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Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19

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Terrible shot selection
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15%
Lack of aggressiveness
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11%
Defense not good enough
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5%
Tatum sucked
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38%
Another player sucked
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3%
I hate losing to the Warriors
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5%
TNT announcers made me want to rip my ears off
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2%
Other
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1%
Coach
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19%
Team
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Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#241 » by Fierce1 » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:23 pm

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ConstableGeneva wrote:So if this is the case, why do we keep putting him in a position where he has to guard them?

It's more of GSW forcing the Cs to put him in a position to guard them.

Who would you put out there?

Sam?

PP?

No, I don't mean replace him. Stash him in a corner. Pre-switch just so he's away from the play. Other teams do it. We've done it in past seasons. We have guards who can fight through screens and chase. Try something else other than Horford on a drop or in an island.

I think that's really one of the flaws of this Celtic defense.

This is Brad's system Joe is using.

Guess we're just going to have to live with it until Joe gets fired or the Cs end up winning a chip.
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Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#242 » by BK_2020 » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:25 pm

No one has figured out how to stop Curry. He's a top 10 player all-time if he didn't have Marc Jackson as his coach for the first 5 years of his career.
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Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#243 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:25 pm

Mazzulla: 58 3-pointers.

How is that even humanly possible?

When you have a front court advantage against the team and can get by on 15 three pointers against the Warriors especially when you can't make them and you're this close to fouling Curry out - instead of trying to foul Curry out ,you take another 23 3-pointers?

This is Mazzoula Dark Magic and it's got to go, the guy's an evil sorcerer I have had it, you can't keep pulling this crap, season after season, people can say people can argue that it's just one game it's one game this year one game next year one game the year before,one game...
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Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#244 » by Fierce1 » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:27 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Mazzulla: 58 3-pointers.

How is that even humanly possible?

When you have a front court advantage against the team and can get by on 15 three pointers against the Warriors especially when you can't make them and you're this close to fouling Curry out - instead of trying to foul Curry out ,you take another 23 3-pointers?

This is Mazzoula Dark Magic and it's got to go, the guy's an evil sorcerer I have had it, you can't keep pulling this crap, season after season, people can say people can argue that it's just one game it's one game this year one game next year one game the year before,one game...

Joe is gone after the 2025 season if the Cs still has not won a chip in 2024 and 2025.
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Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#245 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:29 pm

BK_2020 wrote:
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BK_2020 wrote:This. Bam scored 15 a game on bad efficiency on those shaky midrange prayers.

So if this is the case, why do we keep putting him in a position where he has to guard them?

Because they run sets with screens and DHOs that force a switch. The same reason why Jaylen kept getting Curry even though they tried to hide him on Hauser or Pritchard. You can try to cover for that by simply refusing to switch (like the Hawks do a lot with Trae) or trapping and scrambling (dangerous because Curry has one of the best handles ever) or peel switching (dangerous because Curry is so good at finding the open man) or just don't play Horford and put Lamar or Brissett in (dangerous because they are probably also getting beat and they are worse at other things) or whatever. I just don't see a straight forward solution to defending Curry. You can't take the ball out of his hands like you can with guys like Dame since he's so good at relocating and getting the ball back.

I'd rather we give up a two than a three. We gave up four threes in a span of two minutes. If they make a layup, so be it. Try to get the ball out of Curry's hands and be better at ball denial.

I know Horford is still decent in isolation perimeter defense, but this is Curry and Klay. We got to try something else. Or were we just hoping they miss?
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Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#246 » by Jammer » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:30 pm

Lay-off Tatum. The man rolled his ankle and played literally a whole game's worth of minutes immediately after.

Lay-off Al. Joe had no business leaving him out there 38 minutes.

Queta played great for 21 minutes. Joe should have given him another 7 NEAR THE END, and there would not have been Overtime.

Al was spent, demonstrated too often by the rebounds Al was near but couldn't secure. Joe was stupid, which is nothing new.
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Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#247 » by Fierce1 » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:30 pm

Let's not forget that Ime was the coach in the 2022 finals and Joe was the last season and this season.

