Safe to say, Chet "Hologram" Holgrem > Paolo Banchero

BrooklynDynasty · Post #341 » by **BrooklynDynasty** » Thu Jan 4, 2024 11:25 pm

Will Chet ever score 43 points in his career? I like him but probably not. My guess is Paolo ends up with more 50 point games than Chet does 35

Btw if you swap out Fultz or Suggs for SGA, does Orlando have the same record as the Thunder? I think the answer is a pretty safe yes

basketballRob · Post #342 » by **basketballRob** » Thu Jan 4, 2024 11:29 pm

BrooklynDynasty wrote:Will Chet ever score 43 points in his career? I like him but probably not. My guess is Paolo ends up with more 50 point games than Chet does 35

Btw if you swap out Fultz or Suggs for SGA, does Orlando have the same record as the Thunder? I think the answer is a pretty safe yes

Orlando has 6 rotational players injured, right now. I don't think the Magic needs to change personnel they just need to get healthy, and they can compete with any team.

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tooler · Post #343 » by **tooler** » Thu Jan 4, 2024 11:39 pm

BrooklynDynasty wrote:Will Chet ever score 43 points in his career? I like him but probably not. My guess is Paolo ends up with more 50 point games than Chet does 35

Is this some sort of reverse troll to make Paolo look bad? Both of these are silly statements.

golfreak · Post #344 » by **golfreak** » Mon Jan 8, 2024 3:34 am

Sometimes it's nice to revisit this thread cause it hasn't aged well.
Paolo will be an All-Star this season. It would be a crime if the coaches don't pick him for the reserves.
This guy is carrying the Magic right now.
43 pts, triple double and a 35/10/4/3 for an encore.
A "superstar" in the making.

Rainwater · Post #345 » by **Rainwater** » Mon Jan 8, 2024 3:41 am

golfreak wrote:Sometimes it's nice to revisit this thread cause it hasn't aged well.
Paolo will be an All-Star this season. It would be a crime if the coaches don't pick him for the reserves.
This guy is carrying the Magic right now.
43 pts, triple double and a 35/10/4/3 for an encore.
A "superstar" in the making.

Yeah, there is no way the coaches don't vote him in at this point.

CIN-C-STAR · Post #346 » by **CIN-C-STAR** » Mon Jan 8, 2024 3:42 am

People rating 3rd options over 1st options because of TS% :crazy:

BigGargamel · Post #347 » by **BigGargamel** » Mon Jan 8, 2024 3:44 am

CIN-C-STAR wrote:People rating 3rd options over 1st options because of TS%

I enjoy advanced stats but some people put way too much stock into them. That kind of thinking makes posters say they are "concerned about Wembanyama"

Paolo is getting it done and carrying the team offensively.

Both players are very good and in their preferred situations. I don't think either player would be quite as good if they switched spots.

Either way, both made the right choice by not taking Jabari Smith.

Residual-Heat · Post #348 » by **Residual-Heat** » Mon Jan 8, 2024 3:56 am

26/8/5 in his last 20 games
29.4/8/5.7 in his last 10 games
33/9/6.6 in his last 5 games

Paolo has been a beast, and making it look like the Magic made the right pick.

Still, Chet has been great. Both potential superstars i think.

Then you have a bunch of guys in this draft with atleast all-star potential, or atleast really good players like Jalen Willaims, Duren, Smith. Some interesting scoring prospects that could also explode in Ivey, Mathurin, Sharpe. Even have some defensive talent with Eason, Walker, Daniels.

I still remember when people said the 2022 draft was a weak draft. :lol:

Rainwater · Post #349 » by **Rainwater** » Mon Jan 8, 2024 4:04 am

BigGargamel wrote:
CIN-C-STAR wrote:People rating 3rd options over 1st options because of TS%

I enjoy advanced stats but some people put way too much stock into them. That kind of thinking makes posters say they are "concerned about Wembanyama"

Paolo is getting it done and carrying the team offensively.

Both players are very good and in their preferred situations. I don't think either player would be quite as good if they switched spots.

Either way, both made the right choice by not taking Jabari Smith.

Truth, lol. Jabari is a decent player, might be an All-Star once or twice, but definitely not a number one option.

Sphynx · Post #350 » by **Sphynx** » Mon Jan 8, 2024 4:27 am

BrooklynDynasty wrote:Will Chet ever score 43 points in his career? I like him but probably not. My guess is Paolo ends up with more 50 point games than Chet does 35

Btw if you swap out Fultz or Suggs for SGA, does Orlando have the same record as the Thunder? I think the answer is a pretty safe yes

He scored 17 points in the first 8 minutes on Joker (in Denver) the most dominant player in the league, in the first half of his rookie season.

