Pascal Siakam Trade Speculation Thread

[KP730]

If Pacers put both Jarace and Mathurin on the table they probably get Siakam.

If the Warriors put both Podz and Kuminga on the table they probably get Siakam.

If both of these teams put these offers on the table I would take the Warriors offer because IMO Podz > Jarace and Kuminga > Mathurin. However I suspect Masai would value Jarace+Mathurin more.

I think the pacers got the best long term piece that fits Scottie and IQ in Jarace. if Indy can put together a deal around him, I’d take that and would be quite happy with our new core

Siakam being willing to extend his contract is necessary if a team is going to trade anything if value for Siakam. Indianapolis is not glamorous. Toronto is glamorous and exciting compared to Indianapolis. Indianapolis is not that much warmer than Toronto and is not a big market for big endorsement deals. Siakam might prefer leaving in free agency.

not so sure I buy that Siakam would turn down more money on the deal with the team that has his birds rights. he strikes me as a guy who will go with the deal with the most money

IND would be able to offer him more than anybody after this trade, and will be a GOOD team during that contract…he’ll have a shot to really compete

sure, he may be putting the Raps in a tougher spot saying he will not sign with anybody right now…but I just don’t buy that he’ll turn down more money on this final max contract when it comes down to it in the end

[YogurtProducer]

Unless we get a hell of an offer, I would rather just extend at this point and figure it out later.

[Rapsfan07]

Yeah I think it's gotta be Indy at this point.

Although the slimming competition and Siakam's unwillingness to confirm whether or not he'll resign is severely hampering our ability to move on from this situation.

We know that Pascal is after the money but if you're the other team, do you want to pay a big package for a guy who won't confirm he'll resign?

I'd be willing to do Hield, Mathurin and Walker/Toppin/Smith for Siakam and Temple. But whatever we do, he needs to be gone by the deadline. I don't think an extension is in the cards for him, seeing as he could wait a couple of months and either get a 5 year deal from us or take a 4 year deal with a better team. Makes no sense for him to sign one now.

[ash_k]

Stephen Curry & Steve Kerr need to win now: Only Pascal is that proven gettable player that could get them there and keep them there for 2 or 3 more years with the way Steph is playing. Players like Dejounte/Lavine are totally unknown at that level. The fit with Draymond would be just fine with Pascal's versatility.
if I were G-State, I would try to acquire Pascal desperately . CP3 + all of their prospects+picks.

I think DeJounte Murray would help the Warriors more than Siakam would.

Raptors won’t get much for Siakam if Suakam won’t agree to stay with the team that trades for him.

But we solved that with a 3 way deal. Hawks do want Siakam and do want to trade Murray. The problem is getting Siakam to extend his contract because Siakam kind of wants to be a free agent.

With Pascal, on Day 1, the Draymonds and them would have the utmost respect for him, having being torched by him at the highest level of the NBA.
The Draymonds and them cannot afford on their watch to discover if DeJounte can handle the playoff pressure of big games: That concern would not exist with Pascal. That would be Pascal's key value over anyone they could acquire.

Pascal would give GSW much more versatility on both ends with the ability to go very big at times.

The thing about the contract gets overblown, money will always talk: He has no kids yet nor a Canadian wife in Toronto and his mother is in Houston, TX. Do you think if he gets traded to the Rockets, he would say "Toronto only"?!

He just wants to win like he keeps saying and being a Warrior would almost guarantee a chance to another LOB or two

[LoveMyRaps]

Unless we get a hell of an offer, I would rather just extend at this point and figure it out later.

Yeah, but I feel like the relationship between Pascal & the FO has been tainted to the point of no return. I don't think he'll extend, Masai did his best to destroy Pascal's morale. Constantly declaring this as Scottie's team and not to mention, this team is still ways away from being a contender. Just doesn't sound like an ideal situation for Pascal.

What sucks is that Pascal won't commit to ANY team right now, which suppresses his value significantly. We may just end up with a poo poo platter.

