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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#321 » by WuTang_CMB » Sun Jan 21, 2024 11:53 pm

its clear they both discussed theres a good chance he gets traded again.

He's a good player and a good fit on any contender. A team will pay for him

wouldnt be shocked if the Heat offered a first and Lowry
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#322 » by Brinbe » Sun Jan 21, 2024 11:53 pm

tdotrep2 wrote:highly doubt you can get a first AND a quality player... why would a contender give up a rotation guy and a first for another rotation guy.

bruce is a proven rotation guy on a championship team. those guys will have extra value. plus the quality guy may be someone that's not in favor with their current team. the oft-mentioned grimes/fournier+1st deal is an example.

wouldn't surprise me if that's the deal made, but who knows what else is out there.

but in order to rebuild and make up for the talent drain, that's what masai's gotta continue doing. stretch out those assets as much as he can.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#323 » by bballsparkin » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:00 am

ATLTimekeeper wrote:He can't force his way anywhere. He could literally say "I'm a Knick" and the Raptors will still trade him to an armpit for the highest return. There's no leverage.


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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#324 » by SpezNc » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:00 am

Bruin wrote:
Lord_Zedd wrote:
Read on Twitter

“Future” first round pick likely means we’re not taking anymore of the 2024 picks. We want a 2025 or 2026 pick


I agree in theory with plan.

But what if there is only one 2024 FRP on the table?

At the end of the day my hope is we continue to accumulate draft capital.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#325 » by PushDaRock » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:05 am

ItsDanger wrote:
SpezNc wrote:[x]
Read on Twitter
?s=61&t=i9oiV7V_IVKI_hyZ3OS-wA[/x]

Is he implying a swap pick? Or actually get an additional 1st rounder?

He was available cheap in 2022 offseason. They signed injury prone 50 games max OPJ before Brown signed with Denver.

I call BS on these claims a GM was interested or coveted a certain player for years. It's just filler for social media clicks at this point.


Not sure how that's relevant. We don't attract FA's here, It's not like we signed Porter for more money.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#326 » by ItsDanger » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:06 am

PushDaRock wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:
SpezNc wrote:[x]
Read on Twitter
?s=61&t=i9oiV7V_IVKI_hyZ3OS-wA[/x]

Is he implying a swap pick? Or actually get an additional 1st rounder?

He was available cheap in 2022 offseason. They signed injury prone 50 games max OPJ before Brown signed with Denver.

I call BS on these claims a GM was interested or coveted a certain player for years. It's just filler for social media clicks at this point.


Not sure how that's relevant. We don't attract FA's here, It's not like we signed Porter for more money.

Check their contracts in 2022. Its entirely relevant.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#327 » by Zeno » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:08 am

SpezNc wrote:
Bruin wrote:
Lord_Zedd wrote:
Read on Twitter

“Future” first round pick likely means we’re not taking anymore of the 2024 picks. We want a 2025 or 2026 pick


I agree in theory with plan.

But what if there is only one 2024 FRP on the table?

At the end of the day my hope is we continue to accumulate draft capital.

In the end, it might be a case of trading the okc 2024 pick for a team’s 2025 pick
For example teams like the Kings, who owe a protected 1st, won’t be able to trade a first for multiple years. But that super late pick in 2024 frees up the future 1sts.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#328 » by PushDaRock » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:11 am

ItsDanger wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:He was available cheap in 2022 offseason. They signed injury prone 50 games max OPJ before Brown signed with Denver.

I call BS on these claims a GM was interested or coveted a certain player for years. It's just filler for social media clicks at this point.


Not sure how that's relevant. We don't attract FA's here, It's not like we signed Porter for more money.

Check their contracts in 2022. Its entirely relevant.


They got nearly identical deals, both with player options. How is that relevant?
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#329 » by SpezNc » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:14 am

WuTang_OG wrote:its clear they both discussed theres a good chance he gets traded again.

He's a good player and a good fit on any contender. A team will pay for him

wouldnt be shocked if the Heat offered a first and Lowry


Would be EPIC. In cap lock.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#330 » by SpezNc » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:15 am

Zeno wrote:
SpezNc wrote:
Bruin wrote:“Future” first round pick likely means we’re not taking anymore of the 2024 picks. We want a 2025 or 2026 pick


I agree in theory with plan.

But what if there is only one 2024 FRP on the table?

At the end of the day my hope is we continue to accumulate draft capital.

In the end, it might be a case of trading the okc 2024 pick for a team’s 2025 pick
For example teams like the Kings, who owe a protected 1st, won’t be able to trade a first for multiple years. But that super late pick in 2024 frees up the future 1sts.


Interesting
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#331 » by ItsDanger » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:23 am

PushDaRock wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
Not sure how that's relevant. We don't attract FA's here, It's not like we signed Porter for more money.

Check their contracts in 2022. Its entirely relevant.


They got nearly identical deals, both with player options. How is that relevant?

