Celts Win The Bucking Game! Victory Cigar vs MIL 11/22

[zoyathedestroya]

FUN FACT: The last time Giannis won in Boston (in the regular season), the Bucks still employed Malcolm Brogdon and the Celtics started Semi Ojeleye.

[zoyathedestroya]

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Kornet went wild.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Obviously a good win against a solid Milwaukee team. I don't think Boston wins this game last year so that's a plus

Not going to lie though I don't love how Boston keeps blowing huge leads and eventually they need to figure out how to stop that.

[radcot]

Back in the day - and I mean WAY back - having 7 players in double figures was the measure for the balanced offense the Celtics wanted to play. It doesn't happen much anymore, but it was nice to see.

[zoyathedestroya]

Obviously a good win against a solid Milwaukee team. I don't think Boston wins this game last year so that's a plus

Not going to lie though I don't love how Boston keeps blowing huge leads and eventually they need to figure out how to stop that.

Yep, last night it was a combo of Jrue/JB/JT taking out their DIY kit (before Joe's timeout), untimely White turnover + KP unnecessary tech, and inability to stop Lillard.

We find innovative ways of losing leads can't help but be impressed (unless we lose then I'm furious).

[zoyathedestroya]

About last night...



Jrue needs to get his ****/shot together on offense. Doesn't hurt as much when the other four starters are cooking. JT excused with the flu. Didn't even need JB in the high-20s usage to get the best game out of him.

[BK_2020]

So this is how the lead was actually lost. It wasn't our offense grinding down to a halt because we slow the game down or whatever, or not running actions. The Bucks just ended up getting ridiculously hot on offense, scoring nearly every time down. But our offensive execution was good, just not perfect.

Back to when the lead was 14 with 4.5 mins left.

Tatum draws a triple team, decides to shoot it. Probably got fouled by Lopez then Lopez stomped him as he lay on the floor. Lopez scores on an offensive rebound after punching White out of the way. There's now 4 mins left.

Curl off a DHO for Jaylen. Everybody standing around. Jaylen takes a tough stepthrough runner although he's got Beasley on him. Miss. Then on the other end Dame walks right past Jaylen for a layup.

Nice action using Jaylen curl as a decoy. Porzingis makes a wide open three.
https://streamable.com/ahfazi
Horford drops way back on Dame/Giannis pnr on the other end. Dame make a three. The Bucks have now scored on 3 consecutive possessions.

Jaylen curl again. Generates an open three for Tatum. Air ball. Lopez miss. Giannis rebounds, miss.

With 2:21 left and up 10, Jaylen sees a one vs three opportunity and bricks a layup. Giannis bricks a layup on the other end. These 2 possessions take up just 10 seconds.

KP mismatched with Lillard but Lillard punches him out of the way on the entry pass and gets a steal. Tech for KP. Down 9.
https://streamable.com/j6tjsz
Dame gets right by Tatum on the other end for layup.

Tatum dunk. Should've been an And1. Giannis draws 2 and Middleton hits a 3.

This possession is one of those where I think Jaylen does the right thing in the end but just too late.
https://streamable.com/05bijl
He's staring Giannis down in the paint from a dead stop. Realistically there's zero chance he will score and the swing pass should've been made immediately, not 1.5 seconds after the catch. That way Jrue would've had an open catch and shoot corner three instead of a step-back from the break. Anyways a brick. Dame hits a tough stepback on Jaylen on the other end. It's now a 1 possession game. The Bucks have scored like 15 points on 8 possessions.

Tatum ISO on Middleton which is frankly one of the better plays. Foul and 1 of 2 free throws. Dame blocked by the rim and that's game.

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Kornet went wild.

Like they are back at Sam’s wedding.

[BK_2020]

Dame lucky Hauser wasn't playing the last five minutes.

https://streamable.com/xh5idn

[shackles10]

I guess I'm the only one who thought the 4th wasn't as bad as the points made it seem. We we were up 16 until about 7ms left, against the Bucks. Dame did Dame things and Lopez was just taller than the guys near the bucket. The momentum didn't change on the Porzi tech (didn't help), I thought Jrue didn't help it when he challenged Lopez and Giannis (i think) and wasn't near getting a bucket, then it changed when Lopez got his tech, IIRC. I thought it was those 3 moments combined that weren't good, but Porzi Tech was the least of it IMO.

Lopez should have gotten a tech but didn’t lol

[Curmudgeon]

I thought Tatum was better defensively and on the boards (11 rebounds) than Brown, who got burned 3-4 times for being out of position. So I would rate their value in this game as about equal.

[Celts17Pride]

Joe has to trust some of the other bench guys or Brad needs to bring in vets that Joe will play. We can't go most games with this 8-man rotation or these guys will be gassed come postseason.

This is my biggest concern. It’s a longggggggggg season. Need to get others involved or Joe is going to run the Top 6 into the ground.