[ArthurVandelay]

So much smoke around Atlanta. I can’t see them trying to do a one year rebuild. Doesn’t fit the owner or Quinn or Trae desires or timelines.

Nets are floundering with no reason to be bad not controlling their picks.

How about something with Hawks, Nets, Raptors.

Hawks: Siakam, Dinwiddie, (one or two of Thomas/Clowney/Whitehead/Sharpe), PHX 2025 & 2027 firsts
Nets: DJM, Capella
Raptors: Claxton, Hunter, AJ

Hawks clear contracts and recoup draft capital while adding Siakam
Nets get DJM, Bridges, DFS, Cam, Capella starting lineup
Raptors get 3&D wing, shooter, and C that fits better than Poeltl

This would also kick off 100s of pages of Poeltl trade speculation on RealGM. Claxton UFA but a deal starting at $20 with a fifth year PO should solve those worries.

[mademan]

I dont get the Kuminga hype and i'd be glad if the Dubs kept him in a potential trade. I'd rather go with Podz/Moody/1st(s)

[alpngso]

Read on Twitter

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

Stephen Curry & Steve Kerr need to win now: Only Pascal is that proven gettable player that could get them there and keep them there for 2 or 3 more years with the way Steph is playing. Players like Dejounte/Lavine are totally unknown at that level. The fit with Draymond would be just fine with Pascal's versatility.
if I were G-State, I would try to acquire Pascal desperately . CP3 + all of their prospects+picks.

I think DeJounte Murray would help the Warriors more than Siakam would.

Raptors won’t get much for Siakam if Suakam won’t agree to stay with the team that trades for him.

But we solved that with a 3 way deal. Hawks do want Siakam and do want to trade Murray. The problem is getting Siakam to extend his contract because Siakam kind of wants to be a free agent.

With Pascal, on Day 1, the Draymonds and them would have the utmost respect for him, having being torched by him at the highest level of the NBA.
The Draymonds and them cannot afford on their watch to discover if DeJounte can handle the playoff pressure of big games: That concern would not exist with Pascal. That would be Pascal's key value over anyone they could acquire.

Pascal would give GSW much more versatility on both ends with the ability to go very big at times.

The thing about the contract gets overblown, money will always talk: He has no kids yet nor a Canadian wife in Toronto and his mother is in Houston, TX. Do you think if he gets traded to the Rockets, he would say "Toronto only"?!

He just wants to win like he keeps saying and being a Warrior would almost guarantee a chance to another LOB or two

I think Dejounte Murray is a better fit for the Warriors.


There are not enough power forward minutes for both Draymond and Siakam. How good would Siakam be at small forward and center? How good of a job would Siakam do defending Tatum?

[kalel123]

The market for pascal seems extremely thin unfortunately

And this is by design unfortunately. There's purpose to all these leaks coming from Siakam's side.

[LarSiN]

The market for pascal seems extremely thin unfortunately

Nah, they're just being cheap asf

[Rapsobsessed7]

Here are my ideas with each rumoured team, i have a hard time seeing Masai taking picks + expirings based off the fact all indications have lead us to believe he values young players over those assets.

1. Indiana:
- Buddy Hield + Jarace Walker + Jalen Smith + 1st Rounder for Pascal Siakam
*Thad Young/OPJ waived post trade

Raptors get Walker as the prize in this deal but Jalen Smith is kind of interesting as well. Pacers replace Smith in their starting lineup with Pascal without touching any other major rotational pieces (if they would prefer, i would also swap out Hield for Brown and remove the 1st to include Nembhard but i suspect this trade would be their preference).

2. Golden State:
- Chris Paul + Jonathan Kuminga + Moses Moody for Pascal Siakam + Garrett Temple

Raptors get 2 young pieces, can waive CP3 post trade as his contract is not fully guaranteed next year. Inclusion of Temple helps the Raptors stay below tax post trade and saves GSW some luxury tax dollars without impacting their cap next year.

