76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1

[Sportfan73]

Think Murray should be the target if it doesn’t cost more than Tobias + 2 picks.

His cap hit is only 18m this year so more like Morris and 2 picks. I agree. Great fit as a third guy and next to maxey in the backcourt

[zaz102]

Agreed. I'd prefer a forward than a guard, but Murray's contract is good enough that you should be able to still put a really good guard or some decent role players there and build out a team.

[76ciology]

Murray would be useless against the Celts.

If there’s a weaklink on that Celts defense its at their 3,4&5 positions.

Celts isnt gonna send help when White or Jrue is defending Murray.

[Sportfan73]

Murray would be useless against the Celts.

If there’s a weaklink on that Celts defense its at their 3,4&5 positions.

Celts isnt gonna send help when White or Jrue is defending Murray.

Well the sad reality is this team looks like it wants to keep Tobias and add on top of that as opposed to upgrade the forward spot. And this is the type of deal that would do that. Embiid and maxey are going to be the difference vs the Celtics offensively one way or another

[zaz102]

Murray would be useless against the Celts.

If there’s a weaklink on that Celts defense its at their 3,4&5 positions.

Celts isnt gonna send help when White or Jrue is defending Murray.

Well the sad reality is this team looks like it wants to keep Tobias and add on top of that as opposed to upgrade the forward spot. And this is the type of deal that would do that. Embiid and maxey are going to be the difference vs the Celtics offensively one way or another

I don't think is that they want to keep Tobi, but its just who and how are you upgrading him?

OG, Siakim are your most likely options. Are they worth all your assets and then paying $40M+ per year vs. getting someone like Murray and adding role player at F?

At least Murray would potentially be taking away Jrue and White as help defenders. Would increase amount of time Embiid, Maxey, and Tobi go one on one.

[Sportfan73]

Murray would be useless against the Celts.

If there’s a weaklink on that Celts defense its at their 3,4&5 positions.

Celts isnt gonna send help when White or Jrue is defending Murray.

Well the sad reality is this team looks like it wants to keep Tobias and add on top of that as opposed to upgrade the forward spot. And this is the type of deal that would do that. Embiid and maxey are going to be the difference vs the Celtics offensively one way or another

I don't think is that they want to keep Tobi, but its just who and how are you upgrading him?

OG, Siakim are your most likely options. Are they worth all your assets and then paying $40M+ per year vs. getting someone like Murray and adding role player at F?

At least Murray would potentially be taking away Jrue and White as help defenders. Would increase amount of time Embiid, Maxey, and Tobi go one on one.

I should say they want to keep tobi unless the deal is for a star. And all reports say they much prefer to move Morris, cov, furk, house expiring money

[Negrodamus]

Between the stats and reading Hawks fans evaluation on him, it sounds like Murray’s defensive reputation is better than the actual defense. Hunts steals which exposes the defense when it fails. Seems like he’s been getting cooked fairly often this year.

I know we’re not trading for him for his offensive prowess.

[Sportfan73]

Between the stats and reading Hawks fans evaluation on him, it sounds like Murray’s defensive reputation is better than the actual defense. Hunts steals which exposes the defense when it fails. Seems like he’s been getting cooked fairly often this year.

I know we’re not trading for him for his offensive prowess.

Yeah I think IF we did make a deal for him the thought would be that him going to Atlanta next to Trae was basically the worst possible fit for him. And that in a number 3 type role of less offensive load he would be back to flourishing more defensively. Similar to an Aaron Gordon type move. Different positions and everything of course

[Negrodamus]

Between the stats and reading Hawks fans evaluation on him, it sounds like Murray’s defensive reputation is better than the actual defense. Hunts steals which exposes the defense when it fails. Seems like he’s been getting cooked fairly often this year.

I know we’re not trading for him for his offensive prowess.

Yeah I think IF we did make a deal for him the thought would be that him going to Atlanta next to Trae was basically the worst possible fit for him. And that in a number 3 type role of less offensive load he would be back to flourishing more defensively. Similar to an Aaron Gordon type move. Different positions and everything of course

Wasn’t his best season when he was “the guy” for San Antonio? His one on one defense seems to be just bad in general. More of a passing lanes defender which we already have. I will say his 3FG% is definitely encouraging this year which great volume. He wouldn’t be handed the same looks he gets with Young though.

[Murray_17]

Between the stats and reading Hawks fans evaluation on him, it sounds like Murray’s defensive reputation is better than the actual defense. Hunts steals which exposes the defense when it fails. Seems like he’s been getting cooked fairly often this year.

The Hawks are 27th in defensive rating and they had at least an average defense in the past with Trae there, so yeah, most likely Murray lives from his defensive reputation more than what he brings.

I will not trade for Dejounte alone, but if it's something like Tobias/some combination of expiring for Dejounte AND Bogdan i might do it.

