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Re: PG San Antonio: Dame Time boats races Spurs 

Post#21 » by ShootingtheJ » Wed Dec 20, 2023 4:26 am

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El Pooch Grande wrote:5 game win streak…how we feeling bout Griff these days?


Still pretty much the same. We have an absolute garbage defense that's not going to get us anywhere in the postseason. It's comical that these bad teams can run up such high scores against us.


Not defending the defense, but part of the high scores against us is because of pace. We're playing faster. It's a higher possession game.
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Post#22 » by soxperry » Wed Dec 20, 2023 4:26 am

defense is for pussies.

say that 10 times a day and i promise you, you will feel better about the Bucks.
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Re: PG San Antonio: Dame Time boats races Spurs 

Post#23 » by sidney lanier » Wed Dec 20, 2023 4:28 am

Giannis with an 11/14/16 Joker-like stat line, Dame with 40, an easy win. RealGM reaction: misery.
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Re: PG San Antonio: Dame Time boats races Spurs 

Post#24 » by skones » Wed Dec 20, 2023 4:30 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:
mediocrityrules wrote:
El Pooch Grande wrote:5 game win streak…how we feeling bout Griff these days?


Still pretty much the same. We have an absolute garbage defense that's not going to get us anywhere in the postseason. It's comical that these bad teams can run up such high scores against us.


Not defending the defense, but part of the high scores against us is because of pace. We're playing faster. It's a higher possession game.


LMFAO, it's almost as if DRTG is pace adjusted and there's still only a gap of 3 points. So no, no it's. not.
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Post#25 » by LUKE23 » Wed Dec 20, 2023 4:33 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:
mediocrityrules wrote:
El Pooch Grande wrote:5 game win streak…how we feeling bout Griff these days?


Still pretty much the same. We have an absolute garbage defense that's not going to get us anywhere in the postseason. It's comical that these bad teams can run up such high scores against us.


Not defending the defense, but part of the high scores against us is because of pace. We're playing faster. It's a higher possession game.


Which is why this stat called defensive rating exists and the Bucks have been bottom 10 in it the entire season.
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Post#26 » by soxperry » Wed Dec 20, 2023 4:36 am

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El Pooch Grande wrote:5 game win streak…how we feeling bout Griff these days?


Still pretty much the same. We have an absolute garbage defense that's not going to get us anywhere in the postseason. It's comical that these bad teams can run up such high scores against us.


Not defending the defense, but part of the high scores against us is because of pace. We're playing faster. It's a higher possession game.


i wish cleaning the glass would let me filter everything by a time range, so i can't remove our really ugly start from these numbers, but we are 21st in pts per poss and 13th in eFG%. Assuming that's better since the switch back to Brook in the drop. And we've played most of the season without Crowder while still trotting Beasley out there next to Dame for 30 minutes per game.

Take out Beasley, put in a defensive minded 2 who can shoot the 3, and i would be shocked if we can't be top 10 in both by the end of the season.
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Post#27 » by aboveAverage » Wed Dec 20, 2023 4:39 am

Why are some of you guys so damn miserable all the time? Enjoy the ride. I have a feeling the defense will fix itself in the playoffs when the intensity goes up.

I’m no fan of Griffin, but I also don’t make it a habit to be so damn insufferable after every win.
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Post#28 » by Milbucks96 » Wed Dec 20, 2023 4:48 am

Yea idk about AG still. I trust Giannis, and Dame. Khris and Brook also, but to a lesser extent. Our defense sucks still, our offense is good but seems like dame and Giannis is driving that. It wouldn’t be right to say that Griffen doesn’t have a positive effect on that side because they run some nice things, but I still think the coaching staff is lagging behind the talent

I wanna see more against the good teams. Beating the bad teams down is a sign of a good team though. I’m cautiously optimistic about the coaching.
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Post#29 » by Bucksmaniac » Wed Dec 20, 2023 4:56 am

mediocrityrules wrote:
El Pooch Grande wrote:5 game win streak…how we feeling bout Griff these days?


Still pretty much the same. We have an absolute garbage defense that's not going to get us anywhere in the postseason. It's comical that these bad teams can run up such high scores against us.


Our pace is easily top 5 isn’t it? That’s inflating the other team’s numbers as well, I’m encouraged by an increasing pct of these wins being double digit and not requiring Dame Time.
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Post#30 » by skones » Wed Dec 20, 2023 5:07 am

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i wish cleaning the glass would let me filter everything by a time range, so i can't remove our really ugly start from these numbers, but we are 21st in pts per poss and 13th in eFG%. Assuming that's better since the switch back to Brook in the drop. And we've played most of the season without Crowder while still trotting Beasley out there next to Dame for 30 minutes per game.

