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Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Regular Season - Thread 3.0 

Post#1061 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:24 pm

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Facts. And even our stars are pressed to overcompensate for the lack of a lead guard.

Get a facilitating scoring guard and suddenly Bam can be the beneficiary of more created looks in the pick and roll (and a lot less double teams), we can avoid scoring droughts when Jimmy's not on, Herro can focus on running around getting open looks as an off-ball shooter (and still be a secondary playmaker), guys like JRich and Caleb can focus exclusively on 3 and D.

The lack of skill from the guard rotation is placing a drag on every player in the lineup.


And this has been an issue for the last 2 seasons at minimum. It’s glaring and it needs to be corrected.

Like Caleb and Jrich specialize as 3 and D slashing guys off the ball, why the hell are they our starting and backup PGs?! It’s hard to even get a gauge on some of these guys, especially the cheap labor guys to see if they could really contribute to a championship.

Bammy what's your thoughts on Miles Bridges? I remember having this conversation with Beenie not so long ago and he was a big proponent of bringing him in. Thought the likely hood was slim because of his past and Klutch ties but if the organization is looking for a cheap homerun play and looking to add dynamic scorer and bully at the 4 then Bridges would have to be high up there. If the Heat trust it's locker room and culture then you would think he's worth the risk. If it don't work out you just let him walk or work out a S&T in offseason. But to add two more 20 point scorers to your lineup in Rozier and Bridges would be pretty sweet. I'm looking deep into this because of Bridges easy contract to bring back in trade with Rozier without having to get overly complicated with Robinson's deal.


I mean I think if you’re a grown man and you put your hands on a woman you’re a b!tch. Doing it when you’re a giant at 6’7 230 is even worse. I also think people deserve a second chance, he’s young and dumb. We had no issues bringing in Nunn or James Johnson when they did the same thing and he’s much more talented than both of them.

I mean you said it in your post; he’s a 4. That’s our 2nd biggest position of need. Hes talented and and scorer, that’s what I’ve been harping on us missing. I think if you can add Rozier PJW and Bridges that’s a massive upgrade to the roster and I trust Spo to bring out the best in all of them.

Rozier/Herro
Duncan/JJJ
Jimmy/Highsmith
PJW/Bridges
Bam/Love

That’s a far superior 10 man rotation to what we have now.
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Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Regular Season - Thread 3.0 

Post#1062 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:26 pm

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And this has been an issue for the last 2 seasons at minimum. It’s glaring and it needs to be corrected.

Like Caleb and Jrich specialize as 3 and D slashing guys off the ball, why the hell are they our starting and backup PGs?! It’s hard to even get a gauge on some of these guys, especially the cheap labor guys to see if they could really contribute to a championship.

Bammy what's your thoughts on Miles Bridges? I remember having this conversation with Beenie not so long ago and he was a big proponent of bringing him in. Thought the likely hood was slim because of his past and Klutch ties but if the organization is looking for a cheap homerun play and looking to add dynamic scorer and bully at the 4 then Bridges would have to be high up there. If the Heat trust it's locker room and culture then you would think he's worth the risk. If it don't work out you just let him walk or work out a S&T in offseason. But to add two more 20 point scorers to your lineup in Rozier and Bridges would be pretty sweet. I'm looking deep into this because of Bridges easy contract to bring back in trade with Rozier without having to get overly complicated with Robinson's deal.


I mean I think if you’re a grown man and you put your hands on a woman you’re a b!tch. Doing it when you’re a giant at 6’7 230 is even worse. I also think people deserve a second chance, he’s young and dumb. We had no issues bringing in Nunn or James Johnson when they did the same thing and he’s much more talented than both of them.

I mean you said it in your post; he’s a 4. That’s our 2nd biggest position of need. Hes talented and and scorer, that’s what I’ve been harping on us missing. I think if you can add Rozier PJW and Bridges that’s a massive upgrade to the roster and I trust Spo to bring out the best in all of them.

Rozier/Herro
Duncan/JJJ
Jimmy/Highsmith
PJW/Bridges
Bam/Love

That’s a far superior 10 man rotation to what we have now.

Always getting greedy Bammy hahahaha. No way both PJW and Bridges come in this deal. I only mentioned Bridges because of the trade checker numbers of Lowry and Jovic for Rozier and Bridges almost hitting the numbers to the tee.

