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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#41 » by WeLikeOurGuys » Wed Jan 3, 2024 3:37 am

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WeLikeOurGuys wrote:Game flipped when Tatum decided to guard SGA, but the stretch to start the 4th really did them in.

I guess you didn't watch the 3rd quarter.

In fairness I never expect them to have a good 3rd quarter lol.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#42 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Jan 3, 2024 3:39 am

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KamikazeK wrote:Lame performance tonight. This team continues to struggle on the road. It's a good thing they're undefeated at home because if they were losing games in Boston too then their record would be in trouble.


You know we're tied for the most wins on the road in the entire league, right?

Yep, best at home, best on the road coming into this game. We got outclassed. Tip your hat to OKC and move on.

15-2 when our starting five plays. Average of 3.5 pts margin of defeat. If refs caught Embiid stepping on the line and if Porzingis didn't step on the line, we might be 17-0.

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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#43 » by jumblin » Wed Jan 3, 2024 3:39 am

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fallguy wrote:Time to stop pretending White is anything less than our third best player.

Most consistent role player in the history of the league.


Jaylen is expendable.


More than expendable, they would be a better team if they traded JB for solid role players and picks. JB's low BBIQ has reared its ugly head too many times.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#44 » by PierceFan4ever » Wed Jan 3, 2024 3:40 am

Anyone think Holiday is not much of an upgrade over Smart? Maybe slightly better? Idk

Porzingis is obviously a huge difference maker, along with white turning super saiyan, and then you have Hauser and PP playing better this season. But I personally don’t think Holiday is bringing a huge impact like the media likes to mention.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#45 » by KillahGhostface » Wed Jan 3, 2024 3:40 am

GrandTheftRondo wrote:Firstly, OKC are really good, may be scary good in a year or two, the Clippers have basically gifted them a potential dynasty. Shai, J-Dub and Chet may well be a better big 3 than KD, Harden and Russ.

Defence was absolutely awful in this one until late. Holiday looked lost on both ends. Tatum on SGA really changed things.

Brown was awful. Tatum got going a bit late but he simply didn’t assert his authority on a game like an MVP level player should. SGA did in the third and it won them the game.

You just have to laugh at some of the shots Giddey was making. Certainly isn’t his thing at all usually.

Good to see Joe actually had the balls to bench a starter late in Holiday. Smart played late far too many times in the last two seasons when Derrick White should have been in.

I’m glad these guys are in the West because I’m seriously convinced they could give any team in the league serious issues in a 7 game series


Shai had 36/6/7 on 22 shots, Tatum had 30/13/8, and shut down SGA in the 4th. That feels like the definition of asserting authority like an MVP should, but what do I know.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#46 » by Shak_Celts » Wed Jan 3, 2024 3:40 am

At least the gang can get back together now that brown played and shot like poo. that's the only good part about this loss.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#47 » by KillahGhostface » Wed Jan 3, 2024 3:40 am

PierceFan4ever wrote:Anyone think Holiday is not much of an upgrade over Smart? Maybe slightly better? Idk

Porzingis is obviously a huge difference maker, along with white turning super saiyan, and then you have Hauser and PP playing better this season. But I personally don’t think Holiday is bringing a huge impact like the media likes to mention.


Holiday is a sizable upgrade on Smart. He just had a stinker tonight, it happens.
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Post#48 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Jan 3, 2024 3:41 am

KillahGhostface wrote:Jaylen had a rough game, it happens. Not going to read any further into it, he just can’t get tunnel vision like tonight against the best teams.

What happened to you? You've gotten soft in your advanced, post-ban age.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#49 » by Sweet Serenity » Wed Jan 3, 2024 3:41 am

playa-hater wrote:Jrue had his worst game by far since wearing Celtic Green and Brown was just as bad. But we only lost by 4... Am I doing this right??

But truth is I don't trust Joe in a close playoff series deep in the playoffs.

