PG: Knicks unclutch fall to Magic, Randle and Divo miss crucial freethrows

Post #461 » by **mpharris36** » Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:09 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
DAL pick IS protected but, will most likely convey this year. Ours will expire before we trade for a star as welI. There is no one on the market. I am not suggesting we have to trade them for Murray but, we have to use them before we can make a star trade. So however they want to do that is one thing. They absolutely HAVE TO do that in the next three weeks though. Otherwise they will have to use them in the draft and hope the players they get have the same value.

they can also you know make the selections...like Utah did with Kessler...and they can show out in SL and then be used as trade assets as well.

Yeah...I mentioned that. It's dumb and risky. What if they draft busts?

it is but its also risky to make a hasty trade as well. If you believe in your scouting and drafting (we found IQ and Grimes in the 20's) it shouldn't be too risky.

Jalen Bluntson · Post #462 » by **Jalen Bluntson** » Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:10 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:So much of what the Knicks do is based on Thibs circle of trust. That part is kinda ridiculous. He had Elf and Fournier in his circle of trust at one point. IQ never really could get in there for whatever reason. Randle is firmly in there. At one point Grimes was there but fell out.

Deuce maybe is earning it, but as soon as Brunson comes back he’ll be back to quick hooks. Crazy how Deuce couldn’t get 2 min and now playing 40….even with an injury

iHart wasn’t even starting over Sims. Took like 3 injuries for him to get there.

It’s all lunacy how fickle Thibs circle of trust is, and how quickly some move in and out, while others stay there no matter what.

Thibs has failed everywhere he went. We give him the keys and he's just as bad here as he was everywhere else. He burned out in Chicago after running players careers into the ground. He flamed out quick in Minny too. Now he's doing it here. He needs to go.

Trade Randle and Hart for the star they want and fire Thibs immediately.

TheGreenArrow · Post #463 » by **TheGreenArrow** » Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:11 pm

Hes_On_Fire wrote:
sol537 wrote:The best teams fill out their bench and future starters through the draft... see OKC, Denver, Boston...

We aren’t and will never be one of those franchises with forward thinking under Dolan.

Speaking of Dolan……………..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

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Post #464 » by **duetta** » Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:15 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:

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Post #465 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:17 pm

duetta wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:So much of what the Knicks do is based on Thibs circle of trust. That part is kinda ridiculous. He had Elf and Fournier in his circle of trust at one point. IQ never really could get in there for whatever reason. Randle is firmly in there. At one point Grimes was there but fell out.

Deuce maybe is earning it, but as soon as Brunson comes back he’ll be back to quick hooks. Crazy how Deuce couldn’t get 2 min and now playing 40….even with an injury

iHart wasn’t even starting over Sims. Took like 3 injuries for him to get there.

It’s all lunacy how fickle Thibs circle of trust is, and how quickly some move in and out, while others stay there no matter what.

Thibs is in year four of his deal. He will be a lame-duck coach next season unless they extend him. He turns 66 tomorrow. How much longer do they go with him?

Short of a collapse I think he’ll get extended. A lot of what the Knicks are doing is built around him. And to his credit he does get results in terms of wins. It can just come at a cost. And questions if his rigid style can lead us far in the playoffs .

Jalen Bluntson · Post #466 » by **Jalen Bluntson** » Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:19 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
they can also you know make the selections...like Utah did with Kessler...and they can show out in SL and then be used as trade assets as well.

Yeah...I mentioned that. It's dumb and risky. What if they draft busts?

it is but its also risky to make a hasty trade as well. If you believe in your scouting and drafting (we found IQ and Grimes in the 20's) it shouldn't be too risky.

There is more than one way to skin a cat but, we will risk punting a good playoff run this season and acquiring an available future asset by being too cheap. I guess that's ok for some but, I'm ready to make some noise now. This years picks hold no real value moving forward after the deadline unless we draft players that are good enough...AND we have to hope Thibs will even play them. That's a huge factor.

We shall see what they manage to get done. I put little to no stock in anything being reported because no one has had any insight to any trades we have made so far. None at all. Hart/OG were announced with no pre existing discussions in the media. Rose was out of nowhere. The media have zero sources in the Knicks FO.

nedleeds · Post #467 » by **nedleeds** » Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:22 pm

Still wiping the drool off my mouth from Orlandos young talented roster, stash of draft picks and cap situation. OKC East.