He's a dynamic, highly skilled scorer, that can score in most positions on a basketball court.

So I'm going to go with yes and plenty of them, he will have multiple 50 point games at the end of his career.....

ogmagicfan · Post #351 » by **ogmagicfan** » Mon Jan 8, 2024 5:10 am

Paolo is making the leap in his sophomore season, which is crazy. Him being a top 15-20 player in the NBA by the end of the season is very possible.

The NBA is doing a pathetic job promoting him & the Orlando Magic in general the past couple seasons. It's disrespectful.

Rainwater · Post #352 » by **Rainwater** » Mon Jan 8, 2024 5:37 am

ogmagicfan wrote:Paolo is making the leap in his sophomore season, which is crazy. Him being a top 15-20 player in the NBA by the end of the season is very possible.

The NBA is doing a pathetic job promoting him & the Orlando Magic in general the past couple seasons. It's disrespectful.

I don't know if it’s disrespect, lol. This is only his second year and the Magic weren't all that good last year. And the Magic weren't expected to be all that good this year.

The Servant · Post #353 » by **The Servant** » Mon Jan 8, 2024 5:38 am

Love to see it for Magic and Paolo. Both players are having great seasons

baldur · Post #354 » by **baldur** » Mon Jan 8, 2024 5:39 am

Safe to say Banchero is much better at the moment.

golfreak · Post #355 » by **golfreak** » Mon Jan 8, 2024 5:44 am

Listen, Chet is great. No doubt about it. Glad to see he's making an impact on his first year and helping OKC becoming a top team.
It's just a bit idiotic to me that someone would make a thread 1 week into a season proclaiming "safe to say Chet > Paolo" when player 1 has played 3 games, out all of 1st yr vs player 2 who just won rookie of the year.

zero rings · Post #356 » by **zero rings** » Mon Jan 8, 2024 5:50 am

CIN-C-STAR wrote:People rating 3rd options over 1st options because of TS%

Why is being a first option so important? Cade Cunningham is a first option. You still have to be impactful in that role for it to matter.

Right now, Paolo is an inefficient volume scorer with terrible impact metrics. His on/off for the season is a whopping -12.0! He's not a better player than Chet just because he takes more shots.

Post #357 » by **SOUL** » Mon Jan 8, 2024 5:56 am

Thunder got who they needed and Magic got the player they needed too. Both still have things to work on (efficiency for Paolo, finishing, etc) and Chet can refine a lot of areas and add to his game too.

CIN-C-STAR · Post #358 » by **CIN-C-STAR** » Mon Jan 8, 2024 5:56 am

zero rings wrote:
CIN-C-STAR wrote:People rating 3rd options over 1st options because of TS%

Why is being a first option so important? Cade Cunningham is a first option. You still have to be impactful in that role for it to matter.

Right now, Paolo is an inefficient volume scorer with terrible impact metrics. His on/off for the season is a whopping -12.0! He's not a better player than Chet just because he takes more shots.

Name checks out

ogmagicfan · Post #359 » by **ogmagicfan** » Mon Jan 8, 2024 5:58 am

Rainwater wrote:
ogmagicfan wrote:Paolo is making the leap in his sophomore season, which is crazy. Him being a top 15-20 player in the NBA by the end of the season is very possible.

The NBA is doing a pathetic job promoting him & the Orlando Magic in general the past couple seasons. It's disrespectful.

I don't know if disrespect, lol. This is only his second year and the Magic weren't all that good last year. And the Magic weren't expected to be all that good this year.

We haven't had a televised game since Paolo has joined, even with him being a near unanimous ROY & putting up 20/7/4 as a rookie.

We weren't good last season, but we improved by 12 games, and played above .500 ball after the 5-20 start

The real reason Paolo hasn't gotten coverage is because the NBA & sport networks skipped promoting the current #1 pick at the time to start promoting Wemby early

zero rings · Post #360 » by **zero rings** » Mon Jan 8, 2024 6:08 am

CIN-C-STAR wrote:
zero rings wrote:
CIN-C-STAR wrote:People rating 3rd options over 1st options because of TS%

Why is being a first option so important? Cade Cunningham is a first option. You still have to be impactful in that role for it to matter.

Right now, Paolo is an inefficient volume scorer with terrible impact metrics. His on/off for the season is a whopping -12.0! He's not a better player than Chet just because he takes more shots.

Name checks out

Great players win rings, not "first options." You're not a great player if you don't have a positive impact on the floor.