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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1401 » by zaz102 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:03 am

He's definitely a much better, albeit not great, 3 point shooter to your point. I would assume that will normalize a little.

Is there any where to see stats on number of catch and shoot vs. pull up 3 point attempts?
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Post#1402 » by M2J » Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:09 am

zaz102 wrote:He's definitely a much better, albeit not great, 3 point shooter to your point. I would assume that will normalize a little.

Is there any where to see stats on number of catch and shoot vs. pull up 3 point attempts?


https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1627783/shots-dash?Season=2022-23
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Post#1403 » by zaz102 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:22 am

M2J wrote:
zaz102 wrote:He's definitely a much better, albeit not great, 3 point shooter to your point. I would assume that will normalize a little.

Is there any where to see stats on number of catch and shoot vs. pull up 3 point attempts?


https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1627783/shots-dash?Season=2022-23
Thanks. I was wondering if that would shed some light, but it did not
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Post#1404 » by elchengue20 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:33 am

Siakam it's without a doubt a better player than Tobias.

The more clear thing is he's a better playmaker. That's one of our mayor needs, we need another secondary playmaker.

Also he's more reliable as a scorer, more versatile. As a defender neither is great, but i rather have Siakam who at least has more lenght and athleticism.

The issue with Siakam is his 3point shot is dead this season, that would kill us if stays the same here.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1405 » by ProcessDoctor » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:40 am

Harris/Reed/Korkmaz/three 1sts/three 2nds for Lauri/Olynyk/Clarkson


Maxey/Clarkson/Beverley
Melton/Oubre/Springer
Batum/Morris/House
Lauri/Covington/Martin
Embiid/Olynyk/Bamba
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Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Watford/Barlow/Walker
Embiid/Drummond/Bona/Broome
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Post#1406 » by SixthStreet » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:43 am

Bulls have seemed to be playing Pat Williams more after Levine went out and he’s producing. That ship has probably sailed. He would have been a nice piece against the Celtics.
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Post#1407 » by eyeatoma » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:52 am

ProcessDoctor wrote:Harris/Reed/Korkmaz/three 1sts/three 2nds for Lauri/Olynyk/Clarkson


Maxey/Clarkson/Beverley
Melton/Oubre/Springer
Batum/Morris/House
Lauri/Covington/Martin
Embiid/Olynyk/Bamba
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Post#1408 » by elchengue20 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:02 am

ProcessDoctor wrote:Harris/Reed/Korkmaz/three 1sts/three 2nds for Lauri/Olynyk/Clarkson


Maxey/Clarkson/Beverley
Melton/Oubre/Springer
Batum/Morris/House
Lauri/Covington/Martin
Embiid/Olynyk/Bamba


Probably you need to add a few pick swaps for Ainge to trade Lauri. Also Clarkson + Olynk has some value, they are not just fillers.

Lauri is the best player from the current group of stars on the trade block and is a good fit, would love to get him.
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Post#1409 » by Kobblehead » Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:13 pm

Markkanen is a vanity trade option, in my eyes. All he does is make the #1 regular season offense prettier.

Who does he guard in a playoff series against Boston? He can't defend Tatum or Brown. Embiid will already be defending whatever big is on the floor (whether that be Porzingis or Horford).

The only trade targets that make sense in my eyes are guys that are athletic forwards that can defend and hit threes off of Maxey and Embiid's gravity.

Jerami Grant
OG Anunoby
Jalen Johnson
Patrick Williams
Tari Eason

Guys like that.
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Post#1410 » by Sixerscan » Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:29 pm

Agreed and I also doubt Utah is serious about trading Markkanen anyway, they already have a million picks and they can give him a huge extension his summer with cap space a year before he hits free agency. He seems to want to be there which isn’t a given for them.

I think all the rumors were mostly just Ainge doing his thing where he injects his teams into trade rumors but will only actually do it if he rips someone off.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1411 » by zaz102 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:00 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Markkanen is a vanity trade option, in my eyes. All he does is make the #1 regular season offense prettier.

Who does he guard in a playoff series against Boston? He can't defend Tatum or Brown. Embiid will already be defending whatever big is on the floor (whether that be Porzingis or Horford).

The only trade targets that make sense in my eyes are guys that are athletic forwards that can defend and hit threes off of Maxey and Embiid's gravity.

