Bears 2023 thread V

Dresden · Post #1401 » by **Dresden** » Mon Dec 4, 2023 3:38 am

"Selection committee chairman Boo Corrigan made it clear that Florida State's exclusion from the playoff was because of Travis' injury. Playoff criteria allows the committee to consider injuries when choosing the playoff field.

"It changes their offense in its entirety," the NC State athletic director said. "And that was really a big factor."

Post #1402 » by **fleet** » Mon Dec 4, 2023 4:01 am

Packers have the Ball at the Packers 35 with 5:14 left. Jordan Love outduels Patrick Mahomes to this point.

The era of Love begins.

Edit: Christian Watson with an injury some are worried is an achilles.

Up 8 points, Packers defense tries to lose the game with a minute left with a bad penalty

-Game ends. Nothing but Love.

Mbrahv0528 · Post #1403 » by **Mbrahv0528** » Mon Dec 4, 2023 4:30 am

panthermark wrote:

Watch on YouTube

I think they are on to something.. although the Chiefs skill positions this year are really thin outside of Kelce and Pacheco.

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HearshotKDS · Post #1404 » by **HearshotKDS** » Mon Dec 4, 2023 4:32 am

Did not expect KC to lose to GB, SOS between CAR and NE is tied now. Good news is NE has MIA on their schedule twice meaning MIA wins (and they win a lot) count for double in SOS purposes.

Post #1405 » by **fleet** » Mon Dec 4, 2023 4:38 am

HearshotKDS wrote:Did not expect KC to lose to GB, SOS between CAR and NE is tied now. Good news is NE has MIA on their schedule twice meaning MIA wins (and they win a lot) count for double in SOS purposes.

I wonder how they would have resolved the tie if it ended like that.

The Packers drop into 20th draft position at tankathon playoffs set. Playoffs?

nomorezorro · Post #1406 » by **nomorezorro** » Mon Dec 4, 2023 6:01 am

mitch has a chance to be this year's lovie by coming through with a miracle loss on thursday

Jeffster81 · Post #1407 » by **Jeffster81** » Mon Dec 4, 2023 9:35 am

Dresden wrote:"Selection committee chairman Boo Corrigan made it clear that Florida State's exclusion from the playoff was because of Travis' injury. Playoff criteria allows the committee to consider injuries when choosing the playoff field.

"It changes their offense in its entirety," the NC State athletic director said. "And that was really a big factor."

Bama is simply a better team than FSU, even with Travis. Without Travis is not even close. Outside of LSU, FSU play nobody of note (don't say Clemson or Duke like they matter, currently, this is not CBB). People can be mad about the decision but it's the correct one. FSU, without Travis, would have been this year's TCU. I guarantee FSU would have been curb-stopmed by Michigan.

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I will give props to Jordan Love for improving, which gives me hope that if the Bears can upgrade at OC, they won't have to move on from Fields. With that said, I still see his ceiling as a Derek Carr.

IliketheBullsNBearstoo · Post #1408 » by **IliketheBullsNBearstoo** » Mon Dec 4, 2023 1:28 pm

Mahomes put up the same numbers as Fields against these guys. Fields has improved since then. Madden rating should surpass Mahomes this week.

Almost Retired · Post #1409 » by **Almost Retired** » Mon Dec 4, 2023 1:41 pm

Dresden wrote:And just like that, SF comes back and takes the lead.

After this week it looks like SF is the team to beat. Unless Dallas can beat them. But SF is really clicking.

Almost Retired · Post #1410 » by **Almost Retired** » Mon Dec 4, 2023 1:44 pm

fleet wrote:Jordan Love keeps getting better and better.

Yeah he looked like a bust early in the season. Now he looks like a franchise QB. He has talent. And good coaching. That helps.

Post #1411 » by **fleet** » Mon Dec 4, 2023 1:45 pm

Jeffster81 wrote:.

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I will give props to Jordan Love for improving, which gives me hope that if the Bears can upgrade at OC, they won't have to move on from Fields. With that said, I still see his ceiling as a Derek Carr.

Love’s issues were different, and short lasting.

Getting the new coach may hinge on moving onfrom Fields. Its being said by a league source that the new coach will likely want a new quarterback for the job to be more attractive.

https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/bears-insider-reveals-likely-fates-of-matt-eberflus-and-justin-fields/

IliketheBullsNBearstoo · Post #1412 » by **IliketheBullsNBearstoo** » Mon Dec 4, 2023 2:05 pm

fleet wrote:
Jeffster81 wrote:.