3. Dallas:
- Max Kleber + Richaun Holmes + Dereck Lively + Josh Green for Pascal Siakam + Christian Koloko
* Thad Young/OPJ waived post trade

Raptors get 2 pieces in Lively and Green. The only way i see a Dallas trade working is if Lively is the centrepiece. There is nothing else that i see being remotely interesting (Green + picks doesnt do it for me). I understand if the Mavs dont trade him but much like Sacramento, without that piece, their offer doesnt get it done (IMO). I value Keegan Murray higher than Lively though.

4. Detroit
- Joe Harris + James Wiseman + Ausar Thompson for Pascal Siakam + Otto Porter Jr

I dont understand why Detroit is in these talks but the only way i see it working is with Thompson coming back. Pistons arent trading their 1st. We arent getting Duren and i like a Duren/Siakam pairing TBH.

There could be some other team that comes into the picture (Houston/Miami/etc) but just based off the rumours of teams interested this is what i could see happening.

[TorontoRapsFan]

Can someone explain why Podz is being treated like such a great prospect? If it's his 3p fg%, he attempts 3 shots a game, probably all of them wide open cause he plays with Steph and Klay.

Is there anything to his game other than this shooting streak that makes him special?

[HumbleRen]

The market for pascal seems extremely thin unfortunately

Nah, they're just being cheap asf

Market would be there if Siakam was willing to play ball but his camp has let teams know he is not re-signing with them.

[HumbleRen]

Can someone explain why Podz is being treated like such a great prospect? If it's his 3p fg%, he attempts 3 shots a game, probably all of them wide open cause he plays with Steph and Klay.

Is there anything to his game other than this shooting streak that makes him special?

Rookies who contribute to competent basketball is a clear sign that they’ll be good in the future. He’s not untouchable but he’s clearly a good prospect.

[ImaBeatDatAzz]

Kuminga has to be coming the other way if we trade Siakim.

What about Klay Thompson, Jonathan Kuminga, Moses Moody and 2nd round draft pick(s) for Pascal Siakam, Otto Porter Jr. and Thaddeus Young? Works on the NBA trade tracker.

Warriors fan here.
No deal.
I don’t want Siakim that much.
I think Porter has declined from the guy Warriors had in 2022 so Porter does not help much.

Because Draymond and Siakim are both power forwards I don’t think Siakim is a good fit with the Warriors.

But I do want Dejounte Murray.
Hawks do want Siskim if his contract is extended.
Hawks don’t think Siakim wants the Hawks.

Both Hawks and Raptors say they want players not draft picks because they both claim that they are too good to be rebuilding teams. I want the Warriors to win a champion now because I think the Warriors will be too old to win championships after this season.

If the Warriors lose Klay or if Klay does not play well the Warriors are not winning a championship even with Siakim or Dejounte Murray added to the team.

In my opinion Kuminga has a 50% chance of being as good as Siskin is now in 2 years.

So my trade checker approved trade:

Too the Raptors
Kuminga
2 Warriors 1st round picks
2 Hawks 2nd round picks
Chris Paul’s expiring contract
Patty Mills filler contract. You can cut him.

To the Hawks
Extended Siakim
Moses Moody (to replace Murray)

To the Warriors
DeJounte Murray
Otto Porter
Porter may not play for the Warriors but somebody has to replace Kuminga. Warriors can turn to Porter Wiggins Garuba or Trayce Jackson Davis to replace Kuminga.

Siakim, Siskim, Siskin.

Lmao this had me dying

[WuTang_CMB]

Masai got NY and Indiana to battle for OG.

I know OG has the CAA connection to NY but Indiana still had a real threat to retain him if they traded for him and got his bird rights. NY gave up what they did to get his bird rights and secured him. But it was fair game between the two teams.

Masai needs to find at least 2 teams for Siakam willing to take a risk on him and run up the price. In the end I think its going to be difficult to find teams willing to give up significant assets hoping Siakam will stay. Possibly GS since they are desperate.

Theres gotta be some back chanelling going on with teams and siakam's reps else i just think we extend him and punt the decision for a later date

[TorontoRapsFan]

Can someone explain why Podz is being treated like such a great prospect? If it's his 3p fg%, he attempts 3 shots a game, probably all of them wide open cause he plays with Steph and Klay.

