Safe to say, Chet "Hologram" Holgrem > Paolo Banchero

[tooler]

I think both are better than I expected personally, and I really wish we could appreciate both, without the constant need to compare them

I think things will settle down next year. I'm surprised how relatively quiet the discussion is around the 3rd year players after the dogfight in the GB last season. People seem content to let the players develop in peace now. Maybe because there are exciting new comparisons they have to form an opinion on!

[Creativetran]

It’s a serious pet peeve of mine when people can’t spell players names correctly… anyways I think the OP is correct.

Holmgren does virtually everything better than Paolo, besides having an NBA body I guess

You forgot the big one, which is the Hugh just knock on Chet, staying healthy. Did you not forget he missed a whole freaking year already??

[tooler]

Yup, I was surprised Magic didn't pick Holmgren.

i’m not, magic haven’t had a go to scorer since what maybe TMac?!

That's why it was a surprise!

The sad thing is we've lacked both a go-to scorer and a defensive anchor at center for over a decade now. Heck, we're really excited about Goga Bitadze at center.

That's the trouble with consistently poor roster construction from a weak front office and overall organization. They really needed both Paolo and Chet but they could only draft one. Poverty is tough.

[jonbob17]

I'd say at the time of the draft Chet was probably the highest ceiling prospect in the draft, by most i would think. The concern was could his unique blend of size, athleticism, and skill sets translate to the NBA, and most importantly could he stay on the court.

Ultimately this debate will settled by production on the court. 86 games vs 14 so far, and while Paolo has shown a lot more as a pro than many expected, yah it will be tough to out do Chet should his injury last year be a blip in his career....it's the body size archetype Chet has going against him that gives people worry.

[tooler]

I'd say at the time of the draft Chet was probably the highest ceiling prospect in the draft, by most i would think. The concern was could his unique blend of size, athleticism, and skill sets translate to the NBA, and most importantly could he stay on the court.

Ultimately this debate will settled by production on the court. 86 games vs 14 so far, and while Paolo has shown a lot more as a pro than many expected, yah it will be tough to out do Chet should his injury last year be a blip in his career....it's the body size archetype Chet has going against him that gives people worry.

That was the other big surprise. This front office loves high-upside injury risks!

[jonbob17]

Watching Chet play again tonight and his efficiency is just nuts, lol. Very impressive player. Regardless of however you feel about either Paolo or Chet, I bet Magic and Thunder fans are just happy neither one of them drafted Jabari Smith. I like Jabari, but he would have been a colossal mistake over either of them in retrospect. I think he will be a good role player for years to come, but he’s no star. Chet is the deadeye shooter he was suppose to be, while also being a defensive stalwart and superior passer.

Good thing both organizations "missed" on Jabari. Like you said good role player but not a star.

I think a lot of the media draft talks talked them into Jabari having the highest floor. Like if he shoots 38% on volume and plays plus defense, which looks like he will, that is going to be good on any team.

Surely Smith had to be 3 on everybody's board in terms of talent or upside. The consensus one thing may have just been these media draft types trying to get intel and maybe the Magic putting out bad info trying to leverage a trade...or just bad reporting. the betting odds on that first pick were crazy.

Frankly all three look like they are going to be really good. Jabari has been really good this year..who knows..if figures out some more offense. Possible all three of these guys are frequent all stars or better.

[Frank Dux]

I think the Magic will be fine if Chet ends up the better player. It’s not like the Magic drafted a Marvin Bagley type player with OKC getting a Luka. They’re both high quality players.

[jasonxxx102]

It’s a serious pet peeve of mine when people can’t spell players names correctly… anyways I think the OP is correct.

Holmgren does virtually everything better than Paolo, besides having an NBA body I guess

You forgot the big one, which is the Hugh just knock on Chet, staying healthy. Did you not forget he missed a whole freaking year already??

Being healthy isn’t a skill. It’s a mixture of luck and genetics

[XTC]

Orlando should have picked Chet, he was clearly the best player in the draft.

However like it's been stated, Banchero is a fine player with all NBA upside IMO. It's like saying the Clippers are upset because they ended up with Griffin rather than Harden/Curry.

