Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19

fallguy · Post #141 » by **fallguy** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:15 am

MaxwellSmart wrote:Another Game just GIVEN away...SMH, Did we have any timeouts at the end of regulation??

Just let them play! No need to run a play!

Green89 · Post #142 » by **Green89** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:15 am

The Corey's · Post #143 » by **The Corey's** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:15 am

fallguy wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
fallguy wrote:
You're fighting the wrong fight tonight.

Sam has been great and he's only getting better.

Be here in May with the same energy.

Tonight is about tonight. It's not about the last 6 weeks.

I stand by my statement. He will choke with the rest of them.

If your argument is Sam had a bad game you win. But he's a good player and that's obvious to anyone paying attention.

Good in what sense? Are you counting on him to be a valuable and contributing player in the playoffs?

Fierce1 · Post #144 » by **Fierce1** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:15 am

Let's also not forget the Cs were doing load management with KP in this game.

If you want to be serious in winning every game, don't sit a player if he can play.

GSW does not win this game if KP played.

PierceFan4ever · Post #145 » by **PierceFan4ever** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:16 am

return2glory wrote:
fallguy wrote:Nobody on this board can possibly think that Joe adds value in close and late games.

Can they?

I say the same about Tatum, over and over. He is a notorious choker in close games.

He’s so talented but his go to move is literally chucking threes in the clutch…would be nice if he got the ball in the post more. There’s literally an interview that came out the other day where Iggy is talking to Tatum and how he can be so much more effective late in games if he got the ball in the post and make plays happen instead of dribbling at the top of the key which is **** hard to do. Looks like he didn’t take up on that advice and still doing the same crap for years. It’s not even end of 4th quarters but how many other closing quarters has Tatum taken a garbage ass three that had no chance? Seems like it’s now more than ever.

JT is my guy, and he was worthy of all the praise last year, still has consistency problems in the playoffs but makes up for it. This year however he’s been a big step down for me. Hardly has taken over games in awhile. Not playing the same aggressive way we are used to seeing. I say this holding him to a high standards because number wise he’s more than all star level player but he should be better than what he’s showing.

fallguy · Post #146 » by **fallguy** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:16 am

Green89 wrote:

Read on Twitter

He's a great shooter no matter how many shots he misses. People keep telling me this.

bigfoot_cryptozoology · Post #147 » by **bigfoot_cryptozoology** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:16 am

With Queta lessening the need for another big man they really need to go out and get someone who can hit three pointers. If they're going to take lots of three-point shot at least have people who can make three-point shots consistently. But Mazzulla he is the number one issue here. The Celtics for the most part are ready to win a championship, but not Mazzulla who still hasn't figured it out, who still doesn't know how to properly use a time out, who lets 17-point leads evaporate in the third and fourth quarter. Who can't win overtime games. He is not ready to win a championship with this team and they need to dump him after the season.

fallguy · Post #148 » by **fallguy** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:17 am

If you're below 30% shooting on a certain type of three you are TERRIBLE at that shot and you should STOP taking it.

Marcus Smart got mauled for being a better shooter from three (overall) than Tatum is on that shot.

The Corey's · Post #149 » by **The Corey's** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:18 am

MaxwellSmart wrote:Another Game just GIVEN away...SMH, Did we have any timeouts at the end of regulation??

Yes sir.

Joe don't have control over his team. Not if he's literally afraid to call a time and prevent on if the Jays from hucking a **** 40 point shot in a tied game at expiration.

Memokerobi · Post #150 » by **Memokerobi** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:20 am

Fierce1 wrote:Let's also not forget the Cs were doing load management with KP in this game.

If you want to be serious in winning every game, don't sit a player if he can play.

GSW does not win this game if KP played.

Idgaf about winning this game in December on a 4 game road trip if it jeopardizes KP’s health. The loss sucked ass but KP’s health is the most important factor for our title hopes. Be as conservative as you need to be

playa-hater · Post #151 » by **playa-hater** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:21 am

return2glory wrote:
fallguy wrote:Nobody on this board can possibly think that Joe adds value in close and late games.

Can they?

I say the same about Tatum, over and over. He is a notorious choker in close games.

Perhaps but we are not getting rid of Tatum but we can easily get rid of Joe.