Sorry.. Not sorry.


We were down by 18 with half a quarter left & almost came back to win & thats one of your main takeaways ?

Some of you posters are pathetic when it comes to your analysis on Joe.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#50 » by SuperDeluxe » Wed Jan 3, 2024 3:41 am

PierceFan4ever wrote:Anyone think Holiday is not much of an upgrade over Smart? Maybe slightly better? Idk

Porzingis is obviously a huge difference maker, along with white turning super saiyan, and then you have Hauser and PP playing better this season. But I personally don’t think Holiday is bringing a huge impact like the media likes to mention.

Let's be serious. He had a crappy game tonight but he's been awesome.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#51 » by GrandTheftRondo » Wed Jan 3, 2024 3:42 am

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GrandTheftRondo wrote:Firstly, OKC are really good, may be scary good in a year or two, the Clippers have basically gifted them a potential dynasty. Shai, J-Dub and Chet may well be a better big 3 than KD, Harden and Russ.

Defence was absolutely awful in this one until late. Holiday looked lost on both ends. Tatum on SGA really changed things.

Brown was awful. Tatum got going a bit late but he simply didn’t assert his authority on a game like an MVP level player should. SGA did in the third and it won them the game.

You just have to laugh at some of the shots Giddey was making. Certainly isn’t his thing at all usually.

Good to see Joe actually had the balls to bench a starter late in Holiday. Smart played late far too many times in the last two seasons when Derrick White should have been in.

I’m glad these guys are in the West because I’m seriously convinced they could give any team in the league serious issues in a 7 game series


Shai had 36/6/7 on 22 shots, Tatum had 30/13/8, and shut down SGA in the 4th. That feels like the definition of asserting authority like an MVP should, but what do I know.

SGA got them out to a big lead in the third and we never recovered from it.

As I said in the game thread I don’t think Tatum is playing anywhere close to what he should be currently.

Yes he was very good defensively late but it was too little too late.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#52 » by itrsteve » Wed Jan 3, 2024 3:42 am

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fallguy wrote:Time to stop pretending White is anything less than our third best player.


I’ve said it 30 times. At any given time, White is our second best player and our first is a three-seat game of musical chairs on any given night. But D White always brings it, no off nights.


Our first is absolutely not a three seat game of musical chairs lol.


The hell it isn’t. Rewind through any of our games, you’ll have one of JT, JB or KP having a standout game and one of the others a pumpkin.

I somewhat consider it a luxury but still a double edged sword that we don’t have a #1 go-to night in and out.

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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#53 » by JaMarco » Wed Jan 3, 2024 3:42 am

Hard to beat a team that shoots 45% from 3. Some of that was bad defense though.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#54 » by jfs1000d » Wed Jan 3, 2024 3:42 am

Boy that team can shoot. We did what we could, beat them up inside. Just can’t allow them to have a third q run like that.


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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#55 » by KillahGhostface » Wed Jan 3, 2024 3:42 am

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ConstableGeneva wrote:Most consistent role player in the history of the league.


Jaylen is expendable.


More than expendable, they would be a better team if they traded JB for solid role players and picks. JB's low BBIQ has reared its ugly head too many times.


We just need Jaylen to play like he has the past 6 weeks.

One game shouldn’t ruin that lol.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#56 » by Jammer » Wed Jan 3, 2024 3:43 am

Jammer wrote:What makes this SAD is that the Celtics got their a*sses whooped a year ago in OKC, minus SGA, so today should have been vindication day.

Instead, it's an affirmation that OKC is the better team, since they repeated their beatdown for most of the game, even though the Celtics mounted a furious fourth quarter comeback to narrow the 18 point lead down to 2 before losing by 4.

Even though the refs swallowed their whistles tonight and allowed the Celtics to be abused by OKC's defenders while cutting them very little slack of their own, My biggest problem today is with the coaching philosophy the Celtics employed on offense and defense. Not creative, and not appropriate for this opponent. Of course, Brown had a putrid game, which certainly didn't help any. But the Celtics defensive schemes were consistently foiled not just by great OKC shooting but by poor tactics.

