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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1261 » by BliscoSantos » Sat Feb 3, 2024 11:25 pm

Mavs playing it safe this trade deadline...I get it since the previous gambles have set them back...buy low candidates like Wiggins and WCJ have picked up their play and are unlikely to be moved...no sense overpaying for others that are available, there's nobody available that could really help the team(without them overpaying)...maybe go for a small trade,some size like Drummond,KJ Martin,Mcdaniels
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Post#1262 » by joesha1698 » Sat Feb 3, 2024 11:57 pm

BliscoSantos wrote:Mavs playing it safe this trade deadline...I get it since the previous gambles have set them back...buy low candidates like Wiggins and WCJ have picked up their play and are unlikely to be moved...no sense overpaying for others that are available, there's nobody available that could really help the team(without them overpaying)...maybe go for a small trade,some size like Drummond,KJ Martin,Mcdaniels



Exactly, it was a 3 year plan to begin (with the addition of Kyrie) and they have a lot more trading flexibility with the two expiring contracts coming up with THJ and R.Holmes after this season. Plus, it's better to do most of your changes on your roster in the off-season. If there is a good player available for Maxi + Jaden Hardy + (2nd round pick) I think that's something you look at. If this nets you another quality another starter at PF or SF - you pull the trigger, if not, I think they will probably stand pat as well.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1263 » by BliscoSantos » Sun Feb 4, 2024 12:26 am

joesha1698 wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:Mavs playing it safe this trade deadline...I get it since the previous gambles have set them back...buy low candidates like Wiggins and WCJ have picked up their play and are unlikely to be moved...no sense overpaying for others that are available, there's nobody available that could really help the team(without them overpaying)...maybe go for a small trade,some size like Drummond,KJ Martin,Mcdaniels



Exactly, it was a 3 year plan to begin (with the addition of Kyrie) and they have a lot more trading flexibility with the two expiring contracts coming up with THJ and R.Holmes after this season. Plus, it's better to do most of your changes on your roster in the off-season. If there is a good player available for Maxi + Jaden Hardy + (2nd round pick) I think that's something you look at. If this nets you another quality another starter at PF or SF - you pull the trigger, if not, I think they will probably stand pat as well.


Agree and its the smart thing to do.... everybody knows Mavs are desperate now,they need changes and there isn't a Player available that would change their chances...make small moves now and in the Summer you have to go all in, make roster changes
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1264 » by daoneandonly » Sun Feb 4, 2024 12:29 am

The problem is the window and patience. When your 2nd best player is constantly out and won't play because it hurts when he sucks his thumb, you're in a world of trouble
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1265 » by BliscoSantos » Sun Feb 4, 2024 12:55 am

daoneandonly wrote:The problem is the window and patience. When your 2nd best player is constantly out and won't play because it hurts when he sucks his thumb, you're in a world of trouble


Well dislocated finger usually heals 3-6 weeks...when I dislocated my I had a plaster cast on for two weeks..it also depends if there's damage on ligaments...it can take quite some time...this injury and the one he suffered from colision with Powell are bad luck...on the bright side at least he can rest now,recover and hopefully will be able to play and help the team out more...the problem is that Exum,who was suppose to take off the load on Luka and Kyrie,has also missed a lot of games...when he played in Europe he was healthy for the first time in his career,even played around 80 games for Partizan last season,and now that he's back in the NBA it seems like the injuries are starting to pile up again
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1266 » by joesha1698 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 1:15 am

daoneandonly wrote:The problem is the window and patience. When your 2nd best player is constantly out and won't play because it hurts when he sucks his thumb, you're in a world of trouble



The frustration (from fans) is way deeper than Kyrie being out. We're building a championship team and the FO has to strategically put this thing together. Realistically, if we can do that by the 24-25 season, that's a ring after 2 and half seasons of getting Kyrie. That's reasonable because we still needed time to build out the roster. It might take to the 25-26 season but best case scenario we win the chip by next year and Kyrie opts in for the repeat season.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1267 » by 41Dirk41 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 9:57 am

Trade Kidd and Cuban for another mascotte, it cannot be more harmful to the team.
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Post#1268 » by Archx » Sun Feb 4, 2024 11:12 am

41Dirk41 wrote:Trade Kidd and Cuban for another mascotte, it cannot be more harmful to the team.


Please add Grant to that.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1269 » by BliscoSantos » Sun Feb 4, 2024 9:54 pm

I doubt Mavs get PJ since it's being reported that Hornets would want Josh Green and we know Mavs are reluctant to involve him

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Post#1270 » by Archx » Sun Feb 4, 2024 10:12 pm

If anyone still wonders how pathetic this team is, via roster construction or injuries. Doesn't really matter at this point anymore.

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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1271 » by BliscoSantos » Sun Feb 4, 2024 11:09 pm

This is a trade that I actually like...yes Mavs lose THJ,Green but you need to do something... it's clear this ,the way the team is constructed now, doesn't work

https://www.si.com/nba/mavericks/trade-rumors/dallas-mavs-pursuing-pj-washington-kyle-kuzma-3-way-trade-charlotte-hornets-washington-wizards

Mavs : Kuzma, PJ Washington, Gafford

WSH: THJ, Holmes, 2027 first round Dallas

CHA: Green, Grant Williams

It's actually a good deal for everybody...maybe WSH would like more...Dallas and CHA should do this...I actually like this trade...and in the offseason you have two more picks to improve the squad
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Post#1272 » by Maverick41 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 11:13 pm

BliscoSantos wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:The problem is the window and patience. When your 2nd best player is constantly out and won't play because it hurts when he sucks his thumb, you're in a world of trouble


Well dislocated finger usually heals 3-6 weeks...when I dislocated my I had a plaster cast on for two weeks..it also depends if there's damage on ligaments...it can take quite some time...this injury and the one he suffered from colision with Powell are bad luck...on the bright side at least he can rest now,recover and hopefully will be able to play and help the team out more.

