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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#1441 » by Clint Eastwood » Tue Dec 5, 2023 3:24 am

dice wrote:this week's simulated draft:

1 cards - caleb
2 bears - marvin
3 pats - maye
4 wash - bowers
5 saints (from jets) - fashanu
6 bears - nix

Thats my dream scenario for the Bears. Harrison and Nix. I think Nix is the best qb in the class, personally.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#1442 » by dice » Tue Dec 5, 2023 3:47 am

PFF says that kmet has been thrown 56 catchable balls this season and has caught every single one, making him a top 5 TE in overall value so far this season...just behind #3 travis swift

meanwhile TJ edwards came into the week leading the league in tackles...1 ahead of roquan
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#1443 » by Chi town » Tue Dec 5, 2023 3:59 am

That didn’t look good. Lawrence done for the year?
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#1444 » by patryk7754 » Tue Dec 5, 2023 4:06 am

dice wrote:PFF says that kmet has been thrown 56 catchable balls this season and has caught every single one, making him a top 5 TE in overall value so far this season...just behind #3 travis swift

meanwhile TJ edwards came into the week leading the league in tackles...1 ahead of roquan

I was a little iffy on the kmet deal since he'd only had one season were he played up to what's expected of him but he's probably out played the contract so far.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#1445 » by panthermark » Tue Dec 5, 2023 4:16 am

dice wrote:PFF says that kmet has been thrown 56 catchable balls this season and has caught every single one, making him a top 5 TE in overall value so far this season...just behind #3 travis swift

meanwhile TJ edwards came into the week leading the league in tackles...1 ahead of roquan

I think he has played better as of late. I don't remember him dropping any passes, but I do put that Denver interception 100% on him.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#1446 » by HoopsterJones » Tue Dec 5, 2023 5:49 am

Burrow-less Bengals stopping their 3 game skid and getting their 6th win gives extra cushion for the Bears pick.

Hope Trevor Lawrence isn’t seriously injured.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#1447 » by Almost Retired » Tue Dec 5, 2023 12:48 pm

Jcool0 wrote:
Almost Retired wrote:Watching the Dolphins game and then the KC v GB game one thought comes to mind. KCs decision to let Tyreke Hill go has to be one of the greatest mistakes in NFL history. KC is not going deep in the playoffs this year. Not enough reliable weapons for Mahomes. Kelce is starting to slip. He's on the downhill side of the peak. Pacheco is great, but their receiving corp is second rate. Meanwhile Tyreke Hill is outrunning everyone and catching monster TD catches. This proves that you can have the best QB in football and still be just an above average team without the supporting cast. WR has become the 2nd most important position in the modern NFL. We need an upgrade to play opposite of Moore. Harrison would be ideal. But Odunze or Nabors would foot the bill also.


Cant be that big of a mistake if Mahomes won an MVP and a Superbowl without him.


They also had Juju Smith-Schuster last year. He was their 2nd leading receiver in the Super Bowl behind Kelce. Kelce has slipped a bit since last year. Fewer yards after the catch. Of course teams can double team him now with such a poor WR group that IS left, like Dropaholic Kadarius Toney. I contend that if Patrick still had Tyreke Hill they'd have fewer losses and would be the favorite to go to the Super Bowl again. I think the Dolphins or the Ravens will make it this year, to be the eventual loser to the 49ers.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#1448 » by Almost Retired » Tue Dec 5, 2023 12:54 pm

dice wrote:this week's simulated draft:

1 cards - caleb
2 bears - marvin
3 pats - maye
4 wash - bowers
5 saints (from jets) - fashanu
6 bears - nix


I'd love that outcome. But the Cards aren't picking #1 after their latest victory. If the Carolina pick isn't #1 then New England's will be.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#1449 » by JockItch43 » Tue Dec 5, 2023 1:03 pm

Almost Retired wrote:
dice wrote:this week's simulated draft:

1 cards - caleb
2 bears - marvin
3 pats - maye
4 wash - bowers
5 saints (from jets) - fashanu
6 bears - nix


I'd love that outcome. But the Cards aren't picking #1 after their latest victory. If the Carolina pick isn't #1 then New England's will be.



I agree but I’d be receptive to a trade down with NE, them getting the 1st and us getting MHJ like this mock suggests. Might only be a first and second pick swap, but take advantage if MHJ is your guy.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#1450 » by molepharmer » Tue Dec 5, 2023 2:23 pm

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HoopsterJones wrote:Man the Titans and Jets had a chance to win their games.

