Shorthanded Celtics Make Philly Look Silly! VC vs PHI 11/15

[BrianFitz]

There ought to be a Tony Delk award for players like Maxey who score 50 in a game and never come close to doing it again.
For the record, Chamberlain scored 50+ 113 times during his career. That is one of the few records that will never be broken.

I actually think Maxey is really good. On offense at least. Boston is a hellish matchup problem for him. He's infinitely better than Delk, or Dana Barros who I believe dropped 50 in a game as well? Maxey is clearly on an all-star career arc.

[BrianFitz]

There ought to be a Tony Delk award for players like Maxey who score 50 in a game and never come close to doing it again.
For the record, Chamberlain scored 50+ 113 times during his career. That is one of the few records that will never be broken.

Maxey is definitely going to score 50 again.

If not 50, he'll for sure be an all-star for a few years. He's legit.

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[shackles10]

I need banton to dunk more because even in preseason he got to the bucket easily but always missed the easy layup. could give us more minutes if he could. still not into him but he was good tonight outside of shots made.

Like PP/Hauser and their shooting I think Banton would just need reps. I don't know if he'll get them, but if he did I trust he could make some layups. He does the hard part in getting to the rim. I liked his minutes out there for the most part last night. The bench overall was really solid last night (including the guys normally on the bench who were actually starters last night).

[Hal14]

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[Hal14]

I need banton to dunk more because even in preseason he got to the bucket easily but always missed the easy layup. could give us more minutes if he could. still not into him but he was good tonight outside of shots made.

Like PP/Hauser and their shooting I think Banton would just need reps. I don't know if he'll get them, but if he did I trust he could make some layups. He does the hard part in getting to the rim. I liked his minutes out there for the most part last night. The bench overall was really solid last night (including the guys normally on the bench who were actually starters last night).

I feel like (in preseason and in the limited games he's played so far in reg season, and also looking at summer league a little bit) he typically does a good job of finishing around the rim. He had the missed layup last night but for the most part I feel like he makes them so it's not an issue.

My only real questions with Banton are:
a) can he improve the outside shot? If so, watch out, he could be a legit rotation piece for us
b) I want to see him play with more aggressiveness/confidence more often. When he does, he can really be a difference maker. But when he doesn't, that's when either he doesn't make a difference out there or we see him make silly turnovers or miss shots

[shackles10]

I need banton to dunk more because even in preseason he got to the bucket easily but always missed the easy layup. could give us more minutes if he could. still not into him but he was good tonight outside of shots made.

Like PP/Hauser and their shooting I think Banton would just need reps. I don't know if he'll get them, but if he did I trust he could make some layups. He does the hard part in getting to the rim. I liked his minutes out there for the most part last night. The bench overall was really solid last night (including the guys normally on the bench who were actually starters last night).

I feel like (in preseason and in the limited games he's played so far in reg season, and also looking at summer league a little bit) he typically does a good job of finishing around the rim. He had the missed layup last night but for the most part I feel like he makes them so it's not an issue.

My only real questions with Banton are:
a) can he improve the outside shot? If so, watch out, he could be a legit rotation piece for us
b) I want to see him play with more aggressiveness/confidence more often. When he does, he can really be a difference maker. But when he doesn't, that's when either he doesn't make a difference out there or we see him make silly turnovers or miss shots

Idk if he'll improve his shot this year, but if he can cut, drive, crash the glass, handle the ball, and distribute on offense he could carve out a role at least when we are shorthanded. Without the shot it'll be harder to do some of those things as they'll just sag off him, but none of our bench guys are that well rounded and mostly specialists too. Defensively I can see his value too, so for right now I'm hoping he can just be a good fill-in when starters or bench players ahead of him are out.

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There ought to be a Tony Delk award for players like Maxey who score 50 in a game and never come close to doing it again.
For the record, Chamberlain scored 50+ 113 times during his career. That is one of the few records that will never be broken.

I actually think Maxey is really good. On offense at least. Boston is a hellish matchup problem for him. He's infinitely better than Delk, or Dana Barros who I believe dropped 50 in a game as well? Maxey is clearly on an all-star career arc.

Dana Barros made an All-Star team, while playing for the Sixers, no less!
Then he signed with his hometown Boston Celtics, and his career tapered off/he got hurt, but he played 14 years in the league and scored almost 9k points https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/barroda01.html

I get that you're saying Maxey is on a trajectory above Dana's, and much as I loved Barros I won't disagree.

[31to6]

Like PP/Hauser and their shooting I think Banton would just need reps. I don't know if he'll get them, but if he did I trust he could make some layups. He does the hard part in getting to the rim. I liked his minutes out there for the most part last night. The bench overall was really solid last night (including the guys normally on the bench who were actually starters last night).

I feel like (in preseason and in the limited games he's played so far in reg season, and also looking at summer league a little bit) he typically does a good job of finishing around the rim. He had the missed layup last night but for the most part I feel like he makes them so it's not an issue.

My only real questions with Banton are:
a) can he improve the outside shot? If so, watch out, he could be a legit rotation piece for us
b) I want to see him play with more aggressiveness/confidence more often. When he does, he can really be a difference maker. But when he doesn't, that's when either he doesn't make a difference out there or we see him make silly turnovers or miss shots

Idk if he'll improve his shot this year, but if he can cut, drive, crash the glass, handle the ball, and distribute on offense he could carve out a role at least when we are shorthanded. Without the shot it'll be harder to do some of those things as they'll just sag off him, but none of our bench guys are that well rounded and mostly specialists too. Defensively I can see his value too, so for right now I'm hoping he can just be a good fill-in when starters or bench players ahead of him are out.