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I will give props to Jordan Love for improving, which gives me hope that if the Bears can upgrade at OC, they won't have to move on from Fields. With that said, I still see his ceiling as a Derek Carr.

Getting the new coach may hinge on moving onfrom Fields. Its being said by a league source that the new coach will likely want a new quarterback for the job to be more attractive.

https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/bears-insider-reveals-likely-fates-of-matt-eberflus-and-justin-fields/

Lets just say its Harbaugh. He would most certainly want to bring McCarthy in too right?

Post #1413 » by **fleet** » Mon Dec 4, 2023 2:15 pm

IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:
fleet wrote:
Jeffster81 wrote:.

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I will give props to Jordan Love for improving, which gives me hope that if the Bears can upgrade at OC, they won't have to move on from Fields. With that said, I still see his ceiling as a Derek Carr.

Getting the new coach may hinge on moving onfrom Fields. Its being said by a league source that the new coach will likely want a new quarterback for the job to be more attractive.

https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/bears-insider-reveals-likely-fates-of-matt-eberflus-and-justin-fields/

Lets just say its Harbaugh. He would most certainly want to bring McCarthy in too right?

There’s no way to know that Harbaugh thinks McCarthy is the best quarterback in the draft. I would guess he doesn’t think that

Almost Retired · Post #1414 » by **Almost Retired** » Mon Dec 4, 2023 2:24 pm

IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:
fleet wrote:
Jeffster81 wrote:.

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I will give props to Jordan Love for improving, which gives me hope that if the Bears can upgrade at OC, they won't have to move on from Fields. With that said, I still see his ceiling as a Derek Carr.

Getting the new coach may hinge on moving onfrom Fields. Its being said by a league source that the new coach will likely want a new quarterback for the job to be more attractive.

https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/bears-insider-reveals-likely-fates-of-matt-eberflus-and-justin-fields/

Lets just say its Harbaugh. He would most certainly want to bring McCarthy in too right?

I think McCarthy needs another year at Michigan, but IF Harbaugh leaves he would probably declare for the Draft. If Harbaugh wanted him I'm pretty sure he can he had with a mid 1st round pick. That would leave us some great opportunities to move down and add significant draft capital and still get some really good players. Several teams are going to want Caleb or Maye and would be willing to give up a lot to get them. And we wouldn't have to move down far. The Giants or Jets would love to catapult to the #1 pick ahead of New England who is sure going to be drafting a QB. And we'd still get an impact player at #6 or #7, plus multiple 2nd rounders and next year's first. Maybe more. And we could move down from our own pick as well. McCarthy would take longer to develop, but the rest of the roster could get upgraded and develop along with him.

Almost Retired · Post #1415 » by **Almost Retired** » Mon Dec 4, 2023 2:32 pm

Watching the Dolphins game and then the KC v GB game one thought comes to mind. KCs decision to let Tyreke Hill go has to be one of the greatest mistakes in NFL history. KC is not going deep in the playoffs this year. Not enough reliable weapons for Mahomes. Kelce is starting to slip. He's on the downhill side of the peak. Pacheco is great, but their receiving corp is second rate. Meanwhile Tyreke Hill is outrunning everyone and catching monster TD catches. This proves that you can have the best QB in football and still be just an above average team without the supporting cast. WR has become the 2nd most important position in the modern NFL. We need an upgrade to play opposite of Moore. Harrison would be ideal. But Odunze or Nabors would foot the bill also.

Jcool0 · Post #1416 » by **Jcool0** » Mon Dec 4, 2023 3:51 pm

Almost Retired wrote:Watching the Dolphins game and then the KC v GB game one thought comes to mind. KCs decision to let Tyreke Hill go has to be one of the greatest mistakes in NFL history. KC is not going deep in the playoffs this year. Not enough reliable weapons for Mahomes. Kelce is starting to slip. He's on the downhill side of the peak. Pacheco is great, but their receiving corp is second rate. Meanwhile Tyreke Hill is outrunning everyone and catching monster TD catches. This proves that you can have the best QB in football and still be just an above average team without the supporting cast. WR has become the 2nd most important position in the modern NFL. We need an upgrade to play opposite of Moore. Harrison would be ideal. But Odunze or Nabors would foot the bill also.

Cant be that big of a mistake if Mahomes won an MVP and a Superbowl without him.