Different coach same result.

It's not the coach, it's the players.
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Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#248 » by BK_2020 » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:33 pm

Hope they miss worked for the Warriors.

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Post#249 » by ThePigeon » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:37 pm

philing00 wrote:We need to get an energetic big to negate players like Jackson-Davies and Kuminga. Al and co are too slow, brissett too short.


Queta did a good job with his size and strength
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Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#250 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:40 pm

BK_2020 wrote:Hope they miss worked for the Warriors.

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Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#251 » by Fierce1 » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:46 pm

Bad idea for JB to be making that "too little" gesture to Steph.

I just don't get JB's thinking.
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Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#252 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:46 pm

Read on Twitter

He's in a lose-lose situation. They sit him after he sprains his ankle, people will call him soft for not fighting through the injury. He plays through the pain but doesn't deliver, people will say he should've just sat. (I'm among the former.)

Unfortunate that fans will remember this game and game 7 vs. the Heat over any other series/games where he DID deliver.

Having said that, I still have an issue with him settling for his pullup three which has been poop past two seasons lol.
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Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#253 » by Fierce1 » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:48 pm

JT will stop that pull-up 3 when he's 30 years old.

He's still 25, so there's still 5 years to go.

5 more years of misery. :lol:
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Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#254 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:50 pm

Fierce1 wrote:Bad idea for JB to be making that "too little" gesture to Steph.

I just don't get JB's thinking.

Had no real issue with it as long as he's able to back it up. 'Cos we all knew Steph wasn't done at that point. Him barrelling through Curry for an offensive foul, missing a bunny, and getting stuffed at the rim is not backing it up.
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Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#255 » by Parliament10 » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:52 pm

Really Bad End of Game Management.
This shouldn't have gone to OT. And it Damn sure shouldn't have been a Loss.

1 Good thing though, is that Queta filled in Nicely.
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Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#256 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:53 pm

Just would have been interesting to me if Mazzulla had called a timeout with 14 seconds left in the game, tie score and the Celtics having the ball.

Seems to me the Celtics would have gotten a lot better shot than the one they ended up with in that situation.
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Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#257 » by Fierce1 » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:55 pm

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Fierce1 wrote:Bad idea for JB to be making that "too little" gesture to Steph.

I just don't get JB's thinking.

Had no real issue with it as long as he's able to back it up. 'Cos we all knew Steph wasn't done at that point. Him barrelling through Curry for an offensive foul, missing a bunny, and getting stuffed at the rim is not backing it up.

Really???

JB doing stupid stuff like that is just being arrogant.

It's like yeah, Steph is too little and he has 4 championships and JB is big and ZERO championships!
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Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#258 » by Fierce1 » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:58 pm

Steph had the last laugh with that "night, night" gesture in the end.

JB didn't even go to the GSW players to shake their hands.

Lesson for JB is you disrespect the Orlando Magic, but never disrespect the true champions.
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Post#259 » by BK_2020 » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:59 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:Just would have been interesting to me if Mazzulla had called a timeout with 14 seconds left in the game, tie score and the Celtics having the ball.

Seems to me the Celtics would have gotten a lot better shot than the one they ended up with in that situation.

It would've been the same shot probably. It's not an ATO situation where you draw up a play for a shot since that gives Curry a chance to win it. So they probably inbound it then get it to Tatum who holds it for the final shot.
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Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#260 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:07 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:Just would have been interesting to me if Mazzulla had called a timeout with 14 seconds left in the game, tie score and the Celtics having the ball.

Seems to me the Celtics would have gotten a lot better shot than the one they ended up with in that situation.

Not the first time this has happened this season. Wolves game where JB missed a three before the buzzer.

If we do call a timeout, it will still be an iso where we make sure there's no time left on the clock when we attempt a shot. Don't want to leave even a second if we miss.

So really, it's up to Tatum (or whoever will take the final shot) to get a decent look with or without a timeout. Just so happens they're programmed to take a three in most of these situations.
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