Jerami Grant
OG Anunoby
Jalen Johnson
Patrick Williams
Tari Eason

Guys like that.
Good points, but to play devil's advocate, can OG provide the firepower needed to overcome Boston's defense. I didnt watch last night's game, but he only scored 12 points in a close game against them.

Grant seems like a decent option, but he's not elite on offense or defense like Matkkanen or OG. I wonder how he would fare.

Not sure how to make it work, but I think ideally they could get defensive stud (like OG) and add an offensive threat (like Bogdan). Grant and Brogdon seem like the most obvious, but obviously they're not necessarily perfect candidates.

There's different level options for these. Whether it's in the trade market or FA, I would look for these two types of guys.
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Post#1412 » by ProcessDoctor » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:03 pm

Harris/Korkmaz/Martin/2026 OKC 1st/two 2nds for Grant/Brogdon


Maxey/Brogdon/Beverley
Melton/Oubre/Springer
Batum/Morris/House
Grant/Covington/Lofton
Embiid/Reed/Bamba


Summer rolls around and you still have 1sts in 2024 (draft night), 2028 (own & LAC), 2029, 2030, and 2031 plus the contracts of Brogdon ($21 mil) and Grant ($30 mil) in case a superstar becomes available.
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Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Watford/Barlow/Walker
Embiid/Drummond/Bona/Broome
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Post#1413 » by Embiid P » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:04 pm

Barring something unforeseen over the next 5 weeks or so, it looks like the trade market will be mostly devoid of true superstar players. One can call Siakam a star, but a true superstar he is not.

Mind you, I don't necessarily believe that we need a star to get us over the hump but if I'm giving up valuable trade assets, I'd much rather it be for a star or star-in-the-making than a high end role player (i.e. OG).

Assuming we make no major moves before the deadline for that reason, and Morey has his sights set on acquiring a star i.e. Luka or LaMelo (not saying they'll be available, but let's just say they are hypothetically speaking) in the offseason, and we let all of our expiring contracts come off the books (Harris, Morris, Cov, Batum, etc.) without signing anyone would we be granted some sort of TPE to acquire such a player for salaries to match, or would it have to be done via sign-and-trade?
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1414 » by Sixerscan » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:09 pm

Embiid P wrote:Barring something unforeseen over the next 5 weeks or so, it looks like the trade market will be mostly devoid of true superstar players. One can call Siakam a star, but a true superstar he is not.

Mind you, I don't necessarily believe that we need a star to get us over the hump but if I'm giving up valuable trade assets, I'd much rather it be for a star or star-in-the-making than a high end role player (i.e. OG).

Assuming we make no major moves before the deadline for that reason, and Morey has his sights set on acquiring a star i.e. Luka or LaMelo (not saying they'll be available, but let's just say they are hypothetically speaking) in the offseason, and we let all of our expiring contracts come off the books (Harris, Morris, Cov, Batum, etc.) without signing anyone would we be granted some sort of TPE to acquire such a player for salaries to match, or would it have to be done via sign-and-trade?

You can just take someone into cap space if you have it. Matching salary only matters if you are over the cap.

Of course then you would have to renounce your cap holds on those guys, meaning you couldn’t go over the cap to sign them, just like if you used the space to sign a free agent.
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Post#1415 » by FireMorey » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:10 pm

Reports say Pistons will not trade Bojan unless they're totally blown away with a godfather offer. If true and he's off the table and Raptors want the world for Anunoby, it seems like a small trade at the deadline might be the best the Sixers should consider. Some guard who can score a little bit but more importantly handle the ball.
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Post#1416 » by FireMorey » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:20 pm

lol as I post that:

Read on Twitter


Probably takes them out of the running for Mitchell if he's traded(and he probably won't be).
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Post#1417 » by SixthStreet » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:23 pm

What’s George Hill up to these days? Lol
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Post#1418 » by ProcessDoctor » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:23 pm

Wish there was a feasible way to acquire Grant + Brogdon without giving up Harris.
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:

Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Watford/Barlow/Walker
Embiid/Drummond/Bona/Broome
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Post#1419 » by kriss73 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:24 pm

Two of the best targets (anouby e quickley) gone

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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1420 » by Embiid P » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:27 pm

FireMorey wrote:lol as I post that:

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Probably takes them out of the running for Mitchell if he's traded(and he probably won't be).


Damn. I hope they gave up a lot.

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