Dresden · Post #1417 » by **Dresden** » Mon Dec 4, 2023 3:54 pm

Almost Retired wrote:Watching the Dolphins game and then the KC v GB game one thought comes to mind. KCs decision to let Tyreke Hill go has to be one of the greatest mistakes in NFL history. KC is not going deep in the playoffs this year. Not enough reliable weapons for Mahomes. Kelce is starting to slip. He's on the downhill side of the peak. Pacheco is great, but their receiving corp is second rate. Meanwhile Tyreke Hill is outrunning everyone and catching monster TD catches. This proves that you can have the best QB in football and still be just an above average team without the supporting cast. WR has become the 2nd most important position in the modern NFL. We need an upgrade to play opposite of Moore. Harrison would be ideal. But Odunze or Nabors would foot the bill also.

I agree that WR is really important, but historically, as was shown in that chart that someone posted on here, a lot of great WR's come from the later rounds in the draft. that being said, I would go QB with CAR's pick, and then for our own pick, either WR or EDGE. Both are vitally important positions. I think we are ok at OT with Braxton playing well this year. But as the Niners are showing, having a great pass rush is crucial, so EDGE should also be a priority. Tough decision to make.

Jcool0 · Post #1418 » by **Jcool0** » Mon Dec 4, 2023 4:01 pm

Dresden wrote:
Almost Retired wrote:Watching the Dolphins game and then the KC v GB game one thought comes to mind. KCs decision to let Tyreke Hill go has to be one of the greatest mistakes in NFL history. KC is not going deep in the playoffs this year. Not enough reliable weapons for Mahomes. Kelce is starting to slip. He's on the downhill side of the peak. Pacheco is great, but their receiving corp is second rate. Meanwhile Tyreke Hill is outrunning everyone and catching monster TD catches. This proves that you can have the best QB in football and still be just an above average team without the supporting cast. WR has become the 2nd most important position in the modern NFL. We need an upgrade to play opposite of Moore. Harrison would be ideal. But Odunze or Nabors would foot the bill also.

I agree that WR is really important, but historically, as was shown in that chart that someone posted on here, a lot of great WR's come from the later rounds in the draft. that being said, I would go QB with CAR's pick, and then for our own pick, either WR or EDGE. Both are vitally important positions. I think we are ok at OT with Braxton playing well this year. But as the Niners are showing, having a great pass rush is crucial, so EDGE should also be a priority. Tough decision to make.

You trade the Panthers pick, maybe NE if they give up next years 1. Then you go Harrison Jr and with the Bears pick either Alt or Fashanu. If you trade with lets say Washington at #4 then you go with Bowers if Harrison is gone. This isn't a good year to take an edge rusher in the top 5.

JohnnyKILLroy · Post #1419 » by **JohnnyKILLroy** » Mon Dec 4, 2023 5:36 pm

You can always trade for a really good WR.

You can never trade for a really good QB.

Get the QB first

nitetrain8603 · Post #1420 » by **nitetrain8603** » Mon Dec 4, 2023 6:05 pm

Jcool0 wrote:
Dresden wrote:
Almost Retired wrote:Watching the Dolphins game and then the KC v GB game one thought comes to mind. KCs decision to let Tyreke Hill go has to be one of the greatest mistakes in NFL history. KC is not going deep in the playoffs this year. Not enough reliable weapons for Mahomes. Kelce is starting to slip. He's on the downhill side of the peak. Pacheco is great, but their receiving corp is second rate. Meanwhile Tyreke Hill is outrunning everyone and catching monster TD catches. This proves that you can have the best QB in football and still be just an above average team without the supporting cast. WR has become the 2nd most important position in the modern NFL. We need an upgrade to play opposite of Moore. Harrison would be ideal. But Odunze or Nabors would foot the bill also.

I agree that WR is really important, but historically, as was shown in that chart that someone posted on here, a lot of great WR's come from the later rounds in the draft. that being said, I would go QB with CAR's pick, and then for our own pick, either WR or EDGE. Both are vitally important positions. I think we are ok at OT with Braxton playing well this year. But as the Niners are showing, having a great pass rush is crucial, so EDGE should also be a priority. Tough decision to make.

You trade the Panthers pick, maybe NE if they give up next years 1. Then you go Harrison Jr and with the Bears pick either Alt or Fashanu. If you trade with lets say Washington at #4 then you go with Bowers if Harrison is gone. This isn't a good year to take an edge rusher in the top 5.

So who's playing QB? :-?