Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas -Trade Deadline Thursday 2 pm CT

[raferfenix]

Bobby is a gun and potential star for a bad tanking team that needs wrestling fake toughness to entertain the fans.

Holding out hope if we trade Bobby that we get more than what’d otherwise be expected.

His cheap contract also would be enticing to cap conscious teams (like Atlanta) too.

[raferfenix]

Anyone thinking Eric Nehm has any inside info on anything has better think twice.

Not saying you’re wrong but why’s that?

Very few media members are around the team as much as he is.

[BigO]

Is it just me or did Crowder start to look a little more like Crowder last night? It seems like he’s a little redundant with Grant Williams if he can get back in shape. But having two Crowders would be a pain in the ass, just not sure getting less athletic is what we want to do.

I think Portis and Williams are similar athletically but Portis is longer and taller. Trading the only back up big for a power wing defender is sketchy when that player is only a spot up shooter. Grant would still be an asset and would help but I think he is slightly below Portis. There would need to be compensation in Dallas end to get Portis.

Horst wouldn't be dumb enough to trade Portis for Williams.

Portis is getting many more rebounds since Griffin left. Ten last night, 12 against Portland, all in limited minutes. For those with limited knowledge of defense, rebounding is a key part of defense.

Williams is a horrible rebounder and a standstill shooter who can't finish at the basket. He is not a switchable defender and can't guard guards, which is what the Bucks need. The idea of swapping one for the other confirms the idea that there should be a G league for some posters.

[AussieBuck]

If we're sending Bobby to Dallas get back either Exum and hope he stays healthy or Green for the more robust but less sexy guard defender option.

Got to fix the guard issue before shopping for a defending imo.

[TroyD92]

Grant Williams blows. You guys have Celtics green bleeding into your brains

[BigO]

Anyone thinking Eric Nehm has any inside info on anything has better think twice.

Not saying you’re wrong but why’s that?

Very few media members are around the team as much as he is.

He has been around for years. I used to read his articles, but except for a few times where he breaks down film, his usual story used to be a rehash of Bud or Griffin post game interviews.

Never have I seen anything close to an insight where he gave info that turned out valuable.

He is a decent writer, but he lacks the key component of journalism, which is to ask tough questions; the questions fans are asking.

How about an obvious question to Griffin like; " you said you are a defensive minded coach but the team is near the bottom of the league. Why is that?"

Nehm is too fearful to ask those questions. Instead game after game it's "Giannis had 40 points and 12 rebounds. What did you see tonight from him?"

Also, he talks to Horst once or twice a year and all the questions are pure puffery, like he's afraid of being cut off. You'd think that in return for abdicating your role as a journalist, you'd get some inside tidbits, but not a one.

[yb90]

Not even the biggest Grant Williams fan but I can't imagine how people can keep watching Bobby be basically useless against any top contender and not be fine with swapping him for any useful PF that can move his feet on defense. Bobby for Williams, Marjon and the Portland 2nd for Quentin Grimes, and let's roll.

Dame
Beasley/Grimes
Middleton/Pat
Giannis/Williams/Crowder
Brook

There's your 8-9 man playoff rotation. Sprinkle in 5-10 minutes of Payne only if necessary.

Why trade for Grant when we have Jae? Very similar players but Jae costs $2mil. Why pay $40 million for a guy that can shoot the 3 (shooting numbers are down the last two seasons) and flop on D and that's it? We need a POA guard and then our next biggest need is a guy that can replace Middleton if he goes down, or another rim protector/back up center. Grant Williams archetype can be had for league minimum every offseason.

One reason is it's not just about this year and Williams is still a younger player than Crowder and is not on the decline in Giannis' prime. Crowder and Williams can play together with Williams being able to guard the worst of the 3/4. Also, you have to look towards next year and the years to come.

[Prez]

I'd do a Grant for Bobby swap if Dallas throws in extra stuff that we can re-route in a Caruso type trade. They've both sucked ass this year but Bobby has the raw box score numbers to maintain some trade value, so squeezing extra assets outta Dallas might be the path to getting enough stuff to make that follow up move for a playoff caliber starting SG.

[BigO]

Not even the biggest Grant Williams fan but I can't imagine how people can keep watching Bobby be basically useless against any top contender and not be fine with swapping him for any useful PF that can move his feet on defense. Bobby for Williams, Marjon and the Portland 2nd for Quentin Grimes, and let's roll.

Dame
Beasley/Grimes
Middleton/Pat
Giannis/Williams/Crowder
Brook

There's your 8-9 man playoff rotation. Sprinkle in 5-10 minutes of Payne only if necessary.

Why trade for Grant when we have Jae? Very similar players but Jae costs $2mil. Why pay $40 million for a guy that can shoot the 3 (shooting numbers are down the last two seasons) and flop on D and that's it? We need a POA guard and then our next biggest need is a guy that can replace Middleton if he goes down, or another rim protector/back up center. Grant Williams archetype can be had for league minimum every offseason.

