Fantasy Trade Thread

[PhillyFan11]

I actually think it’d be in our best interest to grab a Capela to back up Jo since the Paul Reed experiment looks like a bust.

Murray will likely not yield the same value the Hawk traded for him, so I think a first and maybe some other form of draft incentive would be enough.

Freeing up space for the Hawks to make a play in FA makes Tobias extremely valuable to the Hawks. Capela and Bogdonovic are on multi year deals. They’ll be handcuffed for a while with a subpar team.

It's not like those are bad contracts though, where we're doing them a favor. I think each could individually be moved for expiring+asset if they wanted to go that direction, with Murray likely bringing in a decent haul on his own.

Agreed that Hunter, Bagdonovic and Capela likely aren’t viewed as bad/negative contracts. Not saying the Hawks will get huge returns, but I don’t think they are salary dump type of players. If you want similar players in free agency it’s probably going to cost you a good bit more than $20M this off season with the cap continuing to go up.

[Ben]

GSW gets Barnes
PHI gets Wiggins and Huerter
SAC gets Harris

Huerter alone would be amazing. Wiggins changes the conversation a bit, though, doesn't he? He's intriguing because he's been a pretty solid player most of his career-- not #3 draft pick level, but pretty solid-- and yet he's declined precipitously this season, with several years left on his contract. He's shooting 30% from 3 but that can't be the real Wiggins, right? And he's playing even worse D than usual. It's not that he's pouting over not starting; his reserve stats are vastly better than his starting stats. All of which makes one wonder whether GSW would indeed sell him cheaply right now, and whether it would be a good buy-low opportunity for the Sixers. The guy can't simply have regressed that much in one season (at age 28), right?

But there's the rub. What if he really has given up? That's a big chunk out of the FA cap space right there. So essentially one would be gambling a significant bit of Embiid's championship window on Andrew Wiggins turning things around. Is that a gamble worth taking? I just don't know enough about Wiggins' internal workings to say.

I sure would love Huerter, though.

[Ben]

I actually think it’d be in our best interest to grab a Capela to back up Jo since the Paul Reed experiment looks like a bust.

Murray will likely not yield the same value the Hawk traded for him, so I think a first and maybe some other form of draft incentive would be enough.

Freeing up space for the Hawks to make a play in FA makes Tobias extremely valuable to the Hawks. Capela and Bogdonovic are on multi year deals. They’ll be handcuffed for a while with a subpar team.

It's not like those are bad contracts though, where we're doing them a favor. I think each could individually be moved for expiring+asset if they wanted to go that direction, with Murray likely bringing in a decent haul on his own.

Agreed that Hunter, Bagdonovic and Capela likely aren’t viewed as bad/negative contracts. Not saying the Hawks will get huge returns, but I don’t think they are salary dump type of players. If you want similar players in free agency it’s probably going to cost you a good bit more than $20M this off season with the cap continuing to go up.

Yeah, that's why I would do a Hunter/ Bogdanović/ Capela trade as a replacement for a hoped-for summer 2024 free agent haul, b/c it doesn't seem as if there will be a lot of truly desirable players this coming summer. If the proposed offer was too little, I wonder what it would take to get those guys?

[brannigan73]

The more you watch this team attempt to play with injuries the more it’s obvious that depth is sorely needed. Obviously we need good players and not just bodies, but another guard and forward is a must. The challenge for Morey is going to be adding those players without messing up his master plan for max cap space and multiple 1st’s to trade at his disposal in the offseason.

RoCo, Korkmaz, House, Springer, KJ Martin, any/all 2nd’s we have…need to turn that into a 2 players that will improve the rotation. Easier said than done obviously, but I don’t think it’s impossible by any means

This has been discussed a million times. The Sixers should actually try to accomplish there long term plans at the trade deadline not after the season. They can only have one max slot this offseason and that would require not being able to sign any of there own free agents besides Maxey. They can bring in literally like 80 million in new players if they traded Harris and the guys from the Clippers and still have bird rights to a guy like Melton. They should be able to bring in multiple difference makers at the trade deadline who would likey be better then any one max slot guy we could get in the offseason. Just my opinion but that seems to be the consensus in a lot of sites I go to which also includes homer flagship Liberty Ballers and Sixers reddit. The time to strike is in the next month!

[M2J]

The more you watch this team attempt to play with injuries the more it’s obvious that depth is sorely needed. Obviously we need good players and not just bodies, but another guard and forward is a must. The challenge for Morey is going to be adding those players without messing up his master plan for max cap space and multiple 1st’s to trade at his disposal in the offseason.