[Sportfan73]

Between the stats and reading Hawks fans evaluation on him, it sounds like Murray’s defensive reputation is better than the actual defense. Hunts steals which exposes the defense when it fails. Seems like he’s been getting cooked fairly often this year.

I know we’re not trading for him for his offensive prowess.

Yeah I think IF we did make a deal for him the thought would be that him going to Atlanta next to Trae was basically the worst possible fit for him. And that in a number 3 type role of less offensive load he would be back to flourishing more defensively. Similar to an Aaron Gordon type move. Different positions and everything of course

Wasn’t his best season when he was “the guy” for San Antonio? His one on one defense seems to be just bad in general. More of a passing lanes defender which we already have. I will say his 3FG% is definitely encouraging this year which great volume. He wouldn’t be handed the same looks he gets with Young though.

id say he would get better looks here off of Joel and Tyreses gravity than off of trae. trae is drastically overrated. Atlanta was also really good with just Dejounte on the floor and no trae against Boston last playoffs where he averaged 23/7/7 on 45/38 from three on 7.5 a game

[elchengue20]

Trey Murphy ||| as an upgrade over Batum?

Hes an interesting 3+D long athletic wing with some offensive upside. Saw the Pels game last night and hes very underutilized there with Ingram, CJ and Zion playing hero ball and no defense, that team is a mess.

Dont know what they could ask for him tho.

[Sportfan73]

Trey Murphy ||| as an upgrade over Batum?

Hes an interesting 3+D long athletic wing with some offensive upside. Saw the Pels game last night and hes very underutilized there with Ingram, CJ and Zion playing hero ball and no defense, that team is a mess.

Dont know what they could ask for him tho.

They absolutely love him there, highly doubt he's anywhere near available

[Negrodamus]

I think Herb Jones would be the target, or Naji Marshall. They have a bunch of very talented 3/4 there. I just don’t think we’d have anything of interest to them.

[Jailblazers7]

Trey Murphy ||| as an upgrade over Batum?

Hes an interesting 3+D long athletic wing with some offensive upside. Saw the Pels game last night and hes very underutilized there with Ingram, CJ and Zion playing hero ball and no defense, that team is a mess.

Dont know what they could ask for him tho.

Only way Murphy gets traded is for a top 10 player similar to Bridges getting moved for Durant.

[zaz102]

Detroit wants some Tobias. What type of deal would you do straight up with them?

Bogdanovic / Ivey for Tobias and filler?

[SixthStreet]

Need someone who can be a role player when Embiid is playing 100% and can shift into a scorer when Embiid is not playing or not playing 100%.

We already have Oubre. Haha

[ProcessDoctor]

The All-Defense Trade Deadline:


Trade 1: Korkmaz/House/2026 OKC 1st/two 2nds for Caruso

Trade 2: Morris/2028 LAC 1st/2029 PHI 1st for Anunoby


Maxey/Melton/Beverley
Caruso/Oubre/Springer
Anunoby/Batum/Council
Harris/Covington/Martin
Embiid/Reed/Bamba

[the_process]

Detroit wants some Tobias. What type of deal would you do straight up with them?

Bogdanovic / Ivey for Tobias and filler?

Morey should definitely be looking to take advantage of the situation in Detroit.

[76ciology]

Murray would be useless against the Celts.

If there’s a weaklink on that Celts defense its at their 3,4&5 positions.

Celts isnt gonna send help when White or Jrue is defending Murray.

Well the sad reality is this team looks like it wants to keep Tobias and add on top of that as opposed to upgrade the forward spot. And this is the type of deal that would do that. Embiid and maxey are going to be the difference vs the Celtics offensively one way or another

I don't think is that they want to keep Tobi, but its just who and how are you upgrading him?

OG, Siakim are your most likely options. Are they worth all your assets and then paying $40M+ per year vs.getting someone like Murray and adding role player at F?

At least Murray would potentially be taking away Jrue and White as help defenders. Would increase amount of time Embiid, Maxey, and Tobi go one on one.

Hawks wont also give up Murray easily because they paid a lot to acquire him. Raps is almost certainly going to risk getting nothing for Siakam, all we have to do is letting Rico Hines (he’s close with him) and Nurse to do the recruiting for us (nobody wants to play for this team except for insider recruiting)

Murray is reduced to a guard who can’t shoot when Biid is playing. And Murray is going to be neutralized against Jrue and White. Atleast OG, or specially Siakam, can play the two man game with Maxey where OG or Siakam can score against the smaller defender.

Watch the 2nd half of the IST game of the Celts vs Raps game. Siakam defended from Jrue, Jaylen to their bigs and he was their go to guy down the stretch. If Biid is playing, he can focus more on defense and getting high % looks around the rim, transition or at mid range.