Take out Beasley, put in a defensive minded 2 who can shoot the 3, and i would be shocked if we can't be top 10 in both by the end of the season.


We ain't giving up these points on the perimeter. We're giving teams free run at the rim. We're 20th in the league in points in the paint given up, an inexcusable number with Giannis and Brook on the roster. This is down to a schematic switch.
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Post#31 » by Bucksmaniac » Wed Dec 20, 2023 5:12 am

skones wrote:
soxperry wrote:
i wish cleaning the glass would let me filter everything by a time range, so i can't remove our really ugly start from these numbers, but we are 21st in pts per poss and 13th in eFG%. Assuming that's better since the switch back to Brook in the drop. And we've played most of the season without Crowder while still trotting Beasley out there next to Dame for 30 minutes per game.

Take out Beasley, put in a defensive minded 2 who can shoot the 3, and i would be shocked if we can't be top 10 in both by the end of the season.


We ain't giving up these points on the perimeter. We're giving teams free run at the rim. We're 20th in the league in points in the paint given up, an inexcusable number with Giannis and Brook on the roster. This is down to a schematic switch.


Brook is our only good interior defender who actually spends a good amount of time there, if Giannis could focus near the rim we’d hopefully have above average paint defense.
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Post#32 » by skones » Wed Dec 20, 2023 5:14 am

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skones wrote:
soxperry wrote:
i wish cleaning the glass would let me filter everything by a time range, so i can't remove our really ugly start from these numbers, but we are 21st in pts per poss and 13th in eFG%. Assuming that's better since the switch back to Brook in the drop. And we've played most of the season without Crowder while still trotting Beasley out there next to Dame for 30 minutes per game.

Take out Beasley, put in a defensive minded 2 who can shoot the 3, and i would be shocked if we can't be top 10 in both by the end of the season.


We ain't giving up these points on the perimeter. We're giving teams free run at the rim. We're 20th in the league in points in the paint given up, an inexcusable number with Giannis and Brook on the roster. This is down to a schematic switch.


Brook is our only good interior defender who actually spends a good amount of time there, if Giannis could focus near the rim we’d hopefully have above average paint defense.


I have a hard time watching this play out over and over with what we've seen in years past and not think it's by design. Giannis is sticking to assignments instead of giving help.
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Post#33 » by Profound23 » Wed Dec 20, 2023 5:18 am

aboveAverage wrote:Why are you guys so damn miserable all the time? Enjoy the ride. I have a feeling the defense will fix itself in the playoffs when the intensity goes up.

I’m no fan of Griffin, but I also don’t make it a habit to be so damn insufferable after every win.


Agreed. It's exhausting.

We are getting better every week. Dame is shooting better...him and Giannis are meshing...Lopez is playing well...role players stepping it up. Great to see
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Post#34 » by NintendoPrime » Wed Dec 20, 2023 5:34 am

First time poster, needed a place to talk bucks after nation destroyed their websites with that horrible commenting system.

I don’t get the nastiness towards the Bucks at all. Especially on defense. Comment “we have been bottom 10 all season”

But we’re literally the 20th ranked for the entire season, which is not bottom 10, and considering we use to be #29, it would suggest we’re not and haven’t been playing bottom 10 in quite awhile actually.

We’re sitting here as one of 3 20 win teams in the league and acting like the sky is falling.

Do you guys watch other nba games at all? Last night clips won 151 to 127 against the pacers. You think they are worried their defensive rating? We’re like 1 point in the defensive rating away from being top 12.

A literal 5 game good stretch can slap us there. Not sure why we panic so much. Ever since the IST all this team has done is make basketball look easy. And we start to panic.

I’d only be worried if we struggle to compete with the best. Right now we beat the 76ers already, barley lost to Boston in Boston by 3, best the mavericks - have Orlando coming up with a chance to avenge our loss earlier - I get it we have had an easy schedule but we’re coming into playing our best ball of the year after a rough start.

Not worried one bit.
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Post#35 » by -Jragon- » Wed Dec 20, 2023 5:40 am

Good win guys. Keep gelling -- find your role in it and accept it and we'll be fine.
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Post#36 » by rilamann » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:09 am

Profound23 wrote:
aboveAverage wrote:Why are you guys so damn miserable all the time? Enjoy the ride. I have a feeling the defense will fix itself in the playoffs when the intensity goes up.

I’m no fan of Griffin, but I also don’t make it a habit to be so damn insufferable after every win.


Agreed. It's exhausting.

We are getting better every week. Dame is shooting better...him and Giannis are meshing...Lopez is playing well...role players stepping it up. Great to see


It's the coach Bud cult members who want so bad to have their I told you so moment in regards to the Bucks firing their overrated hero.

Can't give the Bucks any credit for their 20-7 record and noticeable improvements, as that would obviously be counter productive to their pro-Bud agenda.