One reason is it's not just about this year and Williams is still a younger player than Crowder and is not on the decline in Giannis' prime. Crowder and Williams can play together with Williams being able to guard the worst of the 3/4. Also, you have to look towards next year and the years to come.

The Bucks are not looking any further than this season.

[WiscoKing13]

I'd do a Grant for Bobby swap if Dallas throws in extra stuff that we can re-route in a Caruso type trade. They've both sucked ass this year but Bobby has the raw box score numbers to maintain some trade value, so squeezing extra assets outta Dallas might be the path to getting enough stuff to make that follow up move for a playoff caliber starting SG.

I would assume at that point Dallas just takes Caruso

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[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Bobby is a gun and potential star for a bad tanking team that needs wrestling fake toughness to entertain the fans.

Grant is perfect as a role player for a team that needs an actual hardcore dick who cares about everything except numbers.

im not even getting involved with trade ideas here or suggesting we make a trade between them or anything like that.

was just describing both players the way i see it

[MiltownHawkeye]

I hadn't really watched Konchar play, just became enamored with his metrics. Thanks to the person who posted "the high-low" the other day, i was able to verify that this guy is European Derrick White on defense.

Quick hands, Instincts, no wasted movements, doesn't seem to have fast feet or athleticism until he's in the air all of a sudden, destroying someone. He just signed an extension and is cost controlled at about 6M per for three years, starting next season.

I dont know if he can be a starter, but he would be very useful off the bench.

https://thehighlow.io/video/player/nba/2023-24/1629723/stl,blk?ordsq=asc&shotFilters=

John Konchar is from West Chicago

[Badgerlander]

Grayson Allen last year $8.5mil 10.4pts 2.3ast 3.3reb 44.0%/39.9%/90.5% 2.0 3PM on 5.1 3PA 61.2ts%

Grant Williams $12.4mil 8.1pts 1.8ast 3.5reb 41.0%/37.3%/72.9% 1.7 3PM on 4.5 3PA 55.3ts%

Jae Crowder $2mil 6.9pts 1.3ast 3.2reb 46.3%/40.9%/56.3% 1.5 3PM on 3.7 3PA 60.8ts%

[ShootingtheJ]

I'd do a Grant for Bobby swap if Dallas throws in extra stuff that we can re-route in a Caruso type trade. They've both sucked ass this year but Bobby has the raw box score numbers to maintain some trade value, so squeezing extra assets outta Dallas might be the path to getting enough stuff to make that follow up move for a playoff caliber starting SG.

I would assume at that point Dallas just takes Caruso

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To add to the Luka, Kyrie, Josh Green, Dante Exum back court?

[ShootingtheJ]

I'd do a Grant for Bobby swap if Dallas throws in extra stuff that we can re-route in a Caruso type trade. They've both sucked ass this year but Bobby has the raw box score numbers to maintain some trade value, so squeezing extra assets outta Dallas might be the path to getting enough stuff to make that follow up move for a playoff caliber starting SG.

Agree

Mavs get: Portis, Bucks 2027 2nd
Bulls get: Grant Williams, Chris Livingston, Dallas 2026 1st, Portland 2024 2nd
Bucks get: Caruso, Drummond

Drummond is included to keep the Bulls under the tax.

[raferfenix]

Zach LaVine out for the year. Getting surgery.

Bulls LOL.

Persuade them they need Bobby back to put up 18 and 10.

Mirotic had it coming.

Just send us Caruso in return.

[msiris]

Bobby for William sounds so underwhelming

Just an insane idea.

You know I am not a big Bobby fan, he has to have more value than this. D at this position is not the biggest problem. POA is and even some of those ideas are underwhelming.

[WiscoKing13]

Zach LaVine out for the year. Getting surgery.

Bulls LOL.

Persuade them they need Bobby back to put up 18 and 10.

Mirotic had it coming.

Just send us Caruso in return.

Fischer was on Duncd on and said the Bulls view Curoso as their best player and don't want to move him.

I doubt his price goes down, which isn't a bad thing. Keeps him off of Boston and Philly.

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[raferfenix]

Mavs 2027 first and contract filler for Bobby.

Requirement being that we use that pick to close some other deal.

[MissKhriddleton]

Zach LaVine out for the year. Getting surgery.

Bulls LOL.

Persuade them they need Bobby back to put up 18 and 10.

Mirotic had it coming.

Just send us Caruso in return.

Fischer was on Duncd on and said the Bulls view Curoso as their best player and don't want to move him.

I doubt his price goes down, which isn't a bad thing. Keeps him off of Boston and Philly.

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If your best player is a 30 year old 3 and D specialist you should probably start over.