PG Utah: Great Third Quarter!

[AussieBuck]

Love the wrinkle of Grief throwing out the last pick of the second round out there to make his system kinda work for a minute. If he wasn't a giant **** mess it would be a great statement about the lack of personnel he has to run am aggressive defense.

[JayMKE]

Would love nothing more. And I think the guy would get a standing ovation entering Fiserv.

I still say there’s a chance this could happen, and it should. Let’s hope Horst and ownership didn’t burn that bridge.

Firing a guy whose brother died during the playoffs, won you a championship 3 years ago, and took you to the playoffs every year he coached is more than burning a bridge. They blew that mf'er up and buried it 10 feet under the ground.

fire Horst, bring Bud in as HC and GM as he was in Atlanta

[randy84]

It just might be that the Bucks aren't as talented as they use to be due to age, injuries, or bad personnel decisions. It also might be that the championship run had a lot to due with luck and injuries like so many championship runs do. I mean look at where the Atlanta Hawks and Phoenix Suns are at and those were the two teams the Bucks beat to win the championship. The Nets were probably the best team they played during that run.

I think Bud probably knew this and was masking a lot of it with his schemes. I think playing random on offense was Bud knowing that Giannis isn't a guy to sit in the dunker's spot and needs the ball in his hand to maximize his game. Everyone else will get theirs after Giannis. Khris could never be counted on to stay healthy and Jrue's defensive skills were eroding. I think ownership was blinded by that championship and not willing to look at the team's warts. Of course it doesn't help when you mortgage your future for that one championship. At the end of the day, at least they have a championship to show for it.

[giannis and 1]

Would the Warriors let us talk to Atkinson?

Doubt Dunnleavy is doing Giannis any favors

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[Daver]

Would love nothing more. And I think the guy would get a standing ovation entering Fiserv.

I still say there’s a chance this could happen, and it should. Let’s hope Horst and ownership didn’t burn that bridge.

Firing a guy whose brother died during the playoffs, won you a championship 3 years ago, and took you to the playoffs every year he coached is more than burning a bridge. They blew that mf'er up and buried it 10 feet under the ground.

Thats just BS there you go agsin bringing up buds brother death again.Bud other than 1 year sh.. his pants in every playoff series.#1 seed 3 out of 5 years n total failure he had players telling him how to play D got curb stomped by nurse n spo in the playoffs.Regular season record means nothing if you cant get the big dance.He absolutely deserved to get fired.
Whats your excuse if bucks lose in 5 to the heat n buds brother didnt pass away

[PG Graveyard]

Bud forgot to call a timeout at the end of a playoff elimination game. Lol at people wanting to bring him back. It’s ok to admit this roster isn’t where it needs to be and Dame wasn’t the right superstar.

[JayMKE]

Let us not forget that Bud got fired because Giannis got hurt and Jrue got all time humiliated by Jimmy Butler more than anything else before even getting into the personal circumstances

Fact of the matter is there aren't any better options, your not signing a guy off some other team's bench or probably even getting a guy off TV in the middle of the season. Griff **** us over so we're already down a lead assistant, we're pretty much **** this season even if Griff gets fired if people are honest with themselves. Griff pushing Stotts out was because he was insecure with a HC in waiting on the roster, we've been sabotaged from the start.

IMO Horst should be on hot seat if this all comes to pass, has there ever been a worse hire at coach?

[yannisk]

We shot 47% from 3 and still lost by 16. Jazz is a lottery team and was up by 30 at one point, they scored 15 more than their average.

Lillard was not playing so there isn't even the excuse that he is a bad defender. After last game and the Giannis talk there should have been some effort and urgency. So there goes the effort excuse as well.

The embarrassing defense is a result of bad personnel that is terribly coached, I don't know what percentage is the personnel and what is the coaching but you cannot change the personnel overnight while you can fire coach Grief tomorrow. It seems that he has lost the team. Lillard especially seems completely disassociated, I wouldn't be surprised if he asks for a trade citing personal issues.

[MiltownHawkeye]

IMO Horst should be on hot seat if this all comes to pass, has there ever been a worse hire at coach?