Pats lost 0-6 to the Chargers.

Hopefully the Cardinals hold onto their 14 point lead against Mitch and the Steelers.

Titans (4-8) probably won't win another game. They had significant injuries in today's game (Simmons, Henry, Stonehouse, Whyle) and don't have an easy winnable game remaining. Todays Titan game was overwhelmingly decided by special teams; never seen such complete ineptitude.

In a follow up to the ineptitude ...... Titans fire their special team coordinator C Aukerman; punter Stonehouse is out for the season.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#1451 » by Dresden » Tue Dec 5, 2023 4:47 pm

Almost Retired wrote:
dice wrote:this week's simulated draft:

1 cards - caleb
2 bears - marvin
3 pats - maye
4 wash - bowers
5 saints (from jets) - fashanu
6 bears - nix


I'd love that outcome. But the Cards aren't picking #1 after their latest victory. If the Carolina pick isn't #1 then New England's will be.


If the bears are going to move on from Fields, and right now, I can't see any reason not to, I would guess there's less than a 5% chance they don't take a QB with the CAR pick, rather than waiting to take one with their own pick. QB is so important, you don't try to get cute and take a guy that everyone else thinks is the 3rd best QB in the class, even if it does net you MHJ. And if the Bears evaluate the QB's and think Nix is #1, I would guess other teams will too, and so he will go in the top 2 or 3 picks. And even if they don't, there's no way to know if another team won't move up to take him at 3,4,5. And then you're really screwed. Poles can't afford a fiasco like that.

So take your favorite QB with CAR pick, and then if you want a WR, more than likely you'll have the second best one at the Bears pick and can take Odunze or Nabors.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#1452 » by ThisGuyFawkes » Tue Dec 5, 2023 4:56 pm

Dresden wrote:
Almost Retired wrote:
dice wrote:this week's simulated draft:

1 cards - caleb
2 bears - marvin
3 pats - maye
4 wash - bowers
5 saints (from jets) - fashanu
6 bears - nix


I'd love that outcome. But the Cards aren't picking #1 after their latest victory. If the Carolina pick isn't #1 then New England's will be.


If the bears are going to move on from Fields, and right now, I can't see any reason not to, I would guess there's less than a 5% chance they don't take a QB with the CAR pick, rather than waiting to take one with their own pick. QB is so important, you don't try to get cute and take a guy that everyone else thinks is the 3rd best QB in the class, even if it does net you MHJ. And if the Bears evaluate the QB's and think Nix is #1, I would guess other teams will too, and so he will go in the top 2 or 3 picks. And even if they don't, there's no way to know if another team won't move up to take him at 3,4,5. And then you're really screwed. Poles can't afford a fiasco like that.

So take your favorite QB with CAR pick, and then if you want a WR, more than likely you'll have the second best one at the Bears pick and can take Odunze or Nabors.


I agree. Get your QB and then take the best available WR or DE with Bears pick. If you truly think MHJ is a future hall of famer, then trade back up and take him at #3. But QB has to be #1.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#1453 » by Betta Bulleavit » Tue Dec 5, 2023 5:16 pm

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Dresden wrote:
Almost Retired wrote:
I'd love that outcome. But the Cards aren't picking #1 after their latest victory. If the Carolina pick isn't #1 then New England's will be.


If the bears are going to move on from Fields, and right now, I can't see any reason not to, I would guess there's less than a 5% chance they don't take a QB with the CAR pick, rather than waiting to take one with their own pick. QB is so important, you don't try to get cute and take a guy that everyone else thinks is the 3rd best QB in the class, even if it does net you MHJ. And if the Bears evaluate the QB's and think Nix is #1, I would guess other teams will too, and so he will go in the top 2 or 3 picks. And even if they don't, there's no way to know if another team won't move up to take him at 3,4,5. And then you're really screwed. Poles can't afford a fiasco like that.

So take your favorite QB with CAR pick, and then if you want a WR, more than likely you'll have the second best one at the Bears pick and can take Odunze or Nabors.


I agree. Get your QB and then take the best available WR or DE with Bears pick. If you truly think MHJ is a future hall of famer, then trade back up and take him at #3. But QB has to be #1.

I could get behind this line of thinking if I felt like Williams or Maye were going to be sure fire (top 10) QBs. I’m not sold on that one bit. The hype machine behind these two is unreal at this point. The hype is bigger than the talent. Period. And because of this, I want the guy that I believe is going to be the best talent out of this draft and that’s MHJ. If you want to take Nix or Pennix with our pick, fine. But let the dumb-dumbs fight over the hype boys.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#1454 » by ThisGuyFawkes » Tue Dec 5, 2023 5:24 pm

Check out some of Caleb's film breakdown by guys who know a lot more than we do. It's not all great, but you can see why he's so hyped.