Bridges
Rozier
Ish Smith

33.1 in for Heat

Lowy
Jovic
Dru Smith

33.8 in for Hornets
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Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Regular Season - Thread 3.0 

Post#1063 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:32 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Bammy what's your thoughts on Miles Bridges? I remember having this conversation with Beenie not so long ago and he was a big proponent of bringing him in. Thought the likely hood was slim because of his past and Klutch ties but if the organization is looking for a cheap homerun play and looking to add dynamic scorer and bully at the 4 then Bridges would have to be high up there. If the Heat trust it's locker room and culture then you would think he's worth the risk. If it don't work out you just let him walk or work out a S&T in offseason. But to add two more 20 point scorers to your lineup in Rozier and Bridges would be pretty sweet. I'm looking deep into this because of Bridges easy contract to bring back in trade with Rozier without having to get overly complicated with Robinson's deal.


I mean I think if you’re a grown man and you put your hands on a woman you’re a b!tch. Doing it when you’re a giant at 6’7 230 is even worse. I also think people deserve a second chance, he’s young and dumb. We had no issues bringing in Nunn or James Johnson when they did the same thing and he’s much more talented than both of them.

I mean you said it in your post; he’s a 4. That’s our 2nd biggest position of need. Hes talented and and scorer, that’s what I’ve been harping on us missing. I think if you can add Rozier PJW and Bridges that’s a massive upgrade to the roster and I trust Spo to bring out the best in all of them.

Rozier/Herro
Duncan/JJJ
Jimmy/Highsmith
PJW/Bridges
Bam/Love

That’s a far superior 10 man rotation to what we have now.

Always getting greedy Bammy hahahaha. No way both PJW and Bridges come in this deal. I only mentioned Bridges because of the trade checker numbers of Lowry and Jovic for Rozier and Bridges almost hitting the numbers to the tee.

Bridges
Rozier
Ish Smith

33.1 in for Heat

Lowy
Jovic
Dru Smith

33.8 in for Hornets


Haha I’m down for that! We had a log jam with both coming in anyways!!

Rozier/Herro
Duncan/JJJ
Jimmy/Martin
Highsmith/Bridges
Bam/Love

I’m just giving you the rotation that gives us the best chance of winning games!!!
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Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Regular Season - Thread 3.0 

Post#1064 » by batterybro42 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:32 pm

I would take Deangelo Russle if we could swap him out with Lowry

He’s more of what this team needs than Murray in my opinion. Miami needs a facilitator and I actually like Dlo’s game I feel like playing on the same team as LeBron hides a lot of what he’s good at.

He can create and create offense for others when given the opportunity to do so
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Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Regular Season - Thread 3.0 

Post#1065 » by SA37 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:33 pm

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Post#1066 » by SA37 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:35 pm

Wiltside wrote:Bam has improved every year. He’s a top 20 guy in the league. Not concerned with him.


Top-20 is probably a bit generous. I'd say more likely between 30-40.
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Post#1067 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:35 pm

Rex you’re about to convince me on Jerami Grant but I just know the Heat would never do that unless they were getting draft compensation back as well.

Rozier
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Jimmy
Grant
Bam

You can’t tell me that’s not far better than what we currently have!!
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Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Regular Season - Thread 3.0 

Post#1068 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:36 pm

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Wiltside wrote:Bam has improved every year. He’s a top 20 guy in the league. Not concerned with him.


Top-20 is probably a bit generous. I'd say more likely between 30-40.


Name 30 better :lol:
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Post#1069 » by VaDe255 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:36 pm

If they wanna be cheap they could try and get in on the Lakers deal and give Hawks some value, then use the Mills expiring to get D.Wright from the Wizards for a 2nd.

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Post#1070 » by SA37 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:36 pm

Bmaster wrote:Must get rid of Lowry 2 points in 25 minutes. Had 3 nice assist


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Post#1071 » by AirP. » Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:38 pm

I wonder if Miami and Brooklyn could come up near...

Lowry, Jovic, Bryant, Smith and trade asset(s) for DFS, DSJ and Dinwiddie.

If Martin can be tossed in there instead of Jovic and turn the draft asset to just a second, I'd consider doing that since PF and PG would be covered now and possibly for the foreseeable future if they resign either PG.

Dinwiddie
Robinson
Butler
DFS
Bam

Bench
Jaquez Jr, Herro, Love, D.Smith Jr and Highsmith.

You have a great 2 way starting 5 (outside Robinson but he's gotten better positioning himself on defense) and a few potentially explosive scorers off the bench and some defense.
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Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Regular Season - Thread 3.0 

Post#1072 » by SA37 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:38 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Pat had no issue gutting the 2005 team that would’ve won the championship if Wade didn’t get injured in the ECF but now we can’t even get him to make 1-2 moves to improve the team when we’ve been on the cusp of winning a championship 3 out of the last 4 years, it’s pretty wild to think about.

