76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1

[M2J]

If the talks between these two flops, we will have Siakam for our own.

I’ll be pissed if we drop 3 firsts on 4 months of Siakam.

I dont think anyone will trade for him unless they get a commitment. Windy talked about it on his podcast that a deal most likely involves a deal with his agent first where they get assurance of him re-signing.

How NBA-legal is it for this tampering to be reported openly

[76ciology]

I’ll be pissed if we drop 3 firsts on 4 months of Siakam.

I dont think anyone will trade for him unless they get a commitment. Windy talked about it on his podcast that a deal most likely involves a deal with his agent first where they get assurance of him re-signing.

How NBA-legal is it for this tampering to be reported openly

Its not tampering if no teams complain

[76ciology]

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Dunker spot is open

[76ciology]

I dont mind giving up a pick and a swap for Jonathan Isaac. He’s a buy low guy that could worth a lot more when healthy.

[Zumramania]

Boston has such a great first team, and it is amazing how little they gave up to acquire White, Holiday and Porzingis. Great GM-ing. They low-key have the best starting lineup since that Warriors team, at least on paper. In reality I think that Brown and Tatum do not always play like real stars. I think that with a healthy Embiid and a 3rd scorer acquired via trade we could beat Boston. Without a fully healthy Embiid we will lose in the second round anyway...

[Iverson Armband]

Apparently the asking price for Murray is 2 firsts. If one of those firsts is this year's and the other is protected, isn't this an obvious yes from us?

I don't think so. I mean, the price is right. And there's still a scenario where you could renounce everyone but Maxey and have around 37M in cap space (trading Reed and Springer). I'm just not sold on the fit. We freak out about Tobias being ineffective off ball, not sure Murray wouldn't have the same issues.

Seems like we'd want him to play a similar role to what Atlanta had in mind when they acquired him (take the tougher defensive assignment from Trae, secondary ball handler, primary initiator when Trae is off the floor)... And they're looking to trade him.

They’re looking to trade him because they suck and he’s the only thing of value they have to try to get picks (not trading Trae).

[Negrodamus]

I dont think anyone will trade for him unless they get a commitment. Windy talked about it on his podcast that a deal most likely involves a deal with his agent first where they get assurance of him re-signing.

How NBA-legal is it for this tampering to be reported openly

Its not tampering if no teams complain

I imagine there’ll be many that do complain that he never made it to free agency despite telling everyone he was not going to re-sign with anyone other than the Raptors for the max.

[76ciology]

How NBA-legal is it for this tampering to be reported openly

Its not tampering if no teams complain

I imagine there’ll be many that do complain that he never made it to free agency despite telling everyone he was not going to re-sign with anyone other than the Raptors for the max.

I think if he’s traded to the Pacers then he just signs with the Sixers in the offseason, Pacers will complain about tampering

Windy provided an example involving David Griffin's attempt to trade for Kevin Love in anticipation of LeBron James. Love's agent initially informed Griffin that Love wouldn't re-sign with the team. Consequently, Griffin shifted his focus and tried to acquire Gordon Hayward. However, the situation changed when Love's agent later learned that LeBron intended to sign with the Cavs. Subsequently, the agent called Griffin, stating that Love would re-sign if traded to the Cavaliers.

[76ciology]

Apparently the asking price for Murray is 2 firsts. If one of those firsts is this year's and the other is protected, isn't this an obvious yes from us?

I don't think so. I mean, the price is right. And there's still a scenario where you could renounce everyone but Maxey and have around 37M in cap space (trading Reed and Springer). I'm just not sold on the fit. We freak out about Tobias being ineffective off ball, not sure Murray wouldn't have the same issues.

Seems like we'd want him to play a similar role to what Atlanta had in mind when they acquired him (take the tougher defensive assignment from Trae, secondary ball handler, primary initiator when Trae is off the floor)... And they're looking to trade him.

They’re looking to trade him because they suck and he’s the only thing of value they have to try to get picks (not trading Trae).

They’re looking to trade him because he suck and they’re looking for a fool that would get him off their team.

I expect him to land with the Lakers or the Nets.

[Negrodamus]

I bet quietly we're having intense negotiations for Brogdon. Morey definitely doesn't want to give up a first for him because it'll affect future trades, but his fit with Maxey is pretty perfect and would give us an actual starting vet level PG on the roster. The only apprehension would be his additional year under contract.

Maxey
Brogdon
Batum
Tobias
Embiid

That actually is a more cohesive starting five than with Melton, imo. Brogdon isn't my favorite guy to target, but it makes sense given the current situation across the NBA.