GrandTheftRondo · Post #152 » by **GrandTheftRondo** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:22 am

BK_2020 wrote:
fallguy wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:Basically the Warriors packed the paint and gave us open threes and we bricked 'em. Simple as.

Pretty easy way to beat the Celtics over four rounds if our only counter is shoot and hope.

Unless we have Porzingis who changes the entire geometry of the court for us. I'm not reading too much into tonight. We are 20-6. Tatum has been off for a couple weeks but his play usually picks up in the second half anyway.

Until the playoffs roll around and Tatum has an inevitable meltdown in at least one series.

He really needs to start playing like a superstar consistently.

His idol Kobe didnt play scared like he does

return2glory · Post #153 » by **return2glory** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:23 am

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:With Queta lessening the need for another big man they really need to go out and get someone who can hit three pointers. If they're going to take three-point shot at least have people who can make three-point shots consistently. But Mazzulla he is the number one issue here. The Celtics fot the most part are ready to win a championship, but not Missoula who still hasn't figured it out who still doesn't know how to properly use a time out, who lets 17-point leads evaporate in the third and fourth quarter. Who can't win overtime games. He is not ready to win a championship with this team and they need to dump him after the season.

3s isn't our problem. It's coaching in close games and choking in close games (Tatum and Brown mostly). This team is also soft. Joe refuses to play are tougher guys like Stevens, Queta and Brissett. Only reason Queta played 20 minutes tonight was because we didn't have KP and Kornet.

Pritchard, Hauser, White, Svi, KP and Al can all hit 3s. Tatum would be a 38-40% 3 point shooter if he didn't take all those step back 3s and side step 3s with someone hanging on him. His shot selection is questionable.

GrandTheftRondo · Post #154 » by **GrandTheftRondo** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:23 am

Memokerobi wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:Let's also not forget the Cs were doing load management with KP in this game.

If you want to be serious in winning every game, don't sit a player if he can play.

GSW does not win this game if KP played.

Idgaf about winning this game in December on a 4 game road trip if it jeopardizes KP’s health. The loss sucked ass but KP’s health is the most important factor for our title hopes. Be as conservative as you need to be

They should have done it against the Kings.

Beat the **** out of the Warriors. These guys have some demons they need to exorcise against them.

VeryMuchWoke · Post #155 » by **VeryMuchWoke** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:25 am

I don't care if we have to rebuild. I don't want to root for Jayson Tatum anymore.

PierceFan4ever · Post #156 » by **PierceFan4ever** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:25 am

Green89 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Remember everyone was so hyped to see Pierce and Cassell working with him on his post moves. We all got excited the first 10 or so games with a different JT but now he’s back in full force chucking at another level as of late.

Bar Fight · Post #157 » by **Bar Fight** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:25 am

Green89 wrote:

Read on Twitter

A lot of them are just horrible shots with defenders draped all over him. I'm convinced not even Steph would shoot very well on the type of threes this guy takes on the regular.

fallguy · Post #158 » by **fallguy** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:26 am

Read on Twitter

Uh.

return2glory · Post #159 » by **return2glory** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:26 am

playa-hater wrote:
return2glory wrote:
fallguy wrote:Nobody on this board can possibly think that Joe adds value in close and late games.

Can they?

I say the same about Tatum, over and over. He is a notorious choker in close games.

Perhaps but we are not getting rid of Tatum but we can easily get rid of Joe.

I want Tatum here. I just want him to pass more and drive to the basket and stop shooting dumb 3s.
Joe is staying, at least another year or two. If we are healthy and don't win a title this season, I felt the job should go to Sam.

Memokerobi · Post #160 » by **Memokerobi** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:27 am

Think Joe could have given Queta a bit more run there. He had a double double in 20 mins and a game high +10 for us. What’s the worst that could have happened? Couldn’t be worse than what happened with Horford out there.

I think this might be my biggest problem with Joe, more than timeouts or the reliance on the three ball.
Sometimes, the game dictates something else than you initially planned, so you go with it. Kerr didn’t plan to have Jackson-Davis in his closing 5, he had planned for Saric. But Jackson Davis was giving more this particular night so he went back to it.

Idk if its stubbornness or inexperience but I think its a big gap in Joe’s skillset.

What was most Ass-of-Shameful?