76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1

[Jailblazers7]

Have you guys checked Dejounte’s on vs off numbers? Include last season and last season’s playoffs. Tell me what you think.

Clue: His team is much better when he’s off the court

Trae Young’s on/off numbers are also abysmal this year for the first time. I haven’t watched their games but something is clear wrong with that team generally. I’m not going to advocate that hard for him because there are enough flags to avoid him but the vision Atlanta had for that roster & Murray’s role on it was misguided.

There’s a reason his market price is on the lower side for a player of his talent. The big question to me is whether he’s a personality fit. Can he accept a role as #3 & commit to Nurse’s system? I have no idea but our decision makers likely have a lot more info on that than I do.

[youngcrev]

Apparently the asking price for Murray is 2 firsts. If one of those firsts is this year's and the other is protected, isn't this an obvious yes from us?

I don't think so. I mean, the price is right. And there's still a scenario where you could renounce everyone but Maxey and have around 37M in cap space (trading Reed and Springer). I'm just not sold on the fit. We freak out about Tobias being ineffective off ball, not sure Murray wouldn't have the same issues.

Seems like we'd want him to play a similar role to what Atlanta had in mind when they acquired him (take the tougher defensive assignment from Trae, secondary ball handler, primary initiator when Trae is off the floor)... And they're looking to trade him.

They’re looking to trade him because they suck and he’s the only thing of value they have to try to get picks (not trading Trae).

...doesn't he have anything to do with them sucking?

We're not that far removed from that team that went to ECF. They went .500 after acquiring him last year, thinking he'd be a difference maker. They suck this year. They've also been a better team on both sides of the floor when he's on the bench.

I think he's a well rounded player, but I don't trust the shot, and he's not getting more on ball reps going from Trae's #2 to Embiid/Maxey's #3 (or 4 if Tobias is here?). And he's not an impactful defender (particularly compared to the guy he'd be replacing in the lineup).

Bogdanovic would have more of an impact as an additive piece to this team at a lesser cost (both asset wise and financially) if we're looking at Atlanta guards.

[NYSixersFan]

I know he's semi washed, but I would trade for Klay Thompson.

[zaz102]

I'd like Brogdon as a trade deadline deal if nobody else is available and doesn't require a 1st. He would be a decent fit for the playoff run and would be an good sized expiring for next year to help facilitate an offseason/midseason deal.

[sixerswillrule]

I bet quietly we're having intense negotiations for Brogdon. Morey definitely doesn't want to give up a first for him because it'll affect future trades, but his fit with Maxey is pretty perfect and would give us an actual starting vet level PG on the roster. The only apprehension would be his additional year under contract.

Maxey
Brogdon
Batum
Tobias
Embiid

That actually is a more cohesive starting five than with Melton, imo. Brogdon isn't my favorite guy to target, but it makes sense given the current situation across the NBA.

In theory he's a great fit but the injury history is definitely a concern.

There's no doubt this team needs someone like him though to have a legit shot in the playoffs. Maxey is being relied on too much on the ball.

[sodmoraes]

I just dont like Murray,seems like a empty stats guy. I know Lavine isnt all that, but i prefer him than Dejonte. He´s an explosive scorer, can handle a bit, has good size( i think he can be a decent defender here) and would be make things way easier to Maxey. Brogdon would be ideal.

[Kova]

Pacers traded for Siakam.

Toronto gets Bruce Brown, Nwora and 3 FRPs..

The way I see it, Pacers gave up a great glue guy in Brown and 3 FRPs for a 5-month rental.

[Mik317]

Pascal to the Pacers for Brown and 3 picks

again because the players we have to offer are washed and our picks are obvious mid...our offers are going to come from desperate teams looking to save money or stupid teams.

[M2J]

I just dont like Murray,seems like a empty stats guy. I know Lavine isnt all that, but i prefer him than Dejonte. He´s an explosive scorer, can handle a bit, has good size( i think he can be a decent defender here) and would be make things way easier to Maxey. Brogdon would be ideal.

Empty stat guys (whether I agree or disagree) can help you win if they're not a top option.

