Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET)

[ConstableGeneva]

It might take a while before they convert Queta to a standard contract if that is the plan. Limit for two-way contracts is 50 active games with the mother team. He's only been active in 20, per BBRef. That way, they keep the 15th roster spot open and maintain flexibility (or they could also waive one of their NGs before Jan 7).

I'm not saying I'm Brad Stevens. I'm not saying I'm not Brad Stevens either.

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Ie, it's not about Queta at all it's about if the team makes any...

...TRADES!!!!

heehee.

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Bey or Otto Porter Jr. ...possibly Cedi Osman or Simone Fontecchio.

Osman though makes a little too much $ to fit in the Grant TPE. If you're gonna pay more to get a player, ideally it's a guy who isn't on an expiring contract, which Osman is on.

Fontecchio is an intriguing option. Perhaps too similar to Hauser? But Fontecchio I think is a little bit more skilled with ball handling, passing, creating off the bounce, a little more athleticism. Also, Fontecchio doesn't have any playoff experience, whereas the other 3 guys do..

[zoyathedestroya]

Doesn’t seem like they’re thinking about 5-for-1 trades (which could open up more roster spots) if they’re talking about keeping flexibility with that 15th roster spot.

[Celts17Pride]

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Brad looking for another big wing, we are on the same page!

Going to be tough though. Not a lot of good options for what the Celtics could trade.

I still think PJ Tucker is an option if he gets bought out. Not in love with him but he fits the description.

[zoyathedestroya]

For a potential 9th or even 10th guy on the rotation, playoff experience is overrated imo.

Payton II and Braun had zero playoff experience as 8th men on title teams playoff rotation. Portis had logged just over 100 playoff minutes before becoming the Bucks title team 7th man.

Top 6 should carry. 7th to 9th guys just need to not stink so bad in their limited minutes to get in the way of winning.

[snowman]

Svi Mykhailiuk
26 year old, 6-7, 205 lb SF from Kansas
1.8 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 0.4 apg in 7.6 minutes in 2023-2024
Boston's unprotected 2024 1st round pick (currently #30)

for

Saddiq Bey
24 year old, 6-7, 215 lb F from Villanova
12.8 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 1.3 apg in 32.3 minutes in 2023-2024
Traded into 6.2 million TPE created by Grant Williams trade.

Why for Atlanta:
They may lose Bey for nothing or have possibly sign him long term to a contract they don't want to keep him this offseason. With this trade they get a shooter that is not getting minutes from Boston and a 1st round pick (although currently #30) they may be able to help flip into Siakam from Tronto.

Why for Boston:
Boston should have taken Bey in the draft instead of Nesmith, but they didn't. Bey gives them a better shooter than what Svi has proven to be and are able to flip a late 1st round pick and the guaranteed salary that comes with it for Bey, who could fit into their long-term plans better. Bey would be a better backup to Tatum and Brown as a all-round scorer off the bench than anyone on the team now, including Hauser. However, a bench of Pritchard, Bey, Hauser, Brissett and Horford is as good as some starting lineups in the league. Also, we all know how much Brad hates first round picks. LOL If Boston decided that Bey's asking price is too much to resign him, then sign and trade him to recoup what you can.

[Dogen]

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Bey or Otto Porter Jr. ...possibly Cedi Osman or Simone Fontecchio.

Osman though makes a little too much $ to fit in the Grant TPE. If you're gonna pay more to get a player, ideally it's a guy who isn't on an expiring contract, which Osman is on.

Fontecchio is an intriguing option. Perhaps too similar to Hauser? But Fontecchio I think is a little bit more skilled with ball handling, passing, creating off the bounce, a little more athleticism. Also, Fontecchio doesn't have any playoff experience, whereas the other 3 guys do..

I'm not cray cray about Bey Bey, but if he was available for the Grant TPE, he'd be a decent pickup for a wing with size. We could use the depth. Not sure what this means about Hauser tho; neither of those two guys is a great defender, but Bey is a decent rebounder and you can never have too much shooting.

