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Beating the Raps Is Always In Season! Tournament Victory Cigar vs TOR 11/17

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Who smokes the big cigar?

Tatum
1
1%
Brown
50
38%
KP
24
18%
Jrue
14
11%
White
25
19%
Horford
7
5%
Hauser
2
2%
Pritchard
1
1%
Other/Coach/Team
6
5%
 
Total votes: 130

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Re: Beating the Raps Is Always In Season! Tournament Victory Cigar vs TOR 11/17 

Post#41 » by fallguy » Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:54 am

lon3lytoaster wrote:Didn’t like the collapse, maybe they would have won last year but I’d have my doubts. Closed well. Was a good idea to get the ball to Porzingis late, and letting Jrue play make.

Tatum did nothing but settle 90% of the night. That was disappointing. Law of averages I guess.


He was barely interested half the night.
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Post#42 » by Parliament10 » Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:54 am

Green89 wrote:
KillahGhostface wrote:Great win.

That court a joke.

Tatum was shooting like Andre Roberson.


I thought the players and Joe should have been more vocal about the floor slips. It was going on all game, you just knew something bad could happen.

The NBA need to abandon these Floors. The NBPA should step up and say something.
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Post#43 » by Green89 » Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:54 am

Jammer wrote:This was a clear Team Effort. Puffs to Kristaps, Jaylen, Al, Sam, Jrue & Derrick. Too bad Tatum just keeps shooting 3's instead of working inside the line. Tatum could have made this one a lot easier if he moved in closer to the basket instead of 1-11 from 3.

An alternative perspective:

Pts. + Rebounds + (0.5 x Assists) + Steals + (0.5 x Blocks) - Missed FGs - (0.5 x Missed Free Throws) - Turnovers - (0.5 x Fouls)

+20.5 Kristaps Porzingis (35 minutes)
+20 Jaylen Brown (36 minutes)


+14.5 Al Horford (23 minutes)
+13.5 Sam Hauser (17 minutes)

+13.5 Jrue Holiday (35 minutes)
+12 Derrick White (34 minutes)

+7.5 Jayson Tatum (37 minutes)
+5 Payton Pritchard (17 minutes)

Team Total = 106.5


Jammer, has JT ever been this low on your board?
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Post#44 » by SLCceltic » Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:55 am

PPs struggles are BEYOND frustrating WTH
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Post#45 » by tfmiii » Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:55 am

bisme37 wrote:Dang you guys that was a nail biter! But we got out of Canadia with a win! BECAUSE WE TOO GOOD!!

I'm not prepared to say anything intelligent right now lol! Celtics had a fight on their hands but stayed tough and composed down the stretch. Good game from JB and we sealed the win with a huge 3 from Derrick!

Celts improve to 10-2 on the season and 2-0 in Tournament group play.

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Post#46 » by BK_2020 » Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:56 am

Should we get Davion Mitchell for Pritchard? He's out of the rotation now in Sacto. He kinda sucks but he's got to be better than Pritchard.
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Post#47 » by Fierce1 » Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:56 am

BK_2020 wrote:
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BK_2020 wrote:Also, we can't just say they would've lost X game last season after every single close game lol. That team won 70% of their games.

Cs would've won 60 games if they didn't lose games that they shouldn't have.

Perfect example is Grant at the FT line with no time left and the score was tied.
All Grant had to do was make one and the Cs would've won.
But he missed both!

There were lots of games the Cs lost last season because of incompetence.

It is true we were really bad in close games and OT games in 2022-23, but we didn't lose them all lol.

True.

Not saying we lost all, but it was a lot.

Cs could've won 62 games last season.
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Post#48 » by Celts17Pride » Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:56 am

Gant wrote:Brown slipped three times in the first half, more than anyone else. I was muttering then that he should change sneakers at halftime. That didn't look good. I hope he's ok.

Flynn almost killed himself in the 1st half slipping on the floor. Changing sneakers would help but it’s those gimmick floors
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Post#49 » by Jammer » Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:57 am

Green89 wrote:
Jammer wrote:This was a clear Team Effort. Puffs to Kristaps, Jaylen, Al, Sam, Jrue & Derrick. Too bad Tatum just keeps shooting 3's instead of working inside the line. Tatum could have made this one a lot easier if he moved in closer to the basket instead of 1-11 from 3.

