play a minute in 2023-24. While there might still be some untapped potential for RJ Barrett, it's starting to feel him developing into the player LaVine is now would be a long shot, at best (and Barrett isn't good at long shots).

Over the course of his career, Barrett has been one of the game's least efficient scorers, and the Knicks have been better when he's off the floor.


Replacing him with LaVine's explosive scoring ability and outside shooting would open up the floor for the slashing of Jalen Brunson and Julius Randle and increase the team's chances of winning a second-round series.

For Chicago, this obviously fits with the rebuilding strategy laid out in the previous slide. The Bulls need an entirely new start, and getting multiple picks for DeRozan and LaVine would provide a good foundation for the rebuild.

If Barrett wound up living up to his draft position in Chicago, even better.


This is from TWO DAYS AGO. WTH :lol: Just another journalist who doesn't follow the team making dumb takes

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10096995-5-wild-nba-trade-ideas-that-could-actually-work
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#486 » by NoLayupRule » Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:09 am

i just dont see either DeRozen or Lavine being good fits on this team

they are both upgrades, sure, but not the right fits

derozen needs to hold the ball too much and doesnt really space the floor
lavine wont or cant play D and already didnt vibe with Thibs once before

I say we continue to be patient or be the 3rd team in a deal

Id take Tobias Harris off the 76s to facilitate a trade for them
say they want lavine id be happy to give away frenchie and a less valuable pick to get harris
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#487 » by G_K_F » Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:18 am

dakomish23 wrote:Was the B/R Lavine trade proposal posted yet?

The Deal: Zach LaVine for RJ Barrett, Evan Fournier, a 2024 first-round pick and a 2027 first-round pick

With a treasure trove of future assets and multiple movable contracts, the New York Knicks have looked like one of the league's top star-hunters for years.

They were in the mix for Donovan Mitchell during the 2022 offseason. When Joel Embiid trade rumors crept up this past summer, the Knicks found their way to that rumor mill, too.

But either one of those acquisitions would've cost New York most of its picks and prospects. LaVine, on the other hand, probably wouldn't.

It's already clear Evan Fournier isn't part of the team's plans. He wasn't in the rotation last season, and he's yet to play a minute in 2023-24. While there might still be some untapped potential for RJ Barrett, it's starting to feel him developing into the player LaVine is now would be a long shot, at best (and Barrett isn't good at long shots).

Over the course of his career, Barrett has been one of the game's least efficient scorers, and the Knicks have been better when he's off the floor.


Replacing him with LaVine's explosive scoring ability and outside shooting would open up the floor for the slashing of Jalen Brunson and Julius Randle and increase the team's chances of winning a second-round series.

For Chicago, this obviously fits with the rebuilding strategy laid out in the previous slide. The Bulls need an entirely new start, and getting multiple picks for DeRozan and LaVine would provide a good foundation for the rebuild.

If Barrett wound up living up to his draft position in Chicago, even better.


This is from TWO DAYS AGO. WTH :lol: Just another journalist who doesn't follow the team making dumb takes

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10096995-5-wild-nba-trade-ideas-that-could-actually-work

To be fair to the person who wrote the article, he’s using the last 4 seasons for reference - not 7 games of this season. Jury is still out on RJ but that window to show measurable progress is rapidly closing. He needs to continue to show something this season before he gets any respect from anyone.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#488 » by dakomish23 » Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:20 am

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dakomish23 wrote:Was the B/R Lavine trade proposal posted yet?

The Deal: Zach LaVine for RJ Barrett, Evan Fournier, a 2024 first-round pick and a 2027 first-round pick

With a treasure trove of future assets and multiple movable contracts, the New York Knicks have looked like one of the league's top star-hunters for years.

They were in the mix for Donovan Mitchell during the 2022 offseason. When Joel Embiid trade rumors crept up this past summer, the Knicks found their way to that rumor mill, too.

But either one of those acquisitions would've cost New York most of its picks and prospects. LaVine, on the other hand, probably wouldn't.

It's already clear Evan Fournier isn't part of the team's plans. He wasn't in the rotation last season, and he's yet to play a minute in 2023-24. While there might still be some untapped potential for RJ Barrett, it's starting to feel him developing into the player LaVine is now would be a long shot, at best (and Barrett isn't good at long shots).

Over the course of his career, Barrett has been one of the game's least efficient scorers, and the Knicks have been better when he's off the floor.


Replacing him with LaVine's explosive scoring ability and outside shooting would open up the floor for the slashing of Jalen Brunson and Julius Randle and increase the team's chances of winning a second-round series.

For Chicago, this obviously fits with the rebuilding strategy laid out in the previous slide. The Bulls need an entirely new start, and getting multiple picks for DeRozan and LaVine would provide a good foundation for the rebuild.

If Barrett wound up living up to his draft position in Chicago, even better.


This is from TWO DAYS AGO. WTH :lol: Just another journalist who doesn't follow the team making dumb takes

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10096995-5-wild-nba-trade-ideas-that-could-actually-work

To be fair to the person who wrote the article, he’s using the last 4 seasons for reference - not 7 games of this season. Jury is still out on RJ but that window to show measurable progress is rapidly closing. He needs to continue to show something this season before he gets any respect from anyone.


He’s also ignoring the playoffs where RJ was one our best players
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#489 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:42 am

Get OG in here
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#490 » by aggo » Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:46 am

thebuzzardman wrote:Get OG in here

Our team is full of mids

Please stop
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Post#491 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:49 am

aggo wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Get OG in here

Our team is full of mids

Please stop


They can trade some of the mids for a mid that fits better
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#492 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:59 am

aggo wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Get OG in here

Our team is full of mids

Please stop


Your posting history is full of mids.

Please stop!

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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#493 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:02 am

dakomish23 wrote:
Hes_On_Fire wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:Was the B/R Lavine trade proposal posted yet?



This is from TWO DAYS AGO. WTH :lol: Just another journalist who doesn't follow the team making dumb takes

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10096995-5-wild-nba-trade-ideas-that-could-actually-work

To be fair to the person who wrote the article, he’s using the last 4 seasons for reference - not 7 games of this season. Jury is still out on RJ but that window to show measurable progress is rapidly closing. He needs to continue to show something this season before he gets any respect from anyone.


He’s also ignoring the playoffs where RJ was one our best players


B/R is trash. This trade idea is one of the worst ever.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#494 » by aggo » Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:08 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
aggo wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Get OG in here

Our team is full of mids

Please stop


Your posting history is full of mids.

Please stop!

:lol:


Ur brain is mid
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#495 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:10 am

aggo wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
aggo wrote:Our team is full of mids

Please stop


Your posting history is full of mids.

Please stop!

:lol:


Ur brain is mid


So's your face!
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Post#496 » by Oscirus » Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:19 am

Even if that was last season's rowan that's an asnine trade. In what world is lavine worth a starter two unprotected picks and a possible rotational player
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Post#497 » by NYKnickerbocker » Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:32 am

Lakers are getting clapped, but cam looks good in his role over there
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#498 » by KnickswayGene » Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:49 am

Randle Quickley 3 first rd picks 1 protected for zion and Jose. If things in no completely fall apart.
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Post#499 » by aggo » Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:55 am

We need spacing. Go get kat

Or go get Zion
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#500 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:27 am

Oscirus wrote:Even if that was last season's rowan that's an asnine trade. In what world is lavine worth a starter two unprotected picks and a possible rotational player


None. He's not even worth his contract.
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