I've been all of the map regarding if I think Banton will develop into anything, but want to see him get a chance to do so here -- even if it's super gradually. He's smooth out there, when playing (as Hal says) with confidence.

But the best thing he can do right now is develop a maniacal need to get loose balls. There was the pre-season game where Joe pulled him moments into the second half for not getting on the floor for a loose ball, and last night there was a loose ball floating in front of him in the defensive lane, and he didn't really move towards it, and PHI got it -- I don't know how you inject someone with that fire that that loose ball is yours (somehow they did it with Nesmith), but that's what I'd love to see from him. Then develop his silky smooth all-around game, and that knuckleball jumper too.

[Curmudgeon]

Havlicek dropped over 28K career points and never scored 50 in a game.

[BrianFitz]

There ought to be a Tony Delk award for players like Maxey who score 50 in a game and never come close to doing it again.
For the record, Chamberlain scored 50+ 113 times during his career. That is one of the few records that will never be broken.

I actually think Maxey is really good. On offense at least. Boston is a hellish matchup problem for him. He's infinitely better than Delk, or Dana Barros who I believe dropped 50 in a game as well? Maxey is clearly on an all-star career arc.

Dana Barros made an All-Star team, while playing for the Sixers, no less!
Then he signed with his hometown Boston Celtics, and his career tapered off/he got hurt, but he played 14 years in the league and scored almost 9k points https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/barroda01.html

I get that you're saying Maxey is on a trajectory above Dana's, and much as I loved Barros I won't disagree.

Yeah man, I guess I didn't write that correctly. I loved Dana. I remember him having the longest streak at the time for most games with at least one three. And If I remember correctly it was the Knicks who went all out at the end of a game that was already pretty much over, making sure he couldn't keep the streak going.

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There ought to be a Tony Delk award for players like Maxey who score 50 in a game and never come close to doing it again.
For the record, Chamberlain scored 50+ 113 times during his career. That is one of the few records that will never be broken.

I actually think Maxey is really good. On offense at least. Boston is a hellish matchup problem for him. He's infinitely better than Delk, or Dana Barros who I believe dropped 50 in a game as well? Maxey is clearly on an all-star career arc.

Dana Barros made an All-Star team, while playing for the Sixers, no less!
Then he signed with his hometown Boston Celtics, and his career tapered off/he got hurt, but he played 14 years in the league and scored almost 9k points https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/barroda01.html

I get that you're saying Maxey is on a trajectory above Dana's, and much as I loved Barros I won't disagree.

Crazy thing about Maxey is how little he turns the ball over. Could have attributed it in the past to Harden doing the ball handling but Maxey's assist rate has skyrocketed and his turnovers (which were already minuscule) went down further.

Biggest concern I see with him (beyond the standard regression from an unsustainable hot streak) is getting burned out. 6'2" and 200 lbs and he's averaging 38 minutes per night while assisting/scoring on over half of their possessions.

[sam_I_am]

I actually think Maxey is really good. On offense at least. Boston is a hellish matchup problem for him. He's infinitely better than Delk, or Dana Barros who I believe dropped 50 in a game as well? Maxey is clearly on an all-star career arc.

Dana Barros made an All-Star team, while playing for the Sixers, no less!
Then he signed with his hometown Boston Celtics, and his career tapered off/he got hurt, but he played 14 years in the league and scored almost 9k points https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/barroda01.html

I get that you're saying Maxey is on a trajectory above Dana's, and much as I loved Barros I won't disagree.

Crazy thing about Maxey is how little he turns the ball over. Could have attributed it in the past to Harden doing the ball handling but Maxey's assist rate has skyrocketed and his turnovers (which were already minuscule) went down further.

Biggest concern I see with him (beyond the standard regression from an unsustainable hot streak) is getting burned out. 6'2" and 200 lbs and he's averaging 38 minutes per night while assisting/scoring on over half of their possessions.

Paul Pierce compared him to Gilbert Arenas a guy who had many games with 50+ points. Maxey isn’t quite as big but I can see similarity. Maxey, unlike Arenas, seems like an ideal teammate.

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[ConstableGeneva]

Using Kornet to break the zone was not in my early season Celtics offense bingo card.

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[bisme37]

Great comment from a Sixers fan: "Al Horford is gonna be stripping Joel from his wheelchair."

[ConstableGeneva]

Havlicek dropped over 28K career points and never scored 50 in a game.

Speaks to his durability, longevity, and consistency. Predates three-point line which makes it even more impressive.

Not a hot take... Tatum has a chance to surpass Hondo's scoring record if he can stay healthy and remains a Celtic.

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Simply awesome D by Big Al.

[exculpatory]

Havlicek dropped over TWENTY SIX THOUSAND NOT 28K career points and never scored 50 in a game.

Speaks to his durability, longevity, and consistency. Predates three-point line which makes it even more impressive.

Not a hot take... Tatum has a chance to surpass Hondo's scoring record if he can stay healthy and remains a Celtic.

ALL TIME NBA

17 Paul Pierce 26397 (including 2 y w Nets & Wiz where he was still excellent & 2 wasted y w Clips)
18 John Havlicek 26395