Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread

[fendilim]

I keep thinking about this, and it's total conspiracy theory nonsense, but I'm going to throw it out here and probably get flamed for it...

What if Weltman drafted Jett as an overture to get Juwan to be their next coach, and Mosley knows it, so he won't let him play on the squad, using defense as the excuse?

I'd hate for that to be the case as it makes Mosely look petulant, but it makes some kind of sense as to why he got sent to the Gleague and has been kept there, even with injuries...

My theory is to save money during recession. They want to save water with not needing to do laundry.

[sChOlaRlY_Magi]

I keep thinking about this, and it's total conspiracy theory nonsense, but I'm going to throw it out here and probably get flamed for it...

What if Weltman drafted Jett as an overture to get Juwan to be their next coach, and Mosley knows it, so he won't let him play on the squad, using defense as the excuse?

I'd hate for that to be the case as it makes Mosely look petulant, but it makes some kind of sense as to why he got sent to the Gleague and has been kept there, even with injuries...

My theory is to save money during recession. They want to save water with not needing to do laundry.

Lol
Touche

[eyriq]

We’re nearly 50 games in and AB is shooting 38% from deep

Bros pulling away from the Thompson twins like nobody's business. I'm going to start talking foolish about him if he keeps this up.

a) Black is shooting 33.9% from deep.
b) this is on 1.4 attempts per game. He is hitting these shots because he is TOTALLY unguarded when he shots the long ball.

Thelead mentioned the correct percentage from deep in his post. AB is shooting 38.1% from 3

[Knightro]

Bros pulling away from the Thompson twins like nobody's business. I'm going to start talking foolish about him if he keeps this up.

a) Black is shooting 33.9% from deep.
b) this is on 1.4 attempts per game. He is hitting these shots because he is TOTALLY unguarded when he shots the long ball.

Thelead mentioned the correct percentage from deep in his post. AB is shooting 38.1% from 3

Right, but think about that. Black’s attempts were so low coming into last night that he was able to raise his three-point percentage by 5% in one game.

[eyriq]

a) Black is shooting 33.9% from deep.
b) this is on 1.4 attempts per game. He is hitting these shots because he is TOTALLY unguarded when he shots the long ball.

Thelead mentioned the correct percentage from deep in his post. AB is shooting 38.1% from 3

Right, but think about that. Black’s attempts were so low coming into last night that he was able to raise his three-point percentage by 5% in one game.

I'm not saying it's conclusive evidence he can shoot, just pointing out facts

[JoshuaPotter]

a) Black is shooting 33.9% from deep.
b) this is on 1.4 attempts per game. He is hitting these shots because he is TOTALLY unguarded when he shots the long ball.

Thelead mentioned the correct percentage from deep in his post. AB is shooting 38.1% from 3

Right, but think about that. Black’s attempts were so low coming into last night that he was able to raise his three-point percentage by 5% in one game.

It is bad.

But it NEVER has been Fultz bad.

Black > Fultz

[JoshuaPotter]

Thelead mentioned the correct percentage from deep in his post. AB is shooting 38.1% from 3

Right, but think about that. Black’s attempts were so low coming into last night that he was able to raise his three-point percentage by 5% in one game.

I'm not saying it's conclusive evidence he can shoot, just pointing out facts

Keep it up, numbers don't lie @eyriq

[Bergmaniac]

Fultz hasn't taken a 3 since October and hasn't made one all season, it's impossible to be worse than him at 3 point shooting currently.

He is also somehow gotten much worse at drawing fouls this season despite drastically reducing the number of shots he takes from outside the paint. Since he has come back he has taken a total of 5 shots from outside the paint compared to 53 in the paint yet he's only taken 7 FTs in total in 9 games. His current free throw drawing rate is worse than that of shooting specialists like Caleb Houstan who only take 3s and never attack the paint.

[p0peye]

Fultz hasn't taken a 3 since October and hasn't made one all season, it's impossible to be worse than him at 3 point shooting currently.

He is also somehow gotten much worse at drawing fouls this season despite drastically reducing the number of shots he takes from outside the paint. Since he has come back he has taken a total of 5 shots from outside the paint compared to 53 in the paint yet he's only taken 7 FTs in total in 9 games. His current free throw drawing rate is worse than that of shooting specialists like Caleb Houstan who only take 3s and never attack the paint.

Because he is very much avoiding foul line as it is not close to the rim.

[ChosenSavior]

Fultz hasn't taken a 3 since October and hasn't made one all season, it's impossible to be worse than him at 3 point shooting currently.

He is also somehow gotten much worse at drawing fouls this season despite drastically reducing the number of shots he takes from outside the paint. Since he has come back he has taken a total of 5 shots from outside the paint compared to 53 in the paint yet he's only taken 7 FTs in total in 9 games. His current free throw drawing rate is worse than that of shooting specialists like Caleb Houstan who only take 3s and never attack the paint.

Because he is very much avoiding foul line as it is not close to the rim.

