Fantasy Trade Thread

[the_process]

Outgoing: The least useful expirings (Morris, Covington, Furk, House) or Tobias if necessary, 3 1st round picks

Incoming: CJ McCollum and Trey Murphy

Trey is the long-term #3 next to Embiid/Maxey. The shooting/length/athleticism/age/upside/ego are perfect, and he's blocked by Zion/Ingram/Jones in the starting lineup. CJ is probably a negative value contract at his age/price (and certainly wouldn't be wanted by a rebuilding team), but he'd be a good fit, potentially as an elite 6th man.

The missing part: a star/superstar guard to become available to go to the Pelicans for a combination of what we send out plus more picks from them. Trae Young? Donovan Mitchell? LaMelo Ball?

This would be the Pels essentially punting on the rest of this season, which I don't think they're keen to do. Without CJ they would not have any proven veteran guards on their roster.

I think it's far more likely they ship Zion or Ingram out for even more picks, clear the logjam, and wait to see who the next star to ask out is.

However... maybe they will take Springer, Martin, and a 1st for Dyson Daniels? Doesn't really affect the now but gives them some more assets?

[youngcrev]

Outgoing: The least useful expirings (Morris, Covington, Furk, House) or Tobias if necessary, 3 1st round picks

Incoming: CJ McCollum and Trey Murphy

Trey is the long-term #3 next to Embiid/Maxey. The shooting/length/athleticism/age/upside/ego are perfect, and he's blocked by Zion/Ingram/Jones in the starting lineup. CJ is probably a negative value contract at his age/price (and certainly wouldn't be wanted by a rebuilding team), but he'd be a good fit, potentially as an elite 6th man.

The missing part: a star/superstar guard to become available to go to the Pelicans for a combination of what we send out plus more picks from them. Trae Young? Donovan Mitchell? LaMelo Ball?

This would be the Pels essentially punting on the rest of this season, which I don't think they're keen to do. Without CJ they would not have any proven veteran guards on their roster.

I think it's far more likely they ship Zion or Ingram out for even more picks, clear the logjam, and wait to see who the next star to ask out is.

However... maybe they will take Springer, Martin, and a 1st for Dyson Daniels? Doesn't really affect the now but gives them some more assets?

No it wouldn't, it would be a 3 team deal to get them a star guard.

[Kobblehead]

In-season trade for Patrick Williams and see how plays in the playoffs before considering extension.

[the_process]

Outgoing: The least useful expirings (Morris, Covington, Furk, House) or Tobias if necessary, 3 1st round picks

Incoming: CJ McCollum and Trey Murphy

Trey is the long-term #3 next to Embiid/Maxey. The shooting/length/athleticism/age/upside/ego are perfect, and he's blocked by Zion/Ingram/Jones in the starting lineup. CJ is probably a negative value contract at his age/price (and certainly wouldn't be wanted by a rebuilding team), but he'd be a good fit, potentially as an elite 6th man.

The missing part: a star/superstar guard to become available to go to the Pelicans for a combination of what we send out plus more picks from them. Trae Young? Donovan Mitchell? LaMelo Ball?

This would be the Pels essentially punting on the rest of this season, which I don't think they're keen to do. Without CJ they would not have any proven veteran guards on their roster.

I think it's far more likely they ship Zion or Ingram out for even more picks, clear the logjam, and wait to see who the next star to ask out is.

However... maybe they will take Springer, Martin, and a 1st for Dyson Daniels? Doesn't really affect the now but gives them some more assets?

No it wouldn't, it would be a 3 team deal to get them a star guard.

Ok so you're saying (for example):

3 PHI 1sts, 2 NOP 1sts, Tobias to ATL
Trae Young to NOP
Murphy and CJ to Philly

Yeah, I'd do that. If I'm NO, I'd still rather send out Ingram than Murphy, though. And they should be able to find a team who will give them three 1sts for Ingram.

[the_process]

In-season trade for Patrick Williams and see how plays in the playoffs before considering extension.

I think the Bulls will simply trade LaVine to the Lakers and otherwise stand pat. Their goal is (apparently) to be a play-in team, and they have clearly righted the ship since they sat LaVine, as evidenced by two wins over the Sixers in a week's time. So they are well on their way.

[Kobblehead]

I like Trey Murphy as an offensive fit. Low-maintenance, athletic, great shooter.

But I don't think he offers enough defensively for me to give up that kind of draft capital and be willing to commit to him essentially being our organizational 3rd banana.

If Nick Nurse can get P.J. Washington's jumpshot right, he'd be the kind of guy I'm willing to consider in that type of deal.

[youngcrev]

I like Trey Murphy as an offensive fit. Low-maintenance, athletic, great shooter.

But I don't think he offers enough defensively for me to give up that kind of draft capital and be willing to commit to him essentially being our organizational 3rd banana.

If Nick Nurse can get P.J. Washington's jumpshot right, he'd be the kind of guy I'm willing to consider in that type of deal.

You'd give up 3 1sts for PJ Washington? I'm not sure he's worth 1.