A lot of coaches do this for the first 20 games to build an identity and get off to a good start. Pretty soon Joe has to get others involved

[Green89]

Dame lucky Hauser wasn't playing the last five minutes.

https://streamable.com/xh5idn

I think we'd see a real step forward with Joe when he does something like sit Holiday for Hauser to end a game. If Holiday doesn't have it, and Sam was hot, you should play the hot hand and not worry about ego. In one of our losses this year, Sam had been 3/6 from deep and we were down 3 at the very end of regulation. Joe never put Hauser in the game. A top coach would have and played the best lineup to gain a win, not just play the "standard, must have in the game to stroke egos" lineup.

Joe kept White out way too much last season in the playoffs at crunch time, when he was one of our top net rating guys. Strategy, numbers, and flow of the game should trump the normal lineup.

[Fierce1]

Joe has to trust some of the other bench guys or Brad needs to bring in vets that Joe will play. We can't go most games with this 8-man rotation or these guys will be gassed come postseason.

This is my biggest concern. It’s a longggggggggg season. Need to get others involved or Joe is going to run the Top 6 into the ground.

A lot of coaches do this for the first 20 games to build an identity and get off to a good start. Pretty soon Joe has to get others involved

Celtics are young and only Jrue is above 30 years old.

Minutes will not be a problem.

If JT and JB are 34 years old then limiting their minutes should be a priority.
But they're young, let them have their stats.

[brackdan70]

I am not to worried about the 8 man rotation in the regular season. Aside from Jrue and Horford it’s a very young team. Also Kornet has played in 10 games averaging over 12 minutes and Brisset in 7 averaging 12 minutes. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Walsh and Davison logging some meaningful minutes later in the season. Would I like to have one more proven guy on the bench. Yep for sure. But we ok!

[playa-hater]

I like the 8 man rotation but we do need 9 this early in the season. Not just for keeping our main 6 fresher, but we need one more acclimated with the regulars should any of our top 8 miss a game. Of course, that will happen. every backup we have has a different skillset. So depending on who misses time can affect who comes in. But I'd rather have a player that can play multiple positions (3) Be good on defense while being able to shoot and pass. With that said only our youngster qualifies for me. JORDAN WALSH.

And I don't think Walsh being my "binky" is clouding my decision.

Walsh can play at any of the 2-3-4 type positions. No one else can really do that.

Walsh > SVI .. Walsh better at everything except shooting.

Walsh > Banton.. Baton and Walsh similar perhaps on defense but shooting/spacing/ and possibly scoring edge seems to be Walsh.

Walsh > Stevens and Brisett. similar defense but solid edge in shooting scoring potential.

Kornet should play minus Al or KP.

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[JaMarco]

I like the 8 man rotation but we do need 9 this early in the season. Not just for keeping our main 6 fresher, but we need one more acclimated with the regulars should any of our top 8 miss a game. Of course, that will happen. every backup we have has a different skillset. So depending on who misses time can affect who comes in. But I'd rather have a player that can play multiple positions (3) Be good on defense while being able to shoot and pass. With that said only our youngster qualifies for me. JORDAN WALSH.

And I don't think Walsh being my "binky" is clouding my decision.

Walsh can play at any of the 2-3-4 type positions. No one else can really do that.

Walsh > SVI .. Walsh better at everything except shooting.

Walsh > Banton.. Baton and Walsh similar perhaps on defense but shooting/spacing/ and possibly scoring edge seems to be Walsh.

Walsh > Stevens and Brisett. similar defense but solid edge in shooting scoring potential.

Kornet should play minus Al or KP.

Walsh not being able to shoot more or less disqualifies him from being in Mazulla's rotation. Mazulla clearly DOES NOT like playing players that can't shoot the 3. And I understand why, it really screws up the flow of their offense.

[Bad-Thoma]

So the Celtic's have still had the 5th most difficult schedule to start and are about to face the 10-5 Orlando Magic. Pretty impressive start though sometimes I trust this team to win against good teams more than I do against bad teams. The Timberwolves have had the 3rd most difficult schedule to start and are 11-3, I wouldn't have put money on that.

[playa-hater]

I like the 8 man rotation but we do need 9 this early in the season. Not just for keeping our main 6 fresher, but we need one more acclimated with the regulars should any of our top 8 miss a game. Of course, that will happen. every backup we have has a different skillset. So depending on who misses time can affect who comes in. But I'd rather have a player that can play multiple positions (3) Be good on defense while being able to shoot and pass. With that said only our youngster qualifies for me. JORDAN WALSH.

And I don't think Walsh being my "binky" is clouding my decision.

Walsh can play at any of the 2-3-4 type positions. No one else can really do that.

Walsh > SVI .. Walsh better at everything except shooting.

Walsh > Banton.. Baton and Walsh similar perhaps on defense but shooting/spacing/ and possibly scoring edge seems to be Walsh.

Walsh > Stevens and Brisett. similar defense but solid edge in shooting scoring potential.

Kornet should play minus Al or KP.

Walsh not being able to shoot more or less disqualifies him from being in Mazulla's rotation. Mazulla clearly DOES NOT like playing players that can't shoot the 3. And I understand why, it really screws up the flow of their offense.

Well for the better or the worse Walsh's sample size is still small.. But just looking at his mechanics and his stroke. I do believe he has real shooting potential.. Is certainly as good or better than Brissett or stevens..