[BK_2020]

Svi Mykhailiuk
26 year old, 6-7, 205 lb SF from Kansas
1.8 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 0.4 apg in 7.6 minutes in 2023-2024
Boston's unprotected 2024 1st round pick (currently #30)

for

Saddiq Bey
24 year old, 6-7, 215 lb F from Villanova
12.8 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 1.3 apg in 32.3 minutes in 2023-2024
Traded into 6.2 million TPE created by Grant Williams trade.

Why for Atlanta:
They may lose Bey for nothing or have possibly sign him long term to a contract they don't want to keep him this offseason. With this trade they get a shooter that is not getting minutes from Boston and a 1st round pick (although currently #30) they may be able to help flip into Siakam from Tronto.

Why for Boston:
Boston should have taken Bey in the draft instead of Nesmith, but they didn't. Bey gives them a better shooter than what Svi has proven to be and are able to flip a late 1st round pick and the guaranteed salary that comes with it for Bey, who could fit into their long-term plans better. Bey would be a better backup to Tatum and Brown as a all-round scorer off the bench than anyone on the team now, including Hauser. However, a bench of Pritchard, Bey, Hauser, Brissett and Horford is as good as some starting lineups in the league. Also, we all know how much Brad hates first round picks. LOL If Boston decided that Bey's asking price is too much to resign him, then sign and trade him to recoup what you can.

Atlanta is most likely non-tendering him as Bey taking the QO would be disastrous. I don't think they worry about losing him for nothing.

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[Dogen]

Svi Mykhailiuk
26 year old, 6-7, 205 lb SF from Kansas
1.8 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 0.4 apg in 7.6 minutes in 2023-2024
Boston's unprotected 2024 1st round pick (currently #30)

for

Saddiq Bey
24 year old, 6-7, 215 lb F from Villanova
12.8 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 1.3 apg in 32.3 minutes in 2023-2024
Traded into 6.2 million TPE created by Grant Williams trade.

Why for Atlanta:
They may lose Bey for nothing or have possibly sign him long term to a contract they don't want to keep him this offseason. With this trade they get a shooter that is not getting minutes from Boston and a 1st round pick (although currently #30) they may be able to help flip into Siakam from Tronto.

Why for Boston:
Boston should have taken Bey in the draft instead of Nesmith, but they didn't. Bey gives them a better shooter than what Svi has proven to be and are able to flip a late 1st round pick and the guaranteed salary that comes with it for Bey, who could fit into their long-term plans better. Bey would be a better backup to Tatum and Brown as a all-round scorer off the bench than anyone on the team now, including Hauser. However, a bench of Pritchard, Bey, Hauser, Brissett and Horford is as good as some starting lineups in the league. Also, we all know how much Brad hates first round picks. LOL If Boston decided that Bey's asking price is too much to resign him, then sign and trade him to recoup what you can.

They should have traded up for Haliburton, or taken Maxey.

That bench of Pritchard, Bey, Hauser, Brissett and Horford is not great defensively in the backcourt. I doubt that unit would actually play at the same time.

BUT, Bey is an upgrade over Svi, so moving a much maligned 1st (30th) and Svi could be a significant upgrade for this year when it really counts.

My understanding is that the TPE can't be combined with other players, so I don't think this works. They can trade TPE for Bey and include future picks, then Svi is unguaranteed, so Celtics can keep him or let him go. I need to be fact checked tho.

[zoyathedestroya]

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This "that player might be on the team already" stuff has me curious. Perhaps we'll see Lamar finally get a chance at some consistent playing time? Maybe it's Brissett? Maybe it's Walsh? Banton? Peterson?

There's a month until the trade deadline. Perhaps we will see 1 (or more) guys from that group get a chance and if no one emerges by the trade deadline, then you make a move for someone like Bey, OPJ, Fontecchio or Osman..

