Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 2.0

[thelead]

Outside the Lakers and Magic, I'm struggling to find a viable trade partner for Murray anyway.

I guess maybe the Knicks and Nets could have some interest?

I don’t see the Nets giving up the cap space that they’re saving for Mitchell unless they’re giving up on someone like Cam Johnson to make it happen. The Knicks and the Lakers are the main competition IMO…. Then again, we would have to be active for it to be a competition and it’s very much possible that the FO is more than content with what they have…

[bigdogdylan5]

lol people freaking out we didn’t get Rozier? Terry Rozier? Man some of you need to chill. The front office should not make a trade unless it’s one of two things. Puts us squarely in position for 4th or 5th seed not just this year but for next. Or Asset accumulation for a trade to improve us in 1-2 years. So yea no crappy PG and no shooter with no creation. Those don’t move the needle. This team is not ready for contention. I think we all knew that before the season but now everyone is panicking like we’re tanking and our star is a free agent in a year.

We are not in the same boat as OKC or Minny. We did not already have a top 20 player then draft our young hot shots like OKC. Or have KAT then give up the crazy package for Gobert. Now is not the time for a push. What happens if Dallas falls on its face or Minny owners cheap out and break up the team causing Edwards to want out. Or most likely what if Mitchell leaves Cleveland then they decide to blow it up with Garland. You need to have all the ammo ready for the big fish.

[JBSouthpaw]

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Could they give up LaMelo?
Black & Jett, 24, better of 25 and 26 (top 5 protected) 1sts.
LaMelo/Fultz
Suggs/Harris
Franz/Joe
PB/JI
WCJ/Goga/MWags

STILL under the CAP next year. Just let Fultz,Harris and Okeke come off the books.
LaMelo would make life easier for PB and Franz. A Bit injury prone though.
Of course, on a winner it might be different.

Why are the Hornets trading their best player by a wide margin for scraps?

1. 3 1sts and 2 under 21 players isn't "scraps", it's 5 1sts basically.
2. IF they are committing to the rebuild, they don't want someone who can win games on their own
3. LaMelo may not want to wait, he's in his 4th year.
4. Sync up better with B. Miller's peak
5. without LaMelo's salary, next year they can become like OKC and take players w/ picks into that space.

[orlando_joe]

ESPN Bobby Marks some trade ideas for us:

"Trade we would like to see: Two separate trades. The Magic send Harris and the 2025 Denver first to Sacramento for Kevin Huerter. Orlando receives Jonas Valanciunas and Dyson Daniels from New Orleans for Carter and Okeke."

Upgrading Harris with Huerter is a no brainer. The second one gives me pause.

both trades seem ugly to me why give a first ? he wont move needle one less asset less cap space i just dont get it

[zaymon]

lol people freaking out we didn’t get Rozier? Terry Rozier? Man some of you need to chill. The front office should not make a trade unless it’s one of two things. Puts us squarely in position for 4th or 5th seed not just this year but for next. Or Asset accumulation for a trade to improve us in 1-2 years. So yea no crappy PG and no shooter with no creation. Those don’t move the needle. This team is not ready for contention. I think we all knew that before the season but now everyone is panicking like we’re tanking and our star is a free agent in a year.

We are not in the same boat as OKC or Minny. We did not already have a top 20 player then draft our young hot shots like OKC. Or have KAT then give up the crazy package for Gobert. Now is not the time for a push. What happens if Dallas falls on its face or Minny owners cheap out and break up the team causing Edwards to want out. Or most likely what if Mitchell leaves Cleveland then they decide to blow it up with Garland. You need to have all the ammo ready for the big fish.

You make too much sense

I know we are not contending but can we sell Banchero on sucking one more season ? We are making him look bad right now, there is a chance he wont make all star becouse all our guards have very little basketball skill.
In getting someone like Tyus Jones we will make Franz and Paolo more happy, we will have worse draft position but we will also gain good backup propably for the next few years.

[orlando_joe]

It feels like everyone else around us in the standings are all making moves.

NYK, Indy, and Miami all getting better. The Hawks seem likely to make a move and retool on the fly.. The Bulls look likely to do a tear-down.