At least we have lots of CAA clients and a faux Villanova reunion.

DaGawd · Post #468 » by **DaGawd** » Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:23 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:
Hes_On_Fire wrote:
sol537 wrote:The best teams fill out their bench and future starters through the draft... see OKC, Denver, Boston...

We aren’t and will never be one of those franchises with forward thinking under Dolan.

Speaking of Dolan……………..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Read on Twitter
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Read on Twitter
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Buckle up Folkssssssssssssss the old Knicks are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if true this is probably enough for silver to force him to sell

bronxknicksfan1 · Post #469 » by **bronxknicksfan1** » Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:34 pm

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Get this bum off the team

gavran · Post #470 » by **gavran** » Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:34 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Thibs doesn't believe that children are the future

stuporman · Post #471 » by **stuporman** » Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:30 pm

It's wild the stories some of you come up with about what people are thinking and the motivations for what happens, you really have no clue. I'm not sure what anyone would get out of thinking you know this stuff but it's entertaining watching you people creative write some sports fanfic.

Iron Mantis · Post #472 » by **Iron Mantis** » Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:15 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:So much of what the Knicks do is based on Thibs circle of trust. That part is kinda ridiculous. He had Elf and Fournier in his circle of trust at one point. IQ never really could get in there for whatever reason. Randle is firmly in there. At one point Grimes was there but fell out.

Deuce maybe is earning it, but as soon as Brunson comes back he’ll be back to quick hooks. Crazy how Deuce couldn’t get 2 min and now playing 40….even with an injury

iHart wasn’t even starting over Sims. Took like 3 injuries for him to get there.

It’s all lunacy how fickle Thibs circle of trust is, and how quickly some move in and out, while others stay there no matter what.

Thibs has failed everywhere he went. We give him the keys and he's just as bad here as he was everywhere else. He burned out in Chicago after running players careers into the ground. He flamed out quick in Minny too. Now he's doing it here. He needs to go.

Trade Randle and Hart for the star they want and fire Thibs immediately.

thebuzzardman · Post #473 » by **thebuzzardman** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:08 am

duetta wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:So much of what the Knicks do is based on Thibs circle of trust. That part is kinda ridiculous. He had Elf and Fournier in his circle of trust at one point. IQ never really could get in there for whatever reason. Randle is firmly in there. At one point Grimes was there but fell out.

Deuce maybe is earning it, but as soon as Brunson comes back he’ll be back to quick hooks. Crazy how Deuce couldn’t get 2 min and now playing 40….even with an injury

iHart wasn’t even starting over Sims. Took like 3 injuries for him to get there.

It’s all lunacy how fickle Thibs circle of trust is, and how quickly some move in and out, while others stay there no matter what.

Thibs is in year four of his deal. He will be a lame-duck coach next season unless they extend him. He turns 66 tomorrow. How much longer do they go with him?

They should just feed him hot pastrami sandwiches every night and let nature take it's course. New coach in 2025!

TheGreenArrow · Post #474 » by **TheGreenArrow** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:24 am

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Even former nba players calling out Julius!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fat Kat · Post #475 » by **Fat Kat** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:48 am

TheGreenArrow wrote:

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Even former nba players calling out Julius!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everyone sees it but Thibs. We need to turn up the public pressure.

god shammgod · Post #476 » by **god shammgod** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:52 am

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thebuzzardman · Post #477 » by **thebuzzardman** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:55 am

god shammgod wrote:

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Thibs played his pets into the ground and now has to euthanize them

thebuzzardman · Post #478 » by **thebuzzardman** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:56 am

Thibs going to take Randle, Brunson and Hart out back of MSG and do the "Old Yeller" on them.

Jalen Bluntson · Post #479 » by **Jalen Bluntson** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:10 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
god shammgod wrote:

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Thibs played his pets into the ground and now has to euthanize them

Time the front office sit him down and have that talk. It's been long overdue! There are 15 players on the roster. You have to use more than 9 of them BEFORE players get hurt. I want him gone ASAP. Thibs/Randle/Hart can all STFU and GTFO. They are bums.

Clyde_Style · Post #480 » by **Clyde_Style** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 4:37 am

duetta wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:

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Not the picture you want floating around the internet...

It must have been Weinstein Dolan was referring to in The Straight Shot's song Brother From Another Mother