Because they could have signed him first instead of an injury prone guy that most GMs would have avoided just to get shooting. If its true they were interested for years that is. But that line is BS, lets be honest about it.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#332 » by ForeverTFC » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:36 am

ItsDanger wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:He was available cheap in 2022 offseason. They signed injury prone 50 games max OPJ before Brown signed with Denver.

I call BS on these claims a GM was interested or coveted a certain player for years. It's just filler for social media clicks at this point.


Not sure how that's relevant. We don't attract FA's here, It's not like we signed Porter for more money.

Check their contracts in 2022. Its entirely relevant.


Brown could easily have said no in the past. Just because we signed OPJ doesn’t mean we didn’t check in on him.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#333 » by PushDaRock » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:36 am

ItsDanger wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Check their contracts in 2022. Its entirely relevant.


They got nearly identical deals, both with player options. How is that relevant?

Because they could have signed him first instead of an injury prone guy that most GMs would have avoided just to get shooting. If its true they were interested for years that is. But that line is BS, lets be honest about it.


Go check the dates. Brown agreed to the Nuggets deal on the first day of Free Agency. We got the Porter deal done on the third day. Doesn't take a genius to figure out Porter probably wasn't our first option.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#334 » by ItsDanger » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:38 am

ForeverTFC wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
Not sure how that's relevant. We don't attract FA's here, It's not like we signed Porter for more money.

Check their contracts in 2022. Its entirely relevant.


Brown could easily have said no in the past. Just because we signed OPJ doesn’t mean we didn’t check in on him.

I posted at least twice on this topic before, Brown stated on video in a podcast that he got no serious interest, Denver then offered and he took it. That doesn't sound like serious interest for years
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#335 » by ItsDanger » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:41 am

PushDaRock wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
They got nearly identical deals, both with player options. How is that relevant?

Because they could have signed him first instead of an injury prone guy that most GMs would have avoided just to get shooting. If its true they were interested for years that is. But that line is BS, lets be honest about it.


Go check the dates. Brown agreed to the Nuggets deal on the first day of Free Agency. We got the Porter deal done on the third day. Doesn't take a genius to figure out Porter probably wasn't our first option.

Official or unofficial? Brown said on video he got no serious interest. I take him at his word.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#336 » by PushDaRock » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:43 am

ItsDanger wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Because they could have signed him first instead of an injury prone guy that most GMs would have avoided just to get shooting. If its true they were interested for years that is. But that line is BS, lets be honest about it.


Go check the dates. Brown agreed to the Nuggets deal on the first day of Free Agency. We got the Porter deal done on the third day. Doesn't take a genius to figure out Porter probably wasn't our first option.

Official or unofficial? Brown said on video he got no serious interest. I take him at his word.


https://milehighsports.com/denver-nuggets-sign-wing-bruce-brown-to-two-year-contract-nba-free-agency/

Couldn't have been that little interest if he agreed to the deal on the first day.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#337 » by ItsDanger » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:47 am

PushDaRock wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
Go check the dates. Brown agreed to the Nuggets deal on the first day of Free Agency. We got the Porter deal done on the third day. Doesn't take a genius to figure out Porter probably wasn't our first option.

Official or unofficial? Brown said on video he got no serious interest. I take him at his word.


https://milehighsports.com/denver-nuggets-sign-wing-bruce-brown-to-two-year-contract-nba-free-agency/

Couldn't have been that little interest if he agreed to the deal on the first day.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportsnet.ca/nba/report-raptors-otto-porter-jr-agree-to-two-year-deal-with-player-option/sn-amp/

July 1st. Deals are often negotiated earlier than that.

Unofficially.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#338 » by PushDaRock » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:53 am

ItsDanger wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Official or unofficial? Brown said on video he got no serious interest. I take him at his word.


https://milehighsports.com/denver-nuggets-sign-wing-bruce-brown-to-two-year-contract-nba-free-agency/

Couldn't have been that little interest if he agreed to the deal on the first day.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportsnet.ca/nba/report-raptors-otto-porter-jr-agree-to-two-year-deal-with-player-option/sn-amp/

July 1st. Deals are often negotiated earlier than that.

Unofficially.


Regardless, like I said it's not like we gave more money to Porter. He got slightly more money in Denver and into a better situation. I don't see how it's implausible that we had interest in him.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#339 » by ItsDanger » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:55 am

PushDaRock wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
https://milehighsports.com/denver-nuggets-sign-wing-bruce-brown-to-two-year-contract-nba-free-agency/

Couldn't have been that little interest if he agreed to the deal on the first day.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportsnet.ca/nba/report-raptors-otto-porter-jr-agree-to-two-year-deal-with-player-option/sn-amp/

July 1st. Deals are often negotiated earlier than that.

Unofficially.


Regardless, like I said it's not like we gave more money to Porter. He got slightly more money in Denver and into a better situation. I don't see how it's implausible that we had interest in him.

Unless Brown was lying, they had little interest in signing him in 2022 as a free agent. So i dont take these lines "interested for years" seriously anymore. Its being used way too often.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#340 » by Zeno » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:10 am

We really arguing that gms make stuff up. Spoiler they make stuff up.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

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