Well, time to see who can bring their A game on demand, and who the fakers are:

An alternative perspective:

Pts. + Rebounds + (0.5 x Assists) + Steals + (0.5 x Blocks) - Missed FGs - (0.5 x Missed Free Throws) - Turnovers - (0.5 x Fouls)

+38.5 Kristaps Porzingis 35 minutes
+30.5 Jayson Tatum 38 minutes


+18.5 Derrick White 28 minutes
+12 Al Horford 20 minutes

+8.5 Payton Pritchard 25 minutes
+6.5 Jrue Holiday 31 minutes
+6 Sam Hauser 10 minutes

+2.5 Jaylen Brown 38 minutes absolute puke
+1.5 Luke Kornet 15 minutes useless tonight

Team Total = 124.5


Looking at this I ask myself why didn't Hauser get some of Jaylen's minutes. It would have been the right thing to do.

And Kornet was useless tonight. Could have used someone else in his place. This is called IN-GAME Management, which Joe is abysmal at.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#57 » by Ben-N1ce » Wed Jan 3, 2024 3:43 am

PierceFan4ever wrote:Anyone think Holiday is not much of an upgrade over Smart? Maybe slightly better? Idk

Porzingis is obviously a huge difference maker, along with white turning super saiyan, and then you have Hauser and PP playing better this season. But I personally don’t think Holiday is bringing a huge impact like the media likes to mention.

Hasn't been great of offense but Smart is back to 30% from 3. That's what he is with no offensive upside. That being said I'm not sure what Jrue has been so meh on offense pretty much all year.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#58 » by GrandTheftRondo » Wed Jan 3, 2024 3:43 am

PierceFan4ever wrote:Anyone think Holiday is not much of an upgrade over Smart? Maybe slightly better? Idk

Porzingis is obviously a huge difference maker, along with white turning super saiyan, and then you have Hauser and PP playing better this season. But I personally don’t think Holiday is bringing a huge impact like the media likes to mention.

lol come on.

He was completely off tonight but he’s been great all season.

Sometimes people just have an off night.

I think I saw Smart get murdered defensively like that last season in at least 10-15 games.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#59 » by jfs1000d » Wed Jan 3, 2024 3:43 am

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itrsteve wrote:
I’ve said it 30 times. At any given time, White is our second best player and our first is a three-seat game of musical chairs on any given night. But D White always brings it, no off nights.


Our first is absolutely not a three seat game of musical chairs lol.


The hell it isn’t. Rewind through any of our games, you’ll have one of JT, JB or KP having a standout game and one of the others a pumpkin.

I somewhat consider it a luxury but still a double edged sword that we don’t have a #1 go-to night in and out.

D White is our rock

Tatum is go to. Let him make the right plays. Stop asking him to take Kobe hero shots .

Tatum had 30, 13 and eight assists. Defense late was terrific. Give him credit.


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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#60 » by GoCeltics123 » Wed Jan 3, 2024 3:44 am

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playa-hater wrote:Jrue had his worst game by far since wearing Celtic Green and Brown was just as bad. But we only lost by 4... Am I doing this right??

But truth is I don't trust Joe in a close playoff series deep in the playoffs.

Sorry.. Not sorry.

I don't either but like...this is the game you pick? Lmao like come on man common sense here

He doesn't bench Jrue when he did, this team loses by 25 tonight


That was a sign of "Accountability" I have been screaming for. Problem is it's Tatum and Brown who get away with murder..

You don't bench Tatum unless you're giving up. Brown maybe but who are you putting in? It's not like Al or Hauser was popping off

Kornet/Horford lineups didn't work, Joe benching Jrue was good. Joe was fine tonight. They lost because Jaylen and Jrue

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