The FO is really going to sit on their hands and fight for the 9/10 seed, aren’t they?

you mean teams full of vets who has there window closing type teams?
not one of real core even off rookie deal for 2 yrs

[VFX]

I don't think Rozier was the answer, but he could have been AN answer.

If Cleveland is going on a streak right now without Garland I question whether or not he's available.

Tyus Jones is another obvious target. Throwing Kispert into the mix with some kind of deal would be amazing if possible.

Im kinda out on DM. I think the asking price is too high and Atlanta can't really utilize anyone on the roster that is expendable.

DLO - no.

[ibraheim718]

I would go after Huerter for sure. He's underachieving over in Sacto.

Murray is the move to make if you want to accelerate things. Tyus Jones if you want to supplement play making. Herb Jones is really interesting also if they've soured on him.

Morris would be my primary target.. this team turns the ball over way too much and Morris is always at the top of the Ast/to ratio rankings. He's tested and can run PnR.

[ogmagicfan]

There's no excuse for the Magic to not atleast get Tyus Jones before the trade deadline

This idea that because we're overacheiving we should sit on our hands is ridiculous. I agreed with that sentiment last yr because of draft positioning, but in a weak draft, along with us being in the playoff hunt, things have changed. We got enough young developing players at the moment.

We need players who allow us to see more of the potential of our team.

Fultz & Den 1st should be more than enough for Tyus Jones.

[Skybox]

ESPN Bobby Marks some trade ideas for us:

"Trade we would like to see: Two separate trades. The Magic send Harris and the 2025 Denver first to Sacramento for Kevin Huerter. Orlando receives Jonas Valanciunas and Dyson Daniels from New Orleans for Carter and Okeke."

Upgrading Harris with Huerter is a no brainer. The second one gives me pause.

both trades seem ugly to me why give a first ? he wont move needle one less asset less cap space i just dont get it

Why on Earth would we trade for Dyson Daniels to add to our scrap pile of defense-first, offense never sort-of PG's .

C'mon Bobby Marks - you're better than that!

*first one's ok but not earth-shatteringly impactful, imo.

[basketballRob]

The Magic beat NY, and then they traded for OG. We beat Miami, and then they traded for Rozier.

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And we just got our butts handed to us by Cleveland and who do we trade for??? Two 2ND round picks lmao

I think it would be different if we were healthy and had even rest.

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[CarraT]

Why trade, when you can just do nothing and call it "evaluation"?

[basketballRob]

ESPN Bobby Marks some trade ideas for us:

"Trade we would like to see: Two separate trades. The Magic send Harris and the 2025 Denver first to Sacramento for Kevin Huerter. Orlando receives Jonas Valanciunas and Dyson Daniels from New Orleans for Carter and Okeke."

Upgrading Harris with Huerter is a no brainer. The second one gives me pause.

I like both of those trades. I'm a little hesitant about trading Harris and a first for Huerer. Harris is still a decent player. I like JV more than Carter, and Daniels is one of the best perimeter defenders in the league.

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[CarraT]

The Magic beat NY, and then they traded for OG. We beat Miami, and then they traded for Rozier.

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And we just got our butts handed to us by Cleveland and who do we trade for??? Two 2ND round picks lmao

I think it would be different if we were healthy and had even rest.

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Healthy? We are! Who were you missing? Gary Harris? Isaac didnt play his 14 minutes. But it was b2b. He will never play b2b again in his career. He is as healthy as he can, it wont get better.

[basketballRob]

And we just got our butts handed to us by Cleveland and who do we trade for??? Two 2ND round picks lmao

I think it would be different if we were healthy and had even rest.

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Healthy? We are! Who were you missing? Gary Harris? Isaac didnt play his 14 minutes. But it was b2b. He will never play b2b again in his career. He is as healthy as he can, it wont get better.

Isaac, Fultz, and Harris were out. Franz and Wendell weren't 100% and probably shouldn't have played in the b2b. Even if we were healthy and rested, it would've been tough. The Cavs are on a roll like we were when we won 9 straight.

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[Skybox]

Outside the Lakers and Magic, I'm struggling to find a viable trade partner for Murray anyway.