The team flat out needs an infusion of talent. Have we won series where we weren’t the most talented team? Definitely. Have we ever won a championship where we didn’t have the most talented team? No.

Hard work, having a chip on your shoulder because you didn’t get drafted, and being a dog only gets you so far. We need talent. Get some talented hard working dogs like we have in Jimmy and Bam and let’s win this fuxking thing

Rozier is a dog with talent and would be an instant spark to this hapless team. Give Rozier the ball and get the phuck out the way and let everything else fall into the place. Rozier has shown he can be primetime scorer.


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Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Regular Season - Thread 3.0 

Post#1073 » by SA37 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:38 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:Trade 1 :

Lowry + 1 FRP + 1 SRP + Dru Smith
For
Rozier + Ish Smith

trade 2 :

Heat Out : Herro
Heat in : Jermi Grant

Nets out : Royce O'Neale + Spencer Dinwiddie + 2 second round picks
Nets in : Herro

Blazers out : Jermi Grant
Blazers in : Royce O'Neale + Spencer Dinwiddie + 2 SRP

Who says no?

I think we could keep Duncan and Jovic, Or combine them both for another vet, but noit sure we should.


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Post#1074 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:39 pm

batterybro42 wrote:I would take Deangelo Russle if we could swap him out with Lowry

He’s more of what this team needs than Murray in my opinion. Miami needs a facilitator and I actually like Dlo’s game I feel like playing on the same team as LeBron hides a lot of what he’s good at.

He can create and create offense for others when given the opportunity to do so


He’s averaging 26-2-6.5 over his last 6 shooting 55% from the field, 52% from 3 on 8 attempts and 86% from the free throw line.
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Post#1075 » by SA37 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:42 pm



Hell, Riley himself. His Knicks teams were just a group of thugs masquerading as basketball players. :lol:
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Post#1076 » by Eagle4 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:44 pm

AirP. wrote:I wonder if Miami and Brooklyn could come up near...

Lowry, Jovic, Bryant, Smith and trade asset(s) for DFS, DSJ and Dinwiddie.

If Martin can be tossed in there instead of Jovic and turn the draft asset to just a second, I'd consider doing that since PF and PG would be covered now and possibly for the foreseeable future if they resign either PG.

Dinwiddie
Robinson
Butler
DFS
Bam

Bench
Jaquez Jr, Herro, Love, D.Smith Jr and Highsmith.

You have a great 2 way starting 5 (outside Robinson but he's gotten better positioning himself on defense) and a few potentially explosive scorers off the bench and some defense.
Dinwiddie, Rozier, Murray, hell Tyus Jones... please just anyone but Cowry.

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Post#1077 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:48 pm

I wonder if we could take advantage of Danny Ainges love for Herro and their plethora of picks to get a good deal (if everything is on the table outside of Bam Jimmy and JJJ which isn’t likely).

Herro for Sexton, KOs expiring and a 1st.

I think Utah has the same issue as the Thunder where they have too many picks to even use them and add guys to their roster. If you all remember the 2022 draft the Thunder were trading back years in advance because they didn’t have the roster space.

Rozier/Martin
Sexton/Duncan
Jimmy/JJJ
KO/Highsmith
Bam/Love

Sexton as a starter has averaged 23-3-5 in only 28 minutes a night. Hes shooting 51% from the field, 42% from 3 on 5 attempts and 89% from the free throw line. Hes just as good or better than Herro but Herro is a little younger and Ainge loves him.
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Post#1078 » by EMC5466 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:56 pm

Looks like Lowry is getting bought out.
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Post#1079 » by Rapaz » Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:56 pm

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Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Regular Season - Thread 3.0 

Post#1080 » by SA37 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:59 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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Wiltside wrote:Bam has improved every year. He’s a top 20 guy in the league. Not concerned with him.


Top-20 is probably a bit generous. I'd say more likely between 30-40.


Name 30 better :lol:


Clearly (14): LeBron - Curry - Booker - Durant - Tatum - Doncic - Jokic - Embiid - A Davis - Morant - Giannis - Lillard - SGA - J Butler

Arguably (13): Sabonis - Fox - Mitchell - Kawhi - P George - T Young - Haliburton - Brunson - Lamelo Ball - Jaren Jackson Jr - KAT - A Edwards - Wemby - and Jovic when Spo plays him

I don't think I've forgotten anyone. So, yeah, depending on what kinds of players one likes, Adebayo could be left out of the top-20, although he's making it harder and harder to leave him out.

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