Fantasy Trade Thread

[the_process]

I see.

Not looking to deal Grant.

What might PHI offer for just Brogdon?

Morris and two 2nds. I know you would not be interested in that.

It makes no sense for Portland to hold on to these guys. But whatever.

[the_process]

It would need to be a 3 way deal where for whatever reason the 3rd team doesn't want him... But I'd offer a star level package for Trey Murphy if he came on the market for whatever reason.

Perfect 3rd banana with what I think is all star level upside.

Another guy I'd love to steal out of NO: Dyson Daniels. I see him as an excellent partner for Maxey.

Daniels is a nice rotation piece with starter upside. I think Trey would be an immediate impact starter here with low level all star upside.

I agree with you on Trey. I just don’t see any way NO lets him go.

I think it would be easier to get Ingram from them, honestly.

[JRoy]

I see.

Not looking to deal Grant.

What might PHI offer for just Brogdon?

Philly doesn’t want Brogdon. He’s a negative contract. Portland will have to pay to unload him.

I'm sure he's not actually negative right now, as he's played very well. But Portland fans may not realize just how much of a concern his health/ injury history is to other teams. As many of us probably remember, those concerns were what caused the Clippers to pull back from facilitating a Porzingis trade with Boston and Washington-- they balked at taking back Brogdon. That, combined with his age (31, just at the beginng of what's usually a declining trajectory for guards) and the fact that he's still owed $22.5M next year), make him a big risk for any team that's trying to clear 2024 cap space. If Portland gets expirings for Brogdon, the other team might well decline to give a 1st rounder in return because they're taking all the risk.

Caruso would be a terrific but he but, too, has serious injury concerns. He just keeps getting hurt and missing time: toe, wrist, toe again, knee.... And he's under contract for next season, although a more affordable $9.9M.

Both Brogdon and Caruso would thus represent significant risks. I'd rank Caruso higher just b/c he makes less money. But either or both could wind up missing serious time at inconvenient periods.

Totally reasonable.

Can understand any team being reluctant to move quality trade assets for Brogdon. No reason for to move Brogdon for end of bench scrubs and SRP. It that is his market value, may as well keep him.

[HotelVitale]

Morey isn't that stupid as far as LaVine goes.

The Tyus Jones rumor doesn't really make sense either. Not saying I wouldn't want him here, but he's not looking to play just 12 minutes a night and he's a terrible fit if you try and pair him with Maxey for any length of time. I get looking at point guard options, but it'll have to be a bigger guard... Almost a combo guard (if that term still exists). If we didn't have Maxey, I'd be all about Tyus Jones, but it doesn't make sense from a size/fit perspective. Not on a Nick Nurse roster.

I agree. For the regular season it will be a welcomed addition, but in the play-offs we will be running 95% of our possessions through Embiid and Maxey. If we trade for a player, they have to be able play off those guys and improve/stabilize our defense.

Therefore I'd rather have a two-way wing player that can offer some secondary playmaking than a true PG who's undersized. A Gordon Hayward/Alex Caruso kind of player.

Caruso really isn't a two-way guy who can do secondary playmaking. He generally scores like 9 pts and 4-5 dimes per 36 and has no bag whatsoever in the half court. (Melton for reference is more like 15-16 and 4 dimes). Smart hustle guy who'd be good for any contender but he's definitely not going to help our offense.

I'd be happy if we got him but I do feel like we'd be in a tough spot on offense if he was the big addition. I'm a big Maxey believer but he scored less than 20 a game on 40% shooting against BOS, had a couple nice games but he was meh or bad in 4 of the 7. I don't think he can be the only non-Embiid threat on the offense.

[Stanford]

Wait until Morey finds out he has to negotiate with JRoy from the Realgm forum.

[JRoy]

I see.

Not looking to deal Grant.

What might PHI offer for just Brogdon?

Morris and two 2nds. I know you would not be interested in that.

It makes no sense for Portland to hold on to these guys. But whatever.

Having a few nba level players on your team seems a good idea so long as the young guys get their minutes.