An alternative perspective:

Pts. + Rebounds + (0.5 x Assists) + Steals + (0.5 x Blocks) - Missed FGs - (0.5 x Missed Free Throws) - Turnovers - (0.5 x Fouls)

+20.5 Kristaps Porzingis (35 minutes)
+20 Jaylen Brown (36 minutes)


+14.5 Al Horford (23 minutes)
+13.5 Sam Hauser (17 minutes)

+13.5 Jrue Holiday (35 minutes)
+12 Derrick White (34 minutes)

+7.5 Jayson Tatum (37 minutes)
+5 Payton Pritchard (17 minutes)

Team Total = 106.5


Jammer, has JT ever been this low on your board?


Yeah, he had like a +3 last season, and I think another game he was like +5. It's usually when he has a horrid shooting game (3-19 or so will do it) and has turnovers and not a lot of assists. Tonight Tatum's line was:

1-11 From 3, 7-11 from 2, no Free Throws, 7 Rebounds, 2 Assists, 1 Steal, 3 Turnovers, 3 Fouls

My position is that he should have realized that around 1-6 from 3 and worked inside the line the rest of the game. He might have even gotten to the line.
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Post#50 » by BK_2020 » Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:59 am

Jammer wrote:
Green89 wrote:
Jammer wrote:This was a clear Team Effort. Puffs to Kristaps, Jaylen, Al, Sam, Jrue & Derrick. Too bad Tatum just keeps shooting 3's instead of working inside the line. Tatum could have made this one a lot easier if he moved in closer to the basket instead of 1-11 from 3.

An alternative perspective:

Pts. + Rebounds + (0.5 x Assists) + Steals + (0.5 x Blocks) - Missed FGs - (0.5 x Missed Free Throws) - Turnovers - (0.5 x Fouls)

+20.5 Kristaps Porzingis (35 minutes)
+20 Jaylen Brown (36 minutes)


+14.5 Al Horford (23 minutes)
+13.5 Sam Hauser (17 minutes)

+13.5 Jrue Holiday (35 minutes)
+12 Derrick White (34 minutes)

+7.5 Jayson Tatum (37 minutes)
+5 Payton Pritchard (17 minutes)

Team Total = 106.5


Jammer, has JT ever been this low on your board?


Yeah, he had like a +3 last season, and I think another game he was like +5. It's usually when he has a horrid shooting game (3-19 or so will do it) and has turnovers and not a lot of assists. Tonight Tatum's line was:

1-11 From 3, 7-11 from 2, no Free Throws, 7 Rebounds, 2 Assists, 1 Steal, 3 Turnovers, 3 Fouls

My position is that he should have realized that around 1-6 from 3 and worked inside the line the rest of the game. He might have even gotten to the line.

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Post#51 » by Shak_Celts » Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:59 am

Tatumfor2 wrote:That didn't look good for JB. Damn.

hope for a quick recovery but happy we are so deep! jb was sliding all game. too much paint on these courts. i have watched most of the games, people have slipped but jb has done it the most, needs cleats or something.
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Post#53 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:01 am

Outplayed in the second half until the last minute or two.
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Post#55 » by Shak_Celts » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:01 am

SLCceltic wrote:PPs struggles are BEYOND frustrating WTH

the crazy thing is he isn't playing poorly. he needs to hit those shots though, especially when things buckle down in the playoffs, he's going to get targeted, and his offense has to be an offset.
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Post#57 » by Shak_Celts » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:04 am

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bisme37 wrote:Dang you guys that was a nail biter! But we got out of Canadia with a win! BECAUSE WE TOO GOOD!!

I'm not prepared to say anything intelligent right now lol! Celtics had a fight on their hands but stayed tough and composed down the stretch. Good game from JB and we sealed the win with a huge 3 from Derrick!

Celts improve to 10-2 on the season and 2-0 in Tournament group play.

Grizzlies Sunday, Go C's!

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joe needs to tell them to remember sam. i'd have to look again to see how many moments he was missed for shots but i don't remember him being noticeably open much. maybe Toronto changed up D on him?
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Post#59 » by VeryMuchWoke » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:06 am

According to Joe in the press conference, JB is fine.
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