The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2

[Dennis 37]

Don’t look now. He’s shooting 30% from 3

8/19 from 3 since returning from whatever two week program he was on.

Pretty sure there are trees at his destination. Either that or his mother-in-law is at the cottage too.

[ash_k]

Prime Hayward is a really big stretch. All rookies make mistakes, but there were a lot of extremely physically awkward plays last night that guys don't flub that badly when they have Hayward-level talent/athleticism. Hope he gets better and proves me wrong.

Because of his early struggles, we are forgetting about the player we drafted. Gordon stayed 2 years and Gradey could have used another year as he would probably be top 3 pick this year. I would have drafted Hawkins just because of the style of shooting, not because of the "final product" if you will.

Again someone that can be on the list with such greats as the nation best high-school player just ~18 months ago must be special(either way you look at it)...

2022 Gradey Dick
1996 Kobe
2002 LeBron
2011 Bradley Beal
2013 Andrew Wiggins
2014 Karl-Anthony Towns
2015 Ben Simmons
2016 Jayson Tatum
2017 Michael Porter Jr.
2021 Chet Holmgren

2022 is not 2024, though. A lot of those star were 1-and-done into the lotto. I don't think Gradey Dick had anywhere near the hype to be top-3 in the draft this year.

What it shows: As the best high school player in the nation, he picked Kansas then did 14+pts under the supervision of Legendary Bill Self as a freshman..not hard to image what would have happened, had he stayed another year like Hayward did (in such weaker 2024 draft).
He was still in his teens like 60 days ago. Prime Hayward was about 19-5-5(.400 3P%), that much to expect ? We are not talking about multiple All star appearances here (at this point). Hayward had ONE.

[Dennis 37]

Comparing Gradey to Duncan Robinson is about as lazy as it gets in terms of comparisons.

I could do worse.

[Dalek]

Honestly, the shooting hasn't lived up to expectation, but his on-ball creation is exciting. I kind of wonder if he could be a Tyler Herro type with enough development. My thing with Gradey is that I just don't see a SF in his future given his iffy wingspan and just smallish frame. He also plays more like a guard because you can see him read the floor more than just a shooter who is looking for his next shot.

He had a couple moments where he had to put the ball on the floor and create a shot, and he looked comfortable.

Watch on YouTube

He also has underrated hops. The strength isn't there, but he almost had a huge putback dunk at the end of the game. He also climbs pretty high for boards. He is probably more intriguing as a two for me which is great because once we dump Gary his path is pretty open as doubt we take another SG type.

[MiamiSPX]

That changes things if we can pencil him in as a definite, contributing rotation player next season. I am really liking what we've seen from hm the last few games. Night and day between now and earlier in the season.

[Lockdown504090]

It's hard to say because Dick potentially has a lot to offer as an ancillary creator, rebounder, cutter, finisher around the rim that if he develops and leverages these skills, he could be more of a Gordon Haywood type than a straight shooter. Haywood started off mostly as an on ball creator who leveraged that into outside shooting, so Dick would be coming at it from the opposite direction, leveraging his shot into these other skills. But if these other skills don't come along, then he's more of a Cam Johnson, Kevin Huerter type.

i think duncan robinson should be a good inspiration for him. robinson was one-dimensional as a movement shooter and defensive liability. last season he was essentially out of the heat's rotation but this season he added a dribble-drive game, is fully back in the rotation and the heat actually run on-ball actions with him.

it'll take time (it's robinson's 6th season) but if gradey works on his body and his skills he could be more than just a shooter, which was obviously the hope when they drafted him.

Ya, Robinson's been a really good all-around player this year. He's at 3 assists per game now and he's become a valuable on ball creator.

It's hard to make comparisons because often Gradey is compared to players who spent years in college and came into the league at an advanced age when their bodies and skills were a lot more developed. Duncan Robinson came into the NBA at 24 years old after spending years in college. Dick left college after 1 year and just turned 20. He's still basically a piece of clay that needs to be molded into a NBA player. You see glimpses of skills, but he hasn't put any one thing together yet.

You know what? That’s fair all those guys I think started as way better shooters were older than gradey.

[tdotrep2]

Comparing Gradey to Duncan Robinson is about as lazy as it gets in terms of comparisons.

duncan is doing more than just shooting these past 2 seasons, he's taking the ball off the pin downs and getting to the rim. In terms of activity on defense/rebounding I will agree that grady has more in him there.

Had he stayed one more year with the Jayhawks, he would probably be the number one pick this year.
Gradey is a different type of player, drop that Duncan Robinson comparison.

a shooter that gets a vast majority of his offense off the catch and I can't compare the two? And number 1 pick...

[LoveMyRaps]

Just needs to get stronger. Pack on some muscle.
Looking forward to that "Dick adds 10-15lbs of muscle" off-season thread.

[billy_hoyle]

Just needs to get stronger. Pack on some muscle.
Looking forward to that "Dick adds 10-15lbs of muscle" off-season thread.

It'll be more like this:

Dick adds 10-15lbs of girth.

Dick hasn't stopped growing. Look at this pick of him next to these large african guys, he's definitely added an inch this summer.

[brownbobcat]

Because of his early struggles, we are forgetting about the player we drafted. Gordon stayed 2 years and Gradey could have used another year as he would probably be top 3 pick this year. I would have drafted Hawkins just because of the style of shooting, not because of the "final product" if you will.

Again someone that can be on the list with such greats as the nation best high-school player just ~18 months ago must be special(either way you look at it)...