[phifans]

Let's make it simple

Tobi + Martin +26 OKC first + 29 first pick swap + two 24 seconds for Grant + Thybulle

POR politely declines.

Thybulle is shooting close to 40% from 3 and giving POR defense we really need.

Grant is overpaid but is an effective offensive player and not awful on defense.

Got it ! How about Morris+Kork+House+26 OKC first + 28 first for Grant ?

[JRoy]

Let's make it simple

Tobi + Martin +26 OKC first + 29 first pick swap + two 24 seconds for Grant + Thybulle

POR politely declines.

Thybulle is shooting close to 40% from 3 and giving POR defense we really need.

Grant is overpaid but is an effective offensive player and not awful on defense.

Got it ! How about Morris+Kork+House+26 OKC first + 28 first for Grant ?

That sounds pretty good to me but not sure about the FO.

[the_process]

Let's make it simple

Tobi + Martin +26 OKC first + 29 first pick swap + two 24 seconds for Grant + Thybulle

POR politely declines.

Thybulle is shooting close to 40% from 3 and giving POR defense we really need.

Grant is overpaid but is an effective offensive player and not awful on defense.

Got it ! How about Morris+Kork+House+26 OKC first + 28 first for Grant ?

Absolutely not.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

This is tough...Two weeks ago I thought we had a legit chance to get Caruso from Chicago. I think the Bulls however, have turned a corner and he is a big reason why. I don't think he's even on the market at this time.

I also don't think teams like Brooklyn, Toronto, or Atlanta are bad enough to start selling. I like the idea of Spencer Dinwiddie here, we've talked in depth about Siakam and Anunoby, and I personally would love to see us somehow trade for De'Andre Hunter. His name has surfaced amongst trade rumors for the past two seasons now and at some point, Atlanta is going to move him to make room for Jalen Johnson and AJ Griffin.

This ultimately leaves Portland and Malcolm Brogdan as one of our limited potential options. We swing for Brogdan and shore up our guard position or we try and move on DeAndre Hunter. If there was a way we could get both of them, I'd call that a massive success and an early free agency Christmas present. Adding those two would be huge for us. Adding one would put in the conversation for the Finals. Those are my top picks along with Spencer Dinwiddie as a longshot.

[SixthStreet]

I'm keeping the cap into the offseason if the rumored guys and prices are as is. It's absurd to trade two FRP for Grant and that seems to be the most reasonable price out there. Although there's no reason for any of the sellers to lower their price right now, still awhile to the deadline.

In previous years real difference makers hit the market and multiple FRPs were exchanged. This deadlines targets are very mid and the prices are not reasonable.

[the_process]

Korkmaz to IND for a fake 2nd
House to ORL for a fake 2nd
ATL gets Joe Harris and Ivey
CHI gets Tobias
DET gets LaVine and Bey
PHI gets Hunter, Hayes, and Monte Morris

Maxey/Mo.Morris/Beverley
Hayes/Melton/Springer
Hunter/Oubre/Martin Jr.
Batum/Covington/Ma.Morris
Embiid/Reed/Bamba

[youngcrev]

Tobias is better than Hunter, and Killian wouldn't play on this team, let alone start.

Side bar... Quickley is too small to pair up with Maxey again at the NBA level, right?

[the_process]

Tobias is better than Hunter, and Killian wouldn't play on this team, let alone start.

Side bar... Quickley is too small to pair up with Maxey again at the NBA level, right?

Hayes fits the mold for what is needed next to Maxey.

Tobias is better right now. Still not the answer to anything. Hunter is a prototype sized wing who you hope can improve to replace Cov and Batum. Future move. This season is still not a thing regardless of how everyone wants to fool themselves otherwise.

If you're going after a Knick guard, let it be Grimes.

However, Durant is already whining in Phoenix. I'd be interested to know if you could rip him or preferably Booker out of there.

[Ben]

Tobias is better than Hunter, and Killian wouldn't play on this team, let alone start.