Magic will be fine

[AaronB]

I will bump this as Banchero just won PoW award (youngest player to in 4 or 5 years I think).

Is it still safe to say how much better Chet is?

I don't know. I know Chet is a huge talent.

Looks like Paolo is a pretty big star.

[FrightCoward]

I will bump this as Banchero just won PoW award (youngest player to in 4 or 5 years I think).

Is it still safe to say how much better Chet is?

I don't know. I know Chet is a huge talent.

Looks like Paolo is a pretty big star.

They’re both really good. Don’t know why it has to be one or the other. Lol.

[tooler]

Orlando should have picked Chet, he was clearly the best player in the draft.

I think the same people saying they should've picked Chet would be lecturing them on how they don't have a #1 option because they took Chet. Literally the same people.

The only way to win is to have the superstar on your roster already. Then it's easy.

Franz and Chet are good enough to be good but not good enough to draft a star wing, and I don't think this front office has the chops to trade for one. Whether you think Paolo turns into that or not, at least there's a chance.

[basketballRob]

So far, it looks like the Magic made the right decision. If Chet can prove that he can stay healthy, that may change. He's up to 15 games.

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[damanick10]

Barely 1 year in lmao... this thread is the epitome of low intelligence. Banchero just had one of the better rookie seasons ever on a below average young magic team that is now becoming something. Chet is on a contender already with some really great guards and getting set up almost every play. People can't take context for anything on this board. Saying someone is better after just a year is freaking insane.

[OrlMagic05]

For all of those who said Paolo was inefficient last year, take a look at him this year. Leading the Magic in 3pt % at 43.6% while taking 3.2 attempts per game. This guy keeps on getting better, in the month of November he is averaging 22.1ppg 6.8 reb 4.6ast while shooting 51% from field and 48% from 3!

I really like Chet, but Bigs of his stature never last. I hope he has a long career with no major injuries, but history hasnt been kind to his body type.

[timO]

For all of those who said Paolo was inefficient last year, take a look at him this year. Leading the Magic in 3pt % at 43.6% while taking 3.2 attempts per game. This guy keeps on getting better, in the month of November he is averaging 22.1ppg 6.8 reb 4.6ast while shooting 51% from field and 48% from 3!

I really like Chet, but Bigs of his stature never last. I hope he has a long career with no major injuries, but history hasnt been kind to his body type.

banchero 56%TS

Chet 69%TS

[KrAzY3]

To me this discussion is pretty silly considering the Magic and the Thunder are both second in their respective conferences. Neither team is suffering here.

If you really want to make the case for the Magic taking Chet, it would be because they would have done a better job of tanking last year with Chet being out all year. But come on, Chet has played 15 games, Banchero has played 89 games. May be this discussion will be less idiotic if those two numbers ever get close to each other.

[basketballRob]

For all of those who said Paolo was inefficient last year, take a look at him this year. Leading the Magic in 3pt % at 43.6% while taking 3.2 attempts per game. This guy keeps on getting better, in the month of November he is averaging 22.1ppg 6.8 reb 4.6ast while shooting 51% from field and 48% from 3!

I really like Chet, but Bigs of his stature never last. I hope he has a long career with no major injuries, but history hasnt been kind to his body type.

banchero 56%TS

Chet 69%TS

Chet's had a good year so far. Banchero has a 57% ts.

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[dk1115]

At this rate, Chet Holmgren is really the next goat. Shoutout to Banchero though. Instead of increasing volume, he simple increased his efficiency. Same basic counting stats, but much more efficient. Both are going to be perennial all-stars.

[OrlMagic05]

For all of those who said Paolo was inefficient last year, take a look at him this year. Leading the Magic in 3pt % at 43.6% while taking 3.2 attempts per game. This guy keeps on getting better, in the month of November he is averaging 22.1ppg 6.8 reb 4.6ast while shooting 51% from field and 48% from 3!

I really like Chet, but Bigs of his stature never last. I hope he has a long career with no major injuries, but history hasnt been kind to his body type.

banchero 56%TS

Chet 69%TS

Love how you rounded Paolo's TS% down lol

Bigs typically always have a higher TS%

Not saying Chet is a scrub, I really like him, but give me the guy that you can give the ball to and he can get a bucket and right now thats Paolo.