2022 Gradey Dick
1996 Kobe
2002 LeBron
2011 Bradley Beal
2013 Andrew Wiggins
2014 Karl-Anthony Towns
2015 Ben Simmons
2016 Jayson Tatum
2017 Michael Porter Jr.
2021 Chet Holmgren

2022 is not 2024, though. A lot of those star were 1-and-done into the lotto. I don't think Gradey Dick had anywhere near the hype to be top-3 in the draft this year.

What it shows: As the best high school player in the nation, he picked Kansas then did 14+pts under the supervision of Legendary Bill Self as a freshman..not hard to image what would have happened, had he stayed another year like Hayward did (in such weaker 2024 draft).
He was still in his teens like 60 days ago. Prime Hayward was about 19-5-5(.400 3P%), that much to expect ? We are not talking about multiple All star appearances here (at this point). Hayward had ONE.

Don't forget that Hayward had a major injury right after his AS year and was never the same again. If Dick ever becomes simply a starter-level player, I'd be pretty happy.

[SpezNc]

Honestly, the shooting hasn't lived up to expectation, but his on-ball creation is exciting. I kind of wonder if he could be a Tyler Herro type with enough development. My thing with Gradey is that I just don't see a SF in his future given his iffy wingspan and just smallish frame. He also plays more like a guard because you can see him read the floor more than just a shooter who is looking for his next shot.

He had a couple moments where he had to put the ball on the floor and create a shot, and he looked comfortable.

Watch on YouTube

He also has underrated hops. The strength isn't there, but he almost had a huge putback dunk at the end of the game. He also climbs pretty high for boards. He is probably more intriguing as a two for me which is great because once we dump Gary his path is pretty open as doubt we take another SG type.

Gradey is low key over 40% from 3 in past 10 games.

[mtcan]

Honestly, the shooting hasn't lived up to expectation, but his on-ball creation is exciting. I kind of wonder if he could be a Tyler Herro type with enough development. My thing with Gradey is that I just don't see a SF in his future given his iffy wingspan and just smallish frame. He also plays more like a guard because you can see him read the floor more than just a shooter who is looking for his next shot.

He had a couple moments where he had to put the ball on the floor and create a shot, and he looked comfortable.

Watch on YouTube

He also has underrated hops. The strength isn't there, but he almost had a huge putback dunk at the end of the game. He also climbs pretty high for boards. He is probably more intriguing as a two for me which is great because once we dump Gary his path is pretty open as doubt we take another SG type.

Gradey is low key over 40% from 3 in past 10 games.

If we are able to unload Gary and Bruce in the next couple of weeks...run a starting 5 of:

Quickley
Barrett
Dick
Barnes
Poeltl

[SpezNc]

Honestly, the shooting hasn't lived up to expectation, but his on-ball creation is exciting. I kind of wonder if he could be a Tyler Herro type with enough development. My thing with Gradey is that I just don't see a SF in his future given his iffy wingspan and just smallish frame. He also plays more like a guard because you can see him read the floor more than just a shooter who is looking for his next shot.

He had a couple moments where he had to put the ball on the floor and create a shot, and he looked comfortable.

Watch on YouTube

He also has underrated hops. The strength isn't there, but he almost had a huge putback dunk at the end of the game. He also climbs pretty high for boards. He is probably more intriguing as a two for me which is great because once we dump Gary his path is pretty open as doubt we take another SG type.

Gradey is low key over 40% from 3 in past 10 games.

If we are able to unload Gary and Bruce in the next couple of weeks...run a starting 5 of:

Quickley
Barrett
Dick
Barnes
Poeltl

It just make sense IMO

Gradey hold the key. But the FO is not disappointed if next year or starting five is Quick-RJ-Poeltl-Barnes and Gradey.

Four 4 players surrounded with a veteran center.

I hope we can see this lineup from time to time before end of season after TDL

[WuTang_CMB]

darko speaks to how he had to get his body right and improve his defense

Watch on YouTube

;t=347s

[NinjaBro]

Don’t look now. He’s shooting 30% from 3

Need to keep stroking to get that a little bit bigger

"If you want to lose brain cells go read Realgm" - Pensare Basketball

[BillNyeBballGuy]

Can't wait until the off season and Dick gets on a bulking workout regimen and we can all say Dick added 10lb of muscle...Dick is HUGE

I can see the posts already:
- Dick explodes!
- Dick adds inches to his girth
- Dick grew so big
- I want to touch Dick

Can't wait tbh

[tb40]

darko speaks to how he had to get his body right and improve his defense

Watch on YouTube

;t=347s

Darko is a terrific developmental coach. His in game adjustments and x's and o's may not be there yet, but I have no doubt that he will improve over time, but as a developmental guy, he's top tier.

[HumbleRen]

Shouldn’t be at the G League at all for the rest of the season if it comes at the expense of regular szn games.

He needs regular szn reps, not g league reps.

[ash_k]

duncan is doing more than just shooting these past 2 seasons, he's taking the ball off the pin downs and getting to the rim. In terms of activity on defense/rebounding I will agree that grady has more in him there.

Had he stayed one more year with the Jayhawks, he would probably be the number one pick this year.
Gradey is a different type of player, drop that Duncan Robinson comparison.

a shooter that gets a vast majority of his offense off the catch and I can't compare the two? And number 1 pick...

Do you realize he was voted high-school player of the year? He can do more than just catch&shoot.
Do you realize that had Ben Mathurin left after his first year, he would have been a second rounder?
Gradey was ranked as high as 8 in some mocks.
Had Gradey stayed one more year, right now, he would be averaging 20+pts 6+rbs on 40+3P% as an athletic 6'7 guard under Legendary Bill Self of Jayhawks..in a weak draft, he would be up there fighting for that number one pick

[Mark_83]

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