Side bar... Quickley is too small to pair up with Maxey again at the NBA level, right?

Hayes fits the mold for what is needed next to Maxey.

Tobias is better right now. Still not the answer to anything. Hunter is a prototype sized wing who you hope can improve to replace Cov and Batum. Future move. This season is still not a thing regardless of how everyone wants to fool themselves otherwise.

If you're going after a Knick guard, let it be Grimes.

However, Durant is already whining in Phoenix. I'd be interested to know if you could rip him or preferably Booker out of there.

Do you remember what Durant fetched in the last trade from BRK to PHO? The Sixers don't have anything remotely matching that haul.
And Booker, 27 years old, what do you think he'll bring on the open NBA market?

[youngcrev]

Tobias is better than Hunter, and Killian wouldn't play on this team, let alone start.

Side bar... Quickley is too small to pair up with Maxey again at the NBA level, right?

Hayes fits the mold for what is needed next to Maxey.

Tobias is better right now. Still not the answer to anything. Hunter is a prototype sized wing who you hope can improve to replace Cov and Batum. Future move. This season is still not a thing regardless of how everyone wants to fool themselves otherwise.

If you're going after a Knick guard, let it be Grimes.

However, Durant is already whining in Phoenix. I'd be interested to know if you could rip him or preferably Booker out of there.

A bad NBA player that can't shoot is not the mold I want next to Maxey!

I think whether this year a thing or not, they're not going to take steps back.

Anyway... I'm not completely against the idea of Hunter. Ultimately I think he's likely more of a traits guy, and one that hasn't been able to stay on the floor enough, but I'd be interested in seeing him away from Trae.

If we could get Hunter and something else for Tobias, I'd have some interest. But you'd probably need to do something else to address the 3rd option.

Edit:

Hurt again, I'd stay away

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[the_process]

Tobias is better than Hunter, and Killian wouldn't play on this team, let alone start.

Side bar... Quickley is too small to pair up with Maxey again at the NBA level, right?

Hayes fits the mold for what is needed next to Maxey.

Tobias is better right now. Still not the answer to anything. Hunter is a prototype sized wing who you hope can improve to replace Cov and Batum. Future move. This season is still not a thing regardless of how everyone wants to fool themselves otherwise.

If you're going after a Knick guard, let it be Grimes.

However, Durant is already whining in Phoenix. I'd be interested to know if you could rip him or preferably Booker out of there.

Do you remember what Durant fetched in the last trade from BRK to PHO? The Sixers don't have anything remotely matching that haul.

And Booker, 27 years old, what do you think he'll bring on the open NBA market?

So you don't even make the call then? Interesting.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I don't see Phoenix moving any of their big three until they see them all playing together. If they do, it'll be in the summer and I imagine it'll be a fire sale to push towards a rebuild.

[Ben]

Hayes fits the mold for what is needed next to Maxey.

Tobias is better right now. Still not the answer to anything. Hunter is a prototype sized wing who you hope can improve to replace Cov and Batum. Future move. This season is still not a thing regardless of how everyone wants to fool themselves otherwise.

If you're going after a Knick guard, let it be Grimes.

However, Durant is already whining in Phoenix. I'd be interested to know if you could rip him or preferably Booker out of there.

Do you remember what Durant fetched in the last trade from BRK to PHO? The Sixers don't have anything remotely matching that haul.

And Booker, 27 years old, what do you think he'll bring on the open NBA market?

So you don't even make the call then? Seems silly to me.

Just to put this in context, we're two powerless fans chatting on an internet forum, you're saying you'd like to acquire a superstar for scraps-- and then when I point out how unlikely it'd be, you act as if I'm costing the team something by not making a pretend phone call.

[ProcessDoctor]

Harris/Korkmaz/2026 OKC 1st/2028 LAC 1st/2030 PHI 1st/three 2nds for Durant.


Maxey/Beverley/Springer
Melton/Oubre/Council
Durant/Batum/House
Covington/Morris/Martin
Embiid/Reed/Bamba