I have watched some hawks games recently. I like him, he's had some explosive games that have carried them to victories, big shots too. I trust the shot, because I know the idea last year was for Trae to play off the ball more and he fought against that. So Murray got in the lab and has made himself a really good off ball threat, and he has a quick trigger and not afraid... The beauty of him is because of his overall abilities the issues that come in the playoffs are lessened... Especially now that Maxey has a green light and isn't afraid, and there isn't a ball stopping choker in Harden or Ben . Teams overload on Joel and he doesn't have Joker like passing, But having another aggressive playmaker that can penetrate and create his shot or others is a big deal. 2 of them is better, especially if Tobi is hanging around too. They should be able to feast on the coverages Joel creates

[M2J]

Pascal to the Pacers for Brown and 3 picks

again because the players we have to offer are washed and our picks are obvious mid...our offers are going to come from desperate teams looking to save money or stupid teams.

So Chicago then?

[Mik317]

again the ideal is that these guys in a lesser role and with the gravity of Jo it opens up things....as it has for Oubre for example. Look at all of the guys who left sans Harden....they are having bad seasons. Wide open looks for LaVine that Tobias doesn't like to take could be deadly, no?

but again that creates more pressure on our aging or dumb wing rotation .

[Murray_17]

Pascal to the Pacers for Brown and 3 picks

again because the players we have to offer are washed and our picks are obvious mid...our offers are going to come from desperate teams looking to save money or stupid teams.

That's a bad package for Toronto, tbh.

I just think we never were interested, 3 picks and Brown is something you could upper using a third team or putting Springer and other stuff there.

[M2J]

again the ideal is that these guys in a lesser role and with the gravity of Jo it opens up things....as it has for Oubre for example. Look at all of the guys who left sans Harden....they are having bad seasons. Wide open looks for LaVine that Tobias doesn't like to take could be deadly, no?

but again that creates more pressure on our aging or dumb wing rotation .

There's a path that if Chicago is willing to take on 5 contracts that Batum, Oubre and Tobi could stay with a Lavine trade.

[Mik317]

again the ideal is that these guys in a lesser role and with the gravity of Jo it opens up things....as it has for Oubre for example. Look at all of the guys who left sans Harden....they are having bad seasons. Wide open looks for LaVine that Tobias doesn't like to take could be deadly, no?

but again that creates more pressure on our aging or dumb wing rotation .

There's a path that if Chicago is willing to take on 5 contracts that Batum, Oubre and Tobi could stay with a Lavine trade.

then you probably should do it then.

[M2J]

Pascal to the Pacers for Brown and 3 picks

again because the players we have to offer are washed and our picks are obvious mid...our offers are going to come from desperate teams looking to save money or stupid teams.

That's a bad package for Toronto, tbh.

I just think we never were interested, 3 picks and Brown is something you could upper using a third team or putting Springer and other stuff there.

I feel like if Indiana wanted to make some noise they needed to keep Brown. But I don't really know their team.

I'd say Masai has done a good job rebuilding on the fly around Barnes. Brown helps this year and can be traded next year as an expiring to a contender maybe for another pick or so

[M2J]

again the ideal is that these guys in a lesser role and with the gravity of Jo it opens up things....as it has for Oubre for example. Look at all of the guys who left sans Harden....they are having bad seasons. Wide open looks for LaVine that Tobias doesn't like to take could be deadly, no?

but again that creates more pressure on our aging or dumb wing rotation .

There's a path that if Chicago is willing to take on 5 contracts that Batum, Oubre and Tobi could stay with a Lavine trade.

then you probably should do it then.

Morris, Covington, KJ, Springer, Furk

If Philly trades Tobi it should include Caruso for Covington and Tobias into Lavine and Alex

[Negrodamus]

Read on Twitter

Probably something to watch.

[NYSixersFan]

Pascal to the Pacers for Brown and 3 picks

again because the players we have to offer are washed and our picks are obvious mid...our offers are going to come from desperate teams looking to save money or stupid teams.

The Clippers unprotected pick is worth more than the 3 1st round picks the Pacers traded.

[sixers hoops]

Read on Twitter

Probably something to watch.

For us? I feel like that player option would be a turnoff for Morey.

[zaz102]

Read on Twitter

Probably something to watch.

For us? I feel like that player option would be a turnoff for Morey.

We should start a list.

Morey Turn offs:
Player options

Morey Turn ons:
Big beards
Texans