I was actually wondering this too. In terms of how much damage was done simply from one coaching hire I struggle to think of worse examples.

[raferfenix]

Horst got Giannis to extend calm down guys.

[pifhluk23]

The Bud revisionist history is hilarious, we're lucky we got the 1 with him as HC. Top tier development and regular season coach, bottom tier playoff strategist.

[CharityStripe34]

The way Bud was let go unceremoniously there's no chance he's coming back, even if Gianni and Khris asked for it. Not sure he would want to. Realistically speaking, if Griffin is canned then it's probably Prunty at the helm for the rest of the season, and then the hiring carousel starts in the summer.

[LUKE23]

When your star player, who is also one of the hardest working players in league history, calls you out and you go out and allow 77 at half to a lottery team, there are severe issues.

It appears to me the team has completely given up on Grief. He was a terrible hire to begin with and the Stotts thing should have been a major red flag to the organization. I don’t see personnel moves changing anything this season. A coaching move might.

[Siefer]

I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's going to be very hard to bring in a quality replacement who can reorient the team towards a functional strategy mid stream, and I think the team knows Prunty isn't going to fix anything.

You need to bring in a guy who both knows what he's doing, and can see the path that gets from where we are to something functional halfway through a season. That's probably focusing on walking back to our old D (and you'd hope the vets remember what's up), but whoever comes in will need to both agree to it and know how to do it.

Stotts has rapport and some experience with this group. Atkinson knows the scheme. Ham if everything fell right?

[RogerMurdock]

Dale Sveum

[JayMKE]

Bud's issues pale in comparison to Griffin's, we were worried about Bud not being able to adjust his system in the playoffs against certain match ups not organizationally taking a whole step back to the Jason Kidd era again. Our championship and disappointing loses in the playoffs are going to be this franchise's golden years, that disappointment at least meant we believed those teams were capable of going further. I can't delude myself into thinking this team is anything close to being a contender right now, I think there is a good chance they lose in the 1st round in embarrassing fashion its like watching a car wreck.

Call that revisionist but I just think practically the team is down a lead assistant with a lame duck coach, there isn't a lot of options period let alone good ones. Joe Prunty running the team solo, stealing an assistant off another team like Atkinson, getting someone that works in the media like Doc, or the front office being humbled into bringing back Bud or Stotts? Maybe Ham becomes available?

[drew881]

Front offices bringing back coaches has precedence. You can throw out feelers and get it set up before pulling the trigger.

The Atkinson scenario is way too risky. You need to fire Griffin first, then proceed to make a negotiation with another team… then hire. You’ll have 15 games left in the season before that.

I think it is Bud/Stotts or bust. Realistically, we are going to play out the season and get someone new. The scary thing is seeing where Dame is at that point.

[jimmybones]

Feels like the end of an era, RIP Bucks as contenders era, it's been fun

[jimmybones]

Legitimately, and I think validly, haven't been anywhere near this down on the overall state of the team in many, many years. This is different than being disappointed in how they played in a game, a series, or whatever - and no, I have not forgotten Miami/R1 obviously. This team's a mess and has been all season, record or not. And I'm not sure even a coaching change will right all the wrongs. We really, really **** up the coaching search and I think it could end up being the undoing of a serious chance at another ring.

It could be worse than just a ring. This team has no future because we have mortgaged it all to go in this year, and the coaching selection has almost literally single-handedly upended the present.

The good news, possibly, is that if Griffin **** it up so badly so quickly, it should theoretically be possible to fix it quickly... but I'm not sure if the right guy to do it is available currently/anymore.

This is the issue, firing him now means you have to find a multi year replacement mid season when most of the best options are currently employed. I'd commit to Stotts going forward in a heartbeat but I just don't see poaching a coach from another team as a realistic option during the season. We're ****

[SirChurros]

Whether or not he’s right or wrong, Dame being disengaged (and I do think it’s for personal and on court things) is reason enough to fire Grief.

Like it or not we traded for a star and our best chance of winning is if that star is playing for a coach, who at minimum, isn’t setting him up to fail.