Solid role player if the jump shot comes back. I don't see much offensive upside in general to his game

[Kobblehead]

I like Trey Murphy as an offensive fit. Low-maintenance, athletic, great shooter.

But I don't think he offers enough defensively for me to give up that kind of draft capital and be willing to commit to him essentially being our organizational 3rd banana.

If Nick Nurse can get P.J. Washington's jumpshot right, he'd be the kind of guy I'm willing to consider in that type of deal.

You'd give up 3 1sts for PJ Washington? I'm not sure he's worth 1.

Solid role player if the jump shot comes back. I don't see much offensive upside in general to his game

Well, no. Giving up multiple 1st should only be reserved for stars.

I'm just saying, in identifying a building block player, I'm going to want more of a complete player as opposed to a one dimensional spacer.

[Kolkmania]

Trades are hard and highly unlikely to occur since both teams have to like the assets they acquire, fit with their strategy and make the money work. However, I have a feeling we're targeting Dejounte Murray and there might be a framework possible that meets the desires from both teams. He's tradeable after 5th of January since he signed a relatively team friendly extension.

The pairing with Trae Young has failed because he's not capable of carrying that team to an acceptable defense, while keeping the offense afloat. He's a good on ball defender when he's locked in and obviously capable of creating havoc/turnovers. However his off ball defense has been really disappointing. Offensively he's been fine, but you're wasting his playmaking/shot creation skills next to Young.

We need more shot creation/playmaking skills a point of attack defender and with Embiid, we can swallow some of the off ball mistakes Murray makes.

Hawks basically paid two 1st round picks and a swap for Murray. If they can recoup close to that value they can reconstruct their roster to fit better with Young. We have the picks and expiring contracts to clear up their books a bit. The money works with just Marcus Morris, but there's also the possibility to include Hunter and get a little bit more fancy.

With Jalen Johnson, Bey and Griffin they have forwards who are young and fit with Young. Hunter's contract is a bit hefty and his skillset is redundant with the three forwards I mentioned. Trading Murray and Hunter for Harris and Springer could be a solution for both parties. We get a forward who has some athleticism and with a long term contract (Oubre, Morris, RoCo, Harris and Batum are all on expiring contracts) that can either be used in a future trade or we can simply play him and see how he performs in a simplified 3&D role.

Harris is an expiring contract who could potentially be signed to a team friendly contract this summer and is a veteran that might be helpful in their locker room. Springer is a promising point of attack defender who can play off Young on offense.

So something like Murray, Hunter for Harris, Springer, worst HOU/OKC/LAC '26 pick, LAC '29 pick swap. PHI '30 pick.

[Negrodamus]

Is there a reason Murray is being shopped? I get the intrigue of him, but he'd have to go back to SAS days to be worth making a trade for him since he's clearly not solving any defensive issues the Hawks have. Is his offense that good to where he can run the show whenever Maxey or Embiid are out and give us a decent chance at winning?

[LeonJordanJr24]

Lavine and D. Mitchell are those guys.

[youngcrev]

Is there a reason Murray is being shopped? I get the intrigue of him, but he'd have to go back to SAS days to be worth making a trade for him since he's clearly not solving any defensive issues the Hawks have. Is his offense that good to where he can run the show whenever Maxey or Embiid are out and give us a decent chance at winning?

Bad fit with Trae? I always thought it was a weird guy for them to trade for. They play the same position and both need the ball.

I don't love his fit here either. He's not much of an off ball threat, even if he is having a solid shooting season at the moment.

[PhillyFan11]

Sixers out- Tobi, RoCo, Springer, ‘26 OKC 1st, ‘28 Phil 1st, and ‘24 2nd
Sixers in- Grant and Wiggins

Warriors out- Wiggins and Paul
Warriors in- Tobi and RoCo

Blazers out- Grant
Blazers in- Paul, Springer, ‘26 OKC 1st, ‘28 Phil 1st, and ‘24 2nd

Would be committed to a Maxey-?-Wiggins-Grant-Jo lineup for a couple of years…but I think that could be a deadly lineup with the right guard

[youngcrev]

Sixers out- Tobi, RoCo, Springer, ‘26 OKC 1st, ‘28 Phil 1st, and ‘24 2nd
Sixers in- Grant and Wiggins

Warriors out- Wiggins and Paul
Warriors in- Tobi and RoCo

Blazers out- Grant
Blazers in- Paul, Springer, ‘26 OKC 1st, ‘28 Phil 1st, and ‘24 2nd

Would be committed to a Maxey-?-Wiggins-Grant-Jo lineup for a couple of years…but I think that could be a deadly lineup with the right guard

If the Warriors would do that, I think I'd just stop there. Not giving up 2 1sts for Grant on that contract.