I said about a month ago to get ready for it. Get ready for the contingent of people who are going to complain and be miserable all season regardless of how successful the Bucks are. Because Bud is not there.

Bucks are 5 points and a lucky Alex Caruso buzzer beating 3 from winning 21 of their last 23 and a 23-4 record. Winning 18 of our last 23 for a 20-7 record is still pretty damn good for a team that is still in the process of figuring things out.

The Bucks could be sitting at 45-17 in March and I bet these people will still be holding on for dear life like Oh yeah, just wait until the Bucks start playing the good teams....lol.
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Post#37 » by rilamann » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:11 am

NintendoPrime wrote:First time poster, needed a place to talk bucks after nation destroyed their websites with that horrible commenting system.

I don’t get the nastiness towards the Bucks at all. Especially on defense. Comment “we have been bottom 10 all season”

But we’re literally the 20th ranked for the entire season, which is not bottom 10, and considering we use to be #29, it would suggest we’re not and haven’t been playing bottom 10 in quite awhile actually.

We’re sitting here as one of 3 20 win teams in the league and acting like the sky is falling.

Do you guys watch other nba games at all? Last night clips won 151 to 127 against the pacers. You think they are worried their defensive rating? We’re like 1 point in the defensive rating away from being top 12.

A literal 5 game good stretch can slap us there. Not sure why we panic so much. Ever since the IST all this team has done is make basketball look easy. And we start to panic.

I’d only be worried if we struggle to compete with the best. Right now we beat the 76ers already, barley lost to Boston in Boston by 3, best the mavericks - have Orlando coming up with a chance to avenge our loss earlier - I get it we have had an easy schedule but we’re coming into playing our best ball of the year after a rough start.

Not worried one bit.


Welcome to the board.

Nice to see that you're not a member of coach Bud's cult.

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Post#38 » by soxperry » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:11 am

NintendoPrime wrote:First time poster, needed a place to talk bucks after nation destroyed their websites with that horrible commenting system.

I don’t get the nastiness towards the Bucks at all. Especially on defense. Comment “we have been bottom 10 all season”

But we’re literally the 20th ranked for the entire season, which is not bottom 10, and considering we use to be #29, it would suggest we’re not and haven’t been playing bottom 10 in quite awhile actually.

We’re sitting here as one of 3 20 win teams in the league and acting like the sky is falling.

Do you guys watch other nba games at all? Last night clips won 151 to 127 against the pacers. You think they are worried their defensive rating? We’re like 1 point in the defensive rating away from being top 12.

A literal 5 game good stretch can slap us there. Not sure why we panic so much. Ever since the IST all this team has done is make basketball look easy. And we start to panic.

I’d only be worried if we struggle to compete with the best. Right now we beat the 76ers already, barley lost to Boston in Boston by 3, best the mavericks - have Orlando coming up with a chance to avenge our loss earlier - I get it we have had an easy schedule but we’re coming into playing our best ball of the year after a rough start.

Not worried one bit.


if you need some perspective, go dig up some of the posts from the year we won the title but hadn't won the title yet. there were more than a few "trade Giannis" sentiments and they were not joking. so.. it is what it is.
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Post#39 » by El Pooch Grande » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:44 am

sidney lanier wrote:Giannis with an 11/14/16 Joker-like stat line, Dame with 40, an easy win. RealGM reaction: misery.


Literally the one post that best describes this board :lol:
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Post#40 » by mediocrityrules » Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:15 am

El Pooch Grande wrote:
sidney lanier wrote:Giannis with an 11/14/16 Joker-like stat line, Dame with 40, an easy win. RealGM reaction: misery.


Literally the one post that best describes this board :lol:


Nah, everyone is just fawning over our offense, and that's fair enough, as it's humming. There's not one person on this board who doesn't think we're now doing amazing stuff on O, Dame and Giannis really look to have figured out playing together, and Midds is coming back to form, giving us a really dominant, multi-dimensional Big 3.

To be clear, OUR O IS NOT THE PROBLEM. No one thinks it is.

It's our defense, and there's a strong argument to say that we do not have a defense that will stand up when the pace slows right down in the playoffs. I can't believe that there's so many posters saying "don't worry, it will just work come the playoffs". We've had bad exits often enough to know that you can't hope things are going to turn around on their own.

We saw tonight just another example of how easy it is to score in the paint against us. Giannis is now just a bystander when people are driving the lane. He won't step in at all, and if Brook isn't on the floor, there is no one to stop the drives and cuts. Bobby turnstile is no good there either. We still have a long way to go to figure out our D, and from what Coach Grief has shown so far, we don't have the right pieces to play defense the way he wants to play it. This won't cut it in the playoffs.
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