[BK_2020]

Maybe we can get Rubio.

[jordb2k7]

Optics would be horrible, but Miles Bridges salary would fit in perfectly as a rental as well as give tatum and porzingis some rest at the 4.

No thanks

[Memokerobi]

Svi Mykhailiuk
26 year old, 6-7, 205 lb SF from Kansas
1.8 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 0.4 apg in 7.6 minutes in 2023-2024
Boston's unprotected 2024 1st round pick (currently #30)

for

Saddiq Bey
24 year old, 6-7, 215 lb F from Villanova
12.8 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 1.3 apg in 32.3 minutes in 2023-2024
Traded into 6.2 million TPE created by Grant Williams trade.

Why for Atlanta:
They may lose Bey for nothing or have possibly sign him long term to a contract they don't want to keep him this offseason. With this trade they get a shooter that is not getting minutes from Boston and a 1st round pick (although currently #30) they may be able to help flip into Siakam from Tronto.

Why for Boston:
Boston should have taken Bey in the draft instead of Nesmith, but they didn't. Bey gives them a better shooter than what Svi has proven to be and are able to flip a late 1st round pick and the guaranteed salary that comes with it for Bey, who could fit into their long-term plans better. Bey would be a better backup to Tatum and Brown as a all-round scorer off the bench than anyone on the team now, including Hauser. However, a bench of Pritchard, Bey, Hauser, Brissett and Horford is as good as some starting lineups in the league. Also, we all know how much Brad hates first round picks. LOL If Boston decided that Bey's asking price is too much to resign him, then sign and trade him to recoup what you can.

No way we give up a 1st for Bey. He cost less when he had 1 more year on his contract

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Svi Mykhailiuk
26 year old, 6-7, 205 lb SF from Kansas
1.8 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 0.4 apg in 7.6 minutes in 2023-2024
Boston's unprotected 2024 1st round pick (currently #30)

for

Saddiq Bey
24 year old, 6-7, 215 lb F from Villanova
12.8 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 1.3 apg in 32.3 minutes in 2023-2024
Traded into 6.2 million TPE created by Grant Williams trade.

Why for Atlanta:
They may lose Bey for nothing or have possibly sign him long term to a contract they don't want to keep him this offseason. With this trade they get a shooter that is not getting minutes from Boston and a 1st round pick (although currently #30) they may be able to help flip into Siakam from Tronto.

Why for Boston:
Boston should have taken Bey in the draft instead of Nesmith, but they didn't. Bey gives them a better shooter than what Svi has proven to be and are able to flip a late 1st round pick and the guaranteed salary that comes with it for Bey, who could fit into their long-term plans better. Bey would be a better backup to Tatum and Brown as a all-round scorer off the bench than anyone on the team now, including Hauser. However, a bench of Pritchard, Bey, Hauser, Brissett and Horford is as good as some starting lineups in the league. Also, we all know how much Brad hates first round picks. LOL If Boston decided that Bey's asking price is too much to resign him, then sign and trade him to recoup what you can.

No way we give up a 1st for Bey. He cost less when he had 1 more year on his contract

Detroit got less draft capital when the traded Bey last year because in addition to draft capital, they were also getting the guy who was recently the no. 2 pick in the draft.

Also, the Detroit GM is kind of dumb - he's made a bunch of suspect moves over the past few years.

Also, Brad has been known to overpay a little but in order to get a player he really wants (White, Horford, Brogdon, etc.).

And the 30th pick is basically a 2nd rounder - especially in a draft class as weak as this one.. Brad's motto is "f them picks" lol

[BK_2020]

Brad will turn the 30th pick into 5 second rounders. You don't toss away 5 second rounders for nothing or worse, for Saddiq Bey.

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Not gonna lie, I think Brad knows that he may have cost the Celtics a championship last season by not using the Fournier TPE. Seems like he doesn't want to make that mistake again - and perhaps now has more of a green light than ever to make a move to put us over the top.