Doesn't Kyrie just have a sprained thumb? I'm currently recovering from a broken finger surgery myself and I've played sooner then he has with that sprain. I'm also much older then Kyrie and play for free. It's infuriating to see guys like Luka dragging himself out there doing everything he can with 1 leg while Kyrie is too scared to play with a sprained thumb.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1273 » by daoneandonly » Mon Feb 5, 2024 2:26 am

You know what, I'm sorry, it needs to be said. Stop going after Australian players. They're either soft who are always hurt and won't play: Kyrie, Exum, Simmons, Bogut; or they just suck: Green, Thybulle
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1274 » by ejs78 » Mon Feb 5, 2024 2:55 am

BliscoSantos wrote:This is a trade that I actually like...yes Mavs lose THJ,Green but you need to do something... it's clear this ,the way the team is constructed now, doesn't work

https://www.si.com/nba/mavericks/trade-rumors/dallas-mavs-pursuing-pj-washington-kyle-kuzma-3-way-trade-charlotte-hornets-washington-wizards

Mavs : Kuzma, PJ Washington, Gafford

WSH: THJ, Holmes, 2027 first round Dallas

CHA: Green, Grant Williams

It's actually a good deal for everybody...maybe WSH would like more...Dallas and CHA should do this...I actually like this trade...and in the offseason you have two more picks to improve the squad
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1275 » by Teffer10 » Mon Feb 5, 2024 9:13 am

BliscoSantos wrote:This is a trade that I actually like...yes Mavs lose THJ,Green but you need to do something... it's clear this ,the way the team is constructed now, doesn't work

https://www.si.com/nba/mavericks/trade-rumors/dallas-mavs-pursuing-pj-washington-kyle-kuzma-3-way-trade-charlotte-hornets-washington-wizards

Mavs : Kuzma, PJ Washington, Gafford

WSH: THJ, Holmes, 2027 first round Dallas

CHA: Green, Grant Williams

It's actually a good deal for everybody...maybe WSH would like more...Dallas and CHA should do this...I actually like this trade...and in the offseason you have two more picks to improve the squad

No way Washington makes that trade.
They wouldnt do it for Kuzma alone, let alone adding Gafford.
Mavs would have to add Hardy and Prosper and probably some 2nd rounders.

If Mavs added Prosper and two 2nd rounders, Washington might start listening.

I honestly dont see the need for Kuzma AND PJ though.

Mavs really should consider Williams/Green/2nd for PJ/Richards imo.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1276 » by Teffer10 » Mon Feb 5, 2024 9:24 am

If Mavs are trading for Kuzma they should acquire Gafford too.

If Mavs are trading for PJ they should acquire Richard too.

Both scenarios would solve our two biggest issues.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1277 » by daoneandonly » Mon Feb 5, 2024 12:00 pm

Teffer10 wrote:If Mavs are trading for Kuzma they should acquire Gafford too.

If Mavs are trading for PJ they should acquire Richard too.

Both scenarios would solve our two biggest issues.


Massive holes and issue no doubt, but I think you and I were right all along. The Kyrie trade was a massive mistake, his availability is our biggest issue
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1278 » by BliscoSantos » Mon Feb 5, 2024 3:29 pm

The fact that Mavs have been active in the trade market (Wiggins,Kuzma, PJ Washington,...) and yet have failled to make a trade probably means that they don't have the assets other teams desire or they're overvalueing their own...these team constructed as it is ain't going nowhere...Luka,Kyrie and Lively should be the only untouchable ones in a trade, others can be included for upgrades(needs)... it's time to tear it down, we've seen how this team plays without Luka and without Kyrie Luka has to average over 40 Just to keep it a close game...the team can beat anybody Just when they get hot from the three, there's not much else most Players can do
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1279 » by daoneandonly » Mon Feb 5, 2024 3:36 pm

BliscoSantos wrote:The fact that Mavs have been active in the trade market (Wiggins,Kuzma, PJ Washington,...) and yet have failled to make a trade probably means that they don't have the assets other teams desire or they're overvalueing their own...these team constructed as it is ain't going nowhere...Luka,Kyrie and Lively should be the only untouchable ones in a trade, others can be included for upgrades(needs)... it's time to tear it down, we've seen how this team plays without Luka and without Kyrie Luka has to average over 40 Just to keep it a close game...the team can beat anybody Just when they get hot from the three, there's not much else most Players can do


I dont think Kyrie should be untouchable. The guy is just way too unreliable
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1280 » by BliscoSantos » Mon Feb 5, 2024 3:46 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:The fact that Mavs have been active in the trade market (Wiggins,Kuzma, PJ Washington,...) and yet have failled to make a trade probably means that they don't have the assets other teams desire or they're overvalueing their own...these team constructed as it is ain't going nowhere...Luka,Kyrie and Lively should be the only untouchable ones in a trade, others can be included for upgrades(needs)... it's time to tear it down, we've seen how this team plays without Luka and without Kyrie Luka has to average over 40 Just to keep it a close game...the team can beat anybody Just when they get hot from the three, there's not much else most Players can do


I dont think Kyrie should be untouchable. The guy is just way too unreliable


Kyrie should be untouchable cause you won't get anything for him now... there's no point in selling him low,like KP, since when he's played he's been great...his biggest problem are the nagging injuries,but thats what happens with so many milage...even with Kyrie this team isn't good,too many holes in the roster...besides,you need him cause Luka is carrying way too much load right now...and all the people crying about Dinwiddie...he was good in their WCF run,when they had Luka +Brunson...when he was suppose to take over from Brunson he couldnt...he was a backup,not a starter

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