Is there anything to his game other than this shooting streak that makes him special?

Rookies who contribute to competent basketball is a clear sign that they’ll be good in the future. He’s not untouchable but he’s clearly a good prospect.

But it seems to be pretty easy for guards to get 10-12 ppg off wide open shots and a few makes at the rim. Especially non starters. Doesn't mean they'll ever be more than that.

[mtcan]

Kuminga has to be coming the other way if we trade Siakim.

What about Klay Thompson, Jonathan Kuminga, Moses Moody and 2nd round draft pick(s) for Pascal Siakam, Otto Porter Jr. and Thaddeus Young? Works on the NBA trade tracker.

Warriors fan here.
No deal.
I don’t want Siakim that much.
I think Porter has declined from the guy Warriors had in 2022 so Porter does not help much.

Because Draymond and Siakim are both power forwards I don’t think Siakim is a good fit with the Warriors.

But I do want Dejounte Murray.
Hawks do want Siskim if his contract is extended.
Hawks don’t think Siakim wants the Hawks.

Both Hawks and Raptors say they want players not draft picks because they both claim that they are too good to be rebuilding teams. I want the Warriors to win a champion now because I think the Warriors will be too old to win championships after this season.

If the Warriors lose Klay or if Klay does not play well the Warriors are not winning a championship even with Siakim or Dejounte Murray added to the team.

In my opinion Kuminga has a 50% chance of being as good as Siskin is now in 2 years.

So my trade checker approved trade:

Too the Raptors
Kuminga
2 Warriors 1st round picks
2 Hawks 2nd round picks
Chris Paul’s expiring contract
Patty Mills filler contract. You can cut him.

To the Hawks
Extended Siakim
Moses Moody (to replace Murray)

To the Warriors
DeJounte Murray
Otto Porter
Porter may not play for the Warriors but somebody has to replace Kuminga. Warriors can turn to Porter Wiggins Garuba or Trayce Jackson Davis to replace Kuminga.

Kuminga has less than a 5% chance to be as good as Siakam in two years and less than 15% to ever be as good as Siakam.

Ok c'mon even Pascal Siakam wasn't the Pascal we know now until the age of 25. He wasn't even half that player at the same age Kuminga is right now.

[ash_k]

I think DeJounte Murray would help the Warriors more than Siakam would.

Raptors won’t get much for Siakam if Suakam won’t agree to stay with the team that trades for him.

But we solved that with a 3 way deal. Hawks do want Siakam and do want to trade Murray. The problem is getting Siakam to extend his contract because Siakam kind of wants to be a free agent.

With Pascal, on Day 1, the Draymonds and them would have the utmost respect for him, having being torched by him at the highest level of the NBA.
The Draymonds and them cannot afford on their watch to discover if DeJounte can handle the playoff pressure of big games: That concern would not exist with Pascal. That would be Pascal's key value over anyone they could acquire.

Pascal would give GSW much more versatility on both ends with the ability to go very big at times.

The thing about the contract gets overblown, money will always talk: He has no kids yet nor a Canadian wife in Toronto and his mother is in Houston, TX. Do you think if he gets traded to the Rockets, he would say "Toronto only"?!

He just wants to win like he keeps saying and being a Warrior would almost guarantee a chance to another LOB or two

I think Dejounte Murray is a better fit for the Warriors.


There are not enough power forward minutes for both Draymond and Siakam. How good would Siakam be at small forward and center? How good of a job would Siakam do defending Tatum?

You are thinking the "J-Poole" fit here ?
Pascal is essentially a versatile Small Forward playing power forward: We have known him as an elite defender able to cover prime Westbrook and then his defense dropped off when he became our number 1 option. With less responsibilities offensively, he should be able to raise back that defense of his.
Right now, there is an opportunity to have Draymond come off the bench with a player like Pascal taking his place in the starting lineup: Again the level of respect would be there to accept this kind of change .
Then a new Death lineup to close the game out with Dray and Pascal