RoCo, Korkmaz, House, Springer, KJ Martin, any/all 2nd’s we have…need to turn that into a 2 players that will improve the rotation. Easier said than done obviously, but I don’t think it’s impossible by any means

I agree they need reinforcement clearly, but hope his plan isn't the summer and that's just a backup option. It pretty much limits everything.

But I see a select few dumping on Maxey for struggling without Joel. This team was struggling just as bad if not worse without Maxey and Joel playing. Those two guys are carrying too much. They have zero play-making without them

[PhillyNj]

I also agree this team isn’t good enough to win anything, but the smarter approach is to be patient. It’s probably better long term to wait till next year after we see the team after free agency. Than determine what will get you over the top. I understand the fans always want to win right now, but it’s generally better to be patient, for long term success!

[Da Doctor]

You never know how long Embiid will be Embiid. Wasting his prime in trying to find an impossible perfect deal would be a mistake.

[the_process]

You never know how long Embiid will be Embiid. Wasting his prime in trying to find an impossible perfect deal would be a mistake.

While there should be some sense of urgency, you cannot waste time signing a guy like Siakam even if he's the best available and costs you nothing but cash. The fit has to be right.

[M2J]

I also agree this team isn’t good enough to win anything, but the smarter approach is to be patient. It’s probably better long term to wait till next year after we see the team after free agency. Than determine what will get you over the top. I understand the fans always want to win right now, but it’s generally better to be patient, for long term success!

Why? For who? The same players you can get now for this run?

That plan is essentially to strip the team of all depth, And yes they could be in position to sign one big player over the next two years. Then they will need to wait another year at least to build more depth (see after the Harden trade, and it took him getting less money to get PJ just to get some level of depth)

Hey, if the front office is saying they don't trust that Jo can get it done and stay healthy and it's not worth going into the tax over, etc. I'm with it...trade him. Still no need to tank because they don't have their own picks some of these years (at least next year). Plus, if they ever trade Joel... You'll be fully reached restocked asset wise and the team knows this.

Not making a trade guarantees you won't win it. I mean Brooklyn is over there spinning their wheels like Chicago pretending like they can create some contender out of thin air. Philly has an MVP and 2nd all star Maxey. Morey , Joel, and Nurse (who could've been the Suns or Bucks coach) are in win now mode and being the favorites or co favorites is at your finger tips.

This whole, be patient idea without a plan sounds like fear. Your window is your window, you have to take it, and there's really no reason to be patient. Plus you're fortunate to be seeking a 2b/#3 and there's pretty much every type of option available, except a super star 2 way wing, which isn't realistic. Patience can also lead to the prices increasing, and they are

[PhillyFan11]

The more you watch this team attempt to play with injuries the more it’s obvious that depth is sorely needed. Obviously we need good players and not just bodies, but another guard and forward is a must. The challenge for Morey is going to be adding those players without messing up his master plan for max cap space and multiple 1st’s to trade at his disposal in the offseason.

RoCo, Korkmaz, House, Springer, KJ Martin, any/all 2nd’s we have…need to turn that into a 2 players that will improve the rotation. Easier said than done obviously, but I don’t think it’s impossible by any means

This has been discussed a million times. The Sixers should actually try to accomplish there long term plans at the trade deadline not after the season. They can only have one max slot this offseason and that would require not being able to sign any of there own free agents besides Maxey. They can bring in literally like 80 million in new players if they traded Harris and the guys from the Clippers and still have bird rights to a guy like Melton. They should be able to bring in multiple difference makers at the trade deadline who would likey be better then any one max slot guy we could get in the offseason. Just my opinion but that seems to be the consensus in a lot of sites I go to which also includes homer flagship Liberty Ballers and Sixers reddit. The time to strike is in the next month!

All sounds great, I’m not disagreeing…but who’s the move for? Maarkanen would be amazing, but I’m not sure how many other realistic moves there are to be made for a true difference maker. Which is why I’d rather go the depth route and leave things open for later when available players could/likely change rather than force a bad move (like a LaVine)

[youngcrev]

Something based around:

ATL-PHI-BK, with Murray to the Nets, expirings+picks to the Hawks, and some win now guys coming here.

A couple versions:

Morris/Covington/Furk/picks to ATL
Bogdanovic/Finney-Smith to PHI
Murray to BK

Tobias/picks to ATL
Bogdanovic/Finney-Smith to PHI
Murray to BK

Tobias/picks to ATL
Bogdanovic/Cam Johnson to PHI
Murray/Covington to BK

[PhillyFan11]

How bad is Luke Kennard’s defense? Is he at least playable or a total liability?