I guess maybe the Knicks and Nets could have some interest?

and NYK would put him in the same bad fit as ATL...playing largely off-ball next to one of the most ball-dominant guys in the league. We really should jump in and pay up.


Brogdon to NYK makes more sense to me. DJM to LAL is a good fit - just like DJM to ORL would be...if we sit with our thumbs up the usual orifice and they end up getting him for DLo and some obscenely protected picks 5 years down the road

Seriously

I don't like to assume too much or pile on with cliches about golf or phones off...but they really seem like they'd rather avoid what could be a mistake more than actually prioritizing making progress. I'm not in the damn room, but it can't be that hard to just make a deal once you've determined a target and you have your list of assets next to you. What's so wrong about feeling any sense of urgency to make progress...JV crap while the MIA's of world just step over us and pat our heads.

[bigdogdylan5]

lol people freaking out we didn’t get Rozier? Terry Rozier? Man some of you need to chill. The front office should not make a trade unless it’s one of two things. Puts us squarely in position for 4th or 5th seed not just this year but for next. Or Asset accumulation for a trade to improve us in 1-2 years. So yea no crappy PG and no shooter with no creation. Those don’t move the needle. This team is not ready for contention. I think we all knew that before the season but now everyone is panicking like we’re tanking and our star is a free agent in a year.

We are not in the same boat as OKC or Minny. We did not already have a top 20 player then draft our young hot shots like OKC. Or have KAT then give up the crazy package for Gobert. Now is not the time for a push. What happens if Dallas falls on its face or Minny owners cheap out and break up the team causing Edwards to want out. Or most likely what if Mitchell leaves Cleveland then they decide to blow it up with Garland. You need to have all the ammo ready for the big fish.

You make too much sense

I know we are not contending but can we sell Banchero on sucking one more season ? We are making him look bad right now, there is a chance he wont make all star becouse all our guards have very little basketball skill.
In getting someone like Tyus Jones we will make Franz and Paolo more happy, we will have worse draft position but we will also gain good backup propably for the next few years.

Ok couple points. I am not suggesting tanking. Magic need to win as many games as they can but unless you’re trading for a top 30 player I don’t think you push any chips in. Franz and Paolo need to lead us.

Why do we have to sell Banchero right now?? He ain’t leaving. He will take the max extension just like everyone else. I am sorry but there has been way too much absolving of Paolo and Franz. They are our corner stones so if they can’t take this team to the 7th or 8th seed that means they need to be better. No one wants to talk about Paolo’s horrendous advanced numbers. He is still way too inefficient and is now struggling to get to the hoop settling for mid range shots. Statistically he isn’t moving the needle on defense either. Franz has been hurt but he has had a drop in efficiency as well.

There is an argument that Banchero not playing with perfect spacing could help his development. You’re not always going to have perfect spacing you need to get better when it’s not there.

[pepe1991]

I think it would be different if we were healthy and had even rest.

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Healthy? We are! Who were you missing? Gary Harris? Isaac didnt play his 14 minutes. But it was b2b. He will never play b2b again in his career. He is as healthy as he can, it wont get better.

Isaac, Fultz, and Harris were out. Franz and Wendell weren't 100% and probably shouldn't have played in the b2b. Even if we were healthy and rested, it would've been tough. The Cavs are on a roll like we were when we won 9 straight.

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Cavs also missed allstar PG, starting PF and best bench player they have.

[DiplomaticMagic]

Really good trade for Miami. Hopefully we make a really good trade too.

[JBSouthpaw]

Healthy? We are! Who were you missing? Gary Harris? Isaac didnt play his 14 minutes. But it was b2b. He will never play b2b again in his career. He is as healthy as he can, it wont get better.

Isaac, Fultz, and Harris were out. Franz and Wendell weren't 100% and probably shouldn't have played in the b2b. Even if we were healthy and rested, it would've been tough. The Cavs are on a roll like we were when we won 9 straight.

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Cavs also missed allstar PG, starting PF and best bench player they have.

Don't think they would have shot 53% from 3 if those guys played.
Heck, the guy who shot 8-13 from 3 probably wouldn't have seen the floor.