[the_process]

Sixers out- Tobi, RoCo, Springer, ‘26 OKC 1st, ‘28 Phil 1st, and ‘24 2nd
Sixers in- Grant and Wiggins

Warriors out- Wiggins and Paul
Warriors in- Tobi and RoCo

Blazers out- Grant
Blazers in- Paul, Springer, ‘26 OKC 1st, ‘28 Phil 1st, and ‘24 2nd

Would be committed to a Maxey-?-Wiggins-Grant-Jo lineup for a couple of years…but I think that could be a deadly lineup with the right guard

If the Warriors would do that, I think I'd just stop there. Not giving up 2 1sts for Grant on that contract.

Bingo.

[PhillyFan11]

Sixers out- Tobi, RoCo, Springer, ‘26 OKC 1st, ‘28 Phil 1st, and ‘24 2nd
Sixers in- Grant and Wiggins

Warriors out- Wiggins and Paul
Warriors in- Tobi and RoCo

Blazers out- Grant
Blazers in- Paul, Springer, ‘26 OKC 1st, ‘28 Phil 1st, and ‘24 2nd

Would be committed to a Maxey-?-Wiggins-Grant-Jo lineup for a couple of years…but I think that could be a deadly lineup with the right guard

If the Warriors would do that, I think I'd just stop there. Not giving up 2 1sts for Grant on that contract.

Bingo.

After the next round of max contracts are given out this off-season Grant’s contract will look reasonable and fair

[the_process]

Sixers out- Tobi, RoCo, Springer, ‘26 OKC 1st, ‘28 Phil 1st, and ‘24 2nd
Sixers in- Grant and Wiggins

Warriors out- Wiggins and Paul
Warriors in- Tobi and RoCo

Blazers out- Grant
Blazers in- Paul, Springer, ‘26 OKC 1st, ‘28 Phil 1st, and ‘24 2nd

Would be committed to a Maxey-?-Wiggins-Grant-Jo lineup for a couple of years…but I think that could be a deadly lineup with the right guard

Prefer to keep Cov. Maybe Kork, House, and the 26 OKC 1st instead.

No shot to two firsts for Grant.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Would we have the ammo to get Brandon Ingram from New Orleans? They are running out of time for that situation to work over there. Trey Murphy (another player I'd love to trade for) is ready to take his spot in the starting lineup. Zion is wishy washy as usual and could also get moved at some point. The pairing between Ingram and Zion hasn't really worked. I think Ingram would be a perfect fit with us here, but it would take a lot of ammo to get him.

[Negrodamus]

Would we have the ammo to get Brandon Ingram from New Orleans? They are running out of time for that situation to work over there. Trey Murphy (another player I'd love to trade for) is ready to take his spot in the starting lineup. Zion is wishy washy as usual and could also get moved at some point. The pairing between Ingram and Zion hasn't really worked. I think Ingram would be a perfect fit with us here, but it would take a lot of ammo to get him.

It's a tough situation imo. My hesitancy on Ingram's value and impact aside, I think it'll be a tough sell on the New Orleans side. Seems like Zion is one foot out the door and will ask for a trade soon and also is an injury risk since he can't keep his weight down. So having Ingram is really insurance if the Zion experiment fails.

If I'm the Pelicans, I'd only consider trading Ingram for a legit point guard. Obviously I felt they should have gotten involved in the Harden conversation so they can maximize Zion's ability to get downhill.

As it pertains to the Sixers, it makes sense that Ingram would fit here since he is a distributor and scorer. Has been kinda mediocre to bad on defense and he doesn't take the most efficient shots. Also not sure if it'll cause an issue moving Maxey off ball more often.

Also, doesn't the Pelican's still have picks from the AD trade? Do they even value draft picks right now?

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Would we have the ammo to get Brandon Ingram from New Orleans? They are running out of time for that situation to work over there. Trey Murphy (another player I'd love to trade for) is ready to take his spot in the starting lineup. Zion is wishy washy as usual and could also get moved at some point. The pairing between Ingram and Zion hasn't really worked. I think Ingram would be a perfect fit with us here, but it would take a lot of ammo to get him.

It's a tough situation imo. My hesitancy on Ingram's value and impact aside, I think it'll be a tough sell on the New Orleans side. Seems like Zion is one foot out the door and will ask for a trade soon and also is an injury risk since he can't keep his weight down. So having Ingram is really insurance if the Zion experiment fails.

If I'm the Pelicans, I'd only consider trading Ingram for a legit point guard. Obviously I felt they should have gotten involved in the Harden conversation so they can maximize Zion's ability to get downhill.

As it pertains to the Sixers, it makes sense that Ingram would fit here since he is a distributor and scorer. Has been kinda mediocre to bad on defense and he doesn't take the most efficient shots. Also not sure if it'll cause an issue moving Maxey off ball more often.

Also, doesn't the Pelican's still have picks from the AD trade? Do they even value draft picks right now?

Good points, and yeah, I'm not sure they value draft picks at this point. The entire team has been organically built outside of CJ McCollum and Ingram (whom they've had since he was 22). If anything, like you said, I could see them dealing their draft picks and a young asset like Dyson Daniels or even Murphy in hope of netting a star player to combine with Ingram and Zion.

The issues with Zion are also very real. I could see him being traded before Ingram. I think ultimately they're going to have to pick one.