With Ja’s season now over and the Grizzlies going nowhere I wonder if they would be open for business. Kennard getting 5+ open looks from 3 a game in our offense could for sure be deadly

[the_process]

ATL gets Tobias, Morris, Korkmaz, 26 GSW 1st top 4 protected, 28 LAC 1st, 29 PHI 1st w/LAC swap, and their 2nds returned (26 and 28 from GSW)
BKN gets Murray and Looney
GSW gets Capela and Hunter
PHI gets Cam Johnson, CP3, and Moody

[Jailblazers7]

ATL gets Tobias, Morris, Korkmaz, 26 GSW 1st top 4 protected, 28 LAC 1st, 29 PHI 1st w/LAC swap, and their 2nds returned (26 and 28 from GSW)
BKN gets Murray and Looney
GSW gets Capela and Hunter
PHI gets Cam Johnson, CP3, and Moody

This one is really interesting, I kinda like it from each team’s perspective although GSW is giving up too much. They’d at least have to keep Moody or get draft comp to make it reasonable.

[the_process]

ATL gets Tobias, Morris, Korkmaz, 26 GSW 1st top 4 protected, 28 LAC 1st, 29 PHI 1st w/LAC swap, and their 2nds returned (26 and 28 from GSW)
BKN gets Murray and Looney
GSW gets Capela and Hunter
PHI gets Cam Johnson, CP3, and Moody

This one is really interesting, I kinda like it from each team’s perspective although GSW is giving up too much. They’d at least have to keep Moody or get draft comp to make it reasonable.

Maybe they change to lotto protection on their pick? They definitely owe something to upgrade Moody, Looney, and Paul to Hunter and Capela.

[Arsenal]

PHI out / POR in: Harris + Morris + 1st + 2nd
POR out / PHI in: Grant + Brogdon

PHI why: Gets us out of the tax this year and balances our roster, albeit at the cost of taking on long-term salary. Gives us a chance to win this season.

POR why: Clears long-term salary and gets assets. They probably waive Morris and let Harris play out the string, then can recoup more assets for him in an offseason sign and trade. Harris is a tank commander in the meantime, the role he was born for.

Who says no?

[the_process]

PHI out / POR in: Harris + Morris + 1st + 2nd
POR out / PHI in: Grant + Brogdon

PHI why: Gets us out of the tax this year and balances our roster, albeit at the cost of taking on long-term salary. Gives us a chance to win this season.

POR why: Clears long-term salary and gets assets. They probably waive Morris and let Harris play out the string, then can recoup more assets for him in an offseason sign and trade. Harris is a tank commander in the meantime, the role he was born for.

Who says no?

I would even be fine with adding another 2nd to this. The problem is Portland might want another 1st, and that just cannot happen.

[PhillyFan11]

PHI out / POR in: Harris + Morris + 1st + 2nd
POR out / PHI in: Grant + Brogdon

PHI why: Gets us out of the tax this year and balances our roster, albeit at the cost of taking on long-term salary. Gives us a chance to win this season.

POR why: Clears long-term salary and gets assets. They probably waive Morris and let Harris play out the string, then can recoup more assets for him in an offseason sign and trade. Harris is a tank commander in the meantime, the role he was born for.

Who says no?

I would even be fine with adding another 2nd to this. The problem is Portland might want another 1st, and that just cannot happen.

Yeah I think they’d want another 1st as well. Blazers may not be the smartest organization, but trading a 1st for Grant and then giving him a big extension only to turn around and trade him for no extra value doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. Not to mention there’s no real value for Brogdon there either, you’re not getting him for a 2nd

[youngcrev]

PHI out / POR in: Harris + Morris + 1st + 2nd
POR out / PHI in: Grant + Brogdon

PHI why: Gets us out of the tax this year and balances our roster, albeit at the cost of taking on long-term salary. Gives us a chance to win this season.

POR why: Clears long-term salary and gets assets. They probably waive Morris and let Harris play out the string, then can recoup more assets for him in an offseason sign and trade. Harris is a tank commander in the meantime, the role he was born for.

Who says no?

I'd do it.

My inner debate is... Does it make more sense as a deal without Tobias and Brogdon?

[youngcrev]

How bad is Luke Kennard’s defense? Is he at least playable or a total liability?

With Ja’s season now over and the Grizzlies going nowhere I wonder if they would be open for business. Kennard getting 5+ open looks from 3 a game in our offense could for sure be deadly

Too bad to put on the court with Maxey in a playoff series unless you're just gonna concede defense and play a zone.