He's our 6'4 Nic Claxton basically lol

[Audi]

Fultz hasn't taken a 3 since October and hasn't made one all season, it's impossible to be worse than him at 3 point shooting currently.

He is also somehow gotten much worse at drawing fouls this season despite drastically reducing the number of shots he takes from outside the paint. Since he has come back he has taken a total of 5 shots from outside the paint compared to 53 in the paint yet he's only taken 7 FTs in total in 9 games. His current free throw drawing rate is worse than that of shooting specialists like Caleb Houstan who only take 3s and never attack the paint.

Because he is very much avoiding foul line as it is not close to the rim.

He's likely avoiding the FT line because of the TOS, but in general he's never been good at drawing shooting fouls. While he's not actively seeking out contact like Paolo, when I do see him draw contact occasionally...they are just almost always no calls. I don't know what it is - refs, opposing teams, etc... his craftiness in the paint might actually work against him when it comes down to it.

[basketballRob]

We’re nearly 50 games in and AB is shooting 38% from deep

Bros pulling away from the Thompson twins like nobody's business. I'm going to start talking foolish about him if he keeps this up.

a) Black is shooting 33.9% from deep.
b) this is on 1.4 attempts per game. He is hitting these shots because he is TOTALLY unguarded when he shots the long ball.

He's shooting 38% now.

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[SOUL]

Bros pulling away from the Thompson twins like nobody's business. I'm going to start talking foolish about him if he keeps this up.

a) Black is shooting 33.9% from deep.
b) this is on 1.4 attempts per game. He is hitting these shots because he is TOTALLY unguarded when he shots the long ball.

He's shooting 38% now.

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If 4 attempts can drop him or bring him up that high, it's still a bit inconsequential in terms of judging him on numbers alone as a credible floor spacer just yet.

Nice to see him hit open threes though, we don't have many players who hit open shots.

[thelead]

a) Black is shooting 33.9% from deep.
b) this is on 1.4 attempts per game. He is hitting these shots because he is TOTALLY unguarded when he shots the long ball.

He's shooting 38% now.

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If 4 attempts can drop him or bring him up that high, it's still a bit inconsequential in terms of judging him on numbers alone as a credible floor spacer just yet.

Nice to see him hit open threes though, we don't have many players who hit open shots.

One step at a time. He's not passing up the open looks and he's making them. 38% from 3 for a guy that 'couldn't shoot' is way better than him shooting 18% (Amen) or 15% (Ausar) who had similar knocks.

[SOUL]

One step at a time. He's not passing up the open looks and he's making them. 38% from 3 for a guy that 'couldn't shoot' is way better than him shooting 18% (Amen) or 15% (Ausar) who had similar knocks.

Yep. The fact that the ability is there is what gives him a really high ceiling as an offensive player. Just saying that he could be anywhere between a 32-39% three point shooter in the span of a week depending on how many he makes or misses just because the attempts aren't really there, so there's no consistency as a floor spacer yet, but the fact he hits them is a step.

I'm more encouraged when he is able to create off of the dribble and get by his man for a pull up or going hard around the rim. He did that a few times the last few games. His handle still needs to be tighter to do it consistently, but he can get there.

[thelead]

One step at a time. He's not passing up the open looks and he's making them. 38% from 3 for a guy that 'couldn't shoot' is way better than him shooting 18% (Amen) or 15% (Ausar) who had similar knocks.

Yep. The fact that the ability is there is what gives him a really high ceiling as an offensive player. Just saying that he could be anywhere between a 32-39% three point shooter in the span of a week depending on how many he makes or misses just because the attempts aren't really there, so there's no consistency as a floor spacer yet, but the fact he hits them is a step.

I'm more encouraged when he is able to create off of the dribble and get by his man for a pull up or going hard around the rim. He did that a few times the last few games. His handle still needs to be tighter to do it consistently, but he can get there.

Yeah, I'm more impressed with the off the dribble jumpers too. I would imagine that going against Suggs in practices has to help.

[BadMofoPimp]

Fultz hasn't taken a 3 since October and hasn't made one all season, it's impossible to be worse than him at 3 point shooting currently.

He is also somehow gotten much worse at drawing fouls this season despite drastically reducing the number of shots he takes from outside the paint. Since he has come back he has taken a total of 5 shots from outside the paint compared to 53 in the paint yet he's only taken 7 FTs in total in 9 games. His current free throw drawing rate is worse than that of shooting specialists like Caleb Houstan who only take 3s and never attack the paint.

Because he is very much avoiding foul line as it is not close to the rim.

I think there may be precautions mentally coming out of injury. He will be fine long term.

[Knightro]

I am very happy Black is taking threes when he's open. That's a good step in the right direction for his development as an offensive player.

But I'm not ready to say, nor do I think it's appropriate to say, that he's a good shooter just because his 3PT% is 38% when you consider A. he's super low volume, B. he basically only attempts wide open catch and shoots and nothing else and C. he isn't a good FT shooter still.

Encouraging signs nonetheless, but let's not go crazy either yet.

[eyriq]

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