[Stanford]

To those who think he sucks, would you give 1 first for him?

[Covi_Marsh]

I bet quietly we're having intense negotiations for Brogdon. Morey definitely doesn't want to give up a first for him because it'll affect future trades, but his fit with Maxey is pretty perfect and would give us an actual starting vet level PG on the roster. The only apprehension would be his additional year under contract.

Maxey
Brogdon
Batum
Tobias
Embiid

That actually is a more cohesive starting five than with Melton, imo. Brogdon isn't my favorite guy to target, but it makes sense given the current situation across the NBA.

Not like there’s any players we could sign with the cap space. Brogdan would be a 22.5 mil expiring this summer. We could use that to help salary match in trades because that’s the only way we will be able to get a 3rd star if that’s the ultimate plan.

Expirings and/or 2 yr deals should both be doable in trades before the deadline.

[Negrodamus]

I bet quietly we're having intense negotiations for Brogdon. Morey definitely doesn't want to give up a first for him because it'll affect future trades, but his fit with Maxey is pretty perfect and would give us an actual starting vet level PG on the roster. The only apprehension would be his additional year under contract.

Maxey
Brogdon
Batum
Tobias
Embiid

That actually is a more cohesive starting five than with Melton, imo. Brogdon isn't my favorite guy to target, but it makes sense given the current situation across the NBA.

Not like there’s any players we could sign with the cap space. Brogdan would be a 22.5 mil expiring this summer. We could use that to help salary match in trades because that’s the only way we will be able to get a 3rd star if that’s the ultimate plan.

Expirings and/or 2 yr deals should both be doable in trades before the deadline.

Wouldn't it be next summer when he expires? Or am I reading his contract wrong?

[Covi_Marsh]

I bet quietly we're having intense negotiations for Brogdon. Morey definitely doesn't want to give up a first for him because it'll affect future trades, but his fit with Maxey is pretty perfect and would give us an actual starting vet level PG on the roster. The only apprehension would be his additional year under contract.

Maxey
Brogdon
Batum
Tobias
Embiid

That actually is a more cohesive starting five than with Melton, imo. Brogdon isn't my favorite guy to target, but it makes sense given the current situation across the NBA.

Not like there’s any players we could sign with the cap space. Brogdan would be a 22.5 mil expiring this summer. We could use that to help salary match in trades because that’s the only way we will be able to get a 3rd star if that’s the ultimate plan.

Expirings and/or 2 yr deals should both be doable in trades before the deadline.

Wouldn't it be next summer when he expires? Or am I reading his contract wrong?

Yes it would be next summer he would expire. He would be on a 1yr deal after this season. I don’t see any max level players available to sign into cap space so his 22.5 mil contract could be used in a trade for a star when they ask for picks and expirings this offseason.

[Jailblazers7]

My only hesitation with Murray is that he seems like a knucklehead. Otherwise, I like the fit. Our offense becomes more dynamic & we can add more Maxey off ball actions because we have another ball handler. He’s got the defensive tools & I think he’d return to form on a contender with good chemistry.

We need another playmaker/guard to pair with Maxey AND a wing/forward that can hang with the Jays in Boston. It’s going to be much more difficult to land that wing via trade given positional value. With the addition of Murray, we can also focus on role player caliber wings with elite defense. Maybe we try to use cap space to get Pat Williams in RFA. Or use our remaining draft capital on a Herb Jones deal.

For only 2 FRPs, the Murray trade would open up a lot of flexibility for our next move. Assuming the Morey & Nurse see him as a long-term fit of course.

[Iverson Armband]

I wonder if we could swing a deal for Murray and De’Andre Hunter. Kind of kills two birds with one stone. Playmaking guard and a wing to help against Boston. Tobias, Springer, 2 FRPs, a 2nd and a swap for Murray and Hunter?

[76ciology]

Have you guys checked Dejounte’s on vs off numbers? Include last season and last season’s playoffs. Tell me what you think.

Clue: His team is much better when he’s off the court

[Covi_Marsh]

Tobias > Hunter

[Negrodamus]

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Obviously he's a freak of nature, but I'd bet one of the main reasons he's not in the post as much anymore is because he starts dragging ass after 3 times up and down the court. Instead he goes 3/4 of the way up the court and can usually walk back unless it's a fast break.

[zaz102]

[Charania] The 76ers are expected to be "measured" at the trade deadline. Interest in guys like Dejounte Murray, Zach LaVine, and Pascal Siakam is there, but they are not nearly as aggressive as other teams have been for those names. Likelier to "make a move around the edges" for the bench.

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