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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#1455 » by fleet » Tue Dec 5, 2023 5:34 pm

mlitney01 wrote:
Dresden wrote:
Almost Retired wrote:
I'd love that outcome. But the Cards aren't picking #1 after their latest victory. If the Carolina pick isn't #1 then New England's will be.


If the bears are going to move on from Fields, and right now, I can't see any reason not to, I would guess there's less than a 5% chance they don't take a QB with the CAR pick, rather than waiting to take one with their own pick. QB is so important, you don't try to get cute and take a guy that everyone else thinks is the 3rd best QB in the class, even if it does net you MHJ. And if the Bears evaluate the QB's and think Nix is #1, I would guess other teams will too, and so he will go in the top 2 or 3 picks. And even if they don't, there's no way to know if another team won't move up to take him at 3,4,5. And then you're really screwed. Poles can't afford a fiasco like that.

So take your favorite QB with CAR pick, and then if you want a WR, more than likely you'll have the second best one at the Bears pick and can take Odunze or Nabors.


I agree. Get your QB and then take the best available WR or DE with Bears pick. If you truly think MHJ is a future hall of famer, then trade back up and take him at #3. But QB has to be #1.

Agreed. You’re gonna have to compromise at WR, to take a step down on WR board after the quarterback is taken. But that’s where you absolutely cannot frivolously take a step down….your quarterback board. A CW/Maye - Odunze/Bowers draft is a fantastic outcome for this offense.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#1456 » by bad knees » Tue Dec 5, 2023 5:46 pm

mlitney01 wrote:Check out some of Caleb's film breakdown by guys who know a lot more than we do. It's not all great, but you can see why he's so hyped.



It'll be interesting to see what JT O'Sullivan says when he takes a look at Caleb's tape against ND this year, when he threw all those interceptions. O'Sullivan says that he puts off most of his tape review of college quarterbacks until it's NFL draft season. So we will get to see his final take on all the college QBs in Feb-March, I would think.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#1457 » by HoopsterJones » Tue Dec 5, 2023 5:49 pm

Bears have the #1 and #5 as of today.

Key week 14 games for the 2024 tankathon (Draft):

NE (2-10) @ PIT (7-5)
DET (9-3) @ CHI (4-8)
HOU (7-5) @ NYJ (4-8)
TEN (4-8) @ MIA (9-3)
GB (6-6) @ NYG (4-8)

I’m hoping some how the NYJ and NYG find a way to win.

NE looks so god awful that I doubt they can beat PIT with Mitch.
TEN won’t be beating MIA.

CHI are only 3 point under dogs against DET.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#1458 » by ThisGuyFawkes » Tue Dec 5, 2023 6:02 pm

bad knees wrote:
It'll be interesting to see what JT O'Sullivan says when he takes a look at Caleb's tape against ND this year, when he threw all those interceptions. O'Sullivan says that he puts off most of his tape review of college quarterbacks until it's NFL draft season. So we will get to see his final take on all the college QBs in Feb-March, I would think.


Yeah, when I have some more time, I'd love to sit down and watch film breakdowns on other QB's. I watched a bit of Maye but wasn't all that impressed, to be honest. He's good, but he's not better than CW. Maybe I haven't dug deep enough though.
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Post#1459 » by fleet » Tue Dec 5, 2023 6:04 pm

mlitney01 wrote:Check out some of Caleb's film breakdown by guys who know a lot more than we do. It's not all great, but you can see why he's so hyped.


It’s great. Unfortunately I want to see more highlights of on time throws from the pocket. I want to know he will have the discipline to take the quick release singles to move the chains instead of passing too many up for hunting Hone runs and triples. I know he can do it. His YouTubes are too oriented to spectacular plays for my personal purposes. I will watch when i have the time though, thanks
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#1460 » by iqureshi » Tue Dec 5, 2023 7:44 pm

dice wrote:PFF says that kmet has been thrown 56 catchable balls this season and has caught every single one, making him a top 5 TE in overall value so far this season...just behind #3 travis swift

meanwhile TJ edwards came into the week leading the league in tackles...1 ahead of roquan


best part of the Kmet deal, is it was relatively front loaded, so its a steal now, at little under 11 million a year from hear on out.

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