Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 2.0

[eyriq]

Never heard a coach or any player say anything bad about him. Maybe, you just don't like the idea of having a potential All-Star caliber PG on this team. Maybe, accepting mediocre player like Tyus or simons is more the Magic style instead of going for gold.

I'm fine with an all-star caliber PG. Murray just happens to have documented beef with Paolo, documented bullying behavior (including against Paolo), a failed stint with the Hawks on his resume, along with very questionable all-star credentials.

I for one do not blame Murray for anything on the Hawks. If the organization was run better, they would perform better.

I would still give up to 2 1sts and a 1st round swap plus Harris or Fultz for him.

Player issues would be resolved if on the same team. I am thinking best team to compete for championship and not accepting mediocre players at the PG spot.

That's fair. I'll be super hyped if we bring him in

[orlando_joe]

I feel like I got burned

Never heard a coach or any player say anything bad about him. Maybe, you just don't like the idea of having a potential All-Star caliber PG on this team. Maybe, accepting mediocre player like Tyus or simons is more the Magic style instead of going for gold.

I'm fine with an all-star caliber PG. Murray just happens to have documented beef with Paolo, documented bullying behavior (including against Paolo), a failed stint with the Hawks on his resume, along with very questionable all-star credentials.

and not that important but to magic it is ..his tweets are just bad impression and seems like bad for young players

[CocoaFan]

I'm fine with an all-star caliber PG. Murray just happens to have documented beef with Paolo, documented bullying behavior (including against Paolo), a failed stint with the Hawks on his resume, along with very questionable all-star credentials.

I for one do not blame Murray for anything on the Hawks. If the organization was run better, they would perform better.

I would still give up to 2 1sts and a 1st round swap plus Harris or Fultz for him.

Player issues would be resolved if on the same team. I am thinking best team to compete for championship and not accepting mediocre players at the PG spot.

That's fair. I'll be super hyped if we bring him in

If Magic want Murray they definitely have the assets to put together a better package than anything in the media so far. If they want him they need to get aggressive and go get him.

[shadrock]

I'm fine with an all-star caliber PG. Murray just happens to have documented beef with Paolo, documented bullying behavior (including against Paolo), a failed stint with the Hawks on his resume, along with very questionable all-star credentials.

I for one do not blame Murray for anything on the Hawks. If the organization was run better, they would perform better.

I would still give up to 2 1sts and a 1st round swap plus Harris or Fultz for him.

Player issues would be resolved if on the same team. I am thinking best team to compete for championship and not accepting mediocre players at the PG spot.

That's fair. I'll be super hyped if we bring him in

Is the documented beef with Paolo legit though? My understanding is they were close back to the Seattle days, then there was that on court incident in Paolos rookie season which to me was just two competitive guys going hard at it and ive got no issue with. My feeling was always that they were close friends first and foremost.

[Skybox]

More modest, less daring, and far more likely...

ORL sends: Fultz, Harris, srps
CHA sends: Kyle Lowry

Gross.

There's like 3 players in the NBA that would make me consider changing teams and Lowry is one of them. He's such an absolute piece of **** that I could never find myself cheering for him and would actively hope for his failure

Just to be clear…I don’t like the trade at all or Lowry…I was just pointing out likely deal

Even our chicken-little FO might do this one

[BadMofoPimp]

Gross.

There's like 3 players in the NBA that would make me consider changing teams and Lowry is one of them. He's such an absolute piece of **** that I could never find myself cheering for him and would actively hope for his failure

Just to be clear…I don’t like the trade at all or Lowry…I was just pointing out likely deal

Even our chicken-little FO might do this one

I can only think of Fultz and Ingles for him, but I also think that Fultz is better than Lowry right now. Yet, Lowry does come alive in the Playoffs. If they trade for him, probably rest him most of the time for the playoffs.

[KillMonger]

Need to find a way and get colin sexton here

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[89Magicfan]

Need to find a way and get colin sexton here

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Thought about this the other day.

[BCS]

Need to find a way and get colin sexton here

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Thought about this the other day.

Those are my top 2 guards attainable to go for. DJM and Sexton, I believe them to be a great fit for us.

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[eyriq]

Magic not interested in Murray

[KillMonger]

Need to find a way and get colin sexton here

Sent from the phone in my hands

Thought about this the other day.

Those are my top 2 guards attainable to go for. DJM and Sexton, I believe them to be a great fit for us.

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Sexton is an absolute dog man.....

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[Knightro]

Magic not interested in Murray

Magic not interested in Anyone*

Fixed.

[AaronB]

Magic not interested in Murray

Magic not interested in Anyone*

Fixed.

Magic not interested in grossly overpaying for non-difference-maker talent*

Fixed

Magic easily beats LA's offer without adding Black

Utah Danny probably offered a Sexton-Murray swap.

[Knightro]

Magic not interested in grossly overpaying for non-difference-maker talent*

Fixed

Magic easily beats LA's offer without adding Black

Utah Danny probably offered a Sexton-Murray swap.

I strongly suspect the Magic are content with their roster and are more than happy to let it ride, hopefully into the playoffs.

Of course that opens up a whole different can of worms when they head into the offseason with almost $40M coming off the books in free agents (Fultz, Harris, Okeke, Bitadze) and another nearly $40M in team options/non-guaranteed deals (Isaac, Ingles, Moritz, Houstan), but I don't get the sense that Weltman considers that to be as big of a problem as certain fans - myself included - do.

[AaronB]

Magic not interested in grossly overpaying for non-difference-maker talent*

Fixed

Magic easily beats LA's offer without adding Black

Utah Danny probably offered a Sexton-Murray swap.

I strongly suspect the Magic are content with their roster and are more than happy to let it ride, hopefully into the playoffs.

Of course that opens up a whole different can of worms when they head into the offseason with almost $40M coming off the books in free agents (Fultz, Harris, Okeke, Bitadze) and another nearly $40M in team options/non-guaranteed deals (Isaac, Ingles, Moritz, Houstan), but I don't get the sense that Weltman considers that to be as big of a problem as certain fans - myself included - do.

The Magic are not "content" with anything. Their stated goal is to win a championship.

Making a stupid desperate trade is actually worse in achieving the goal of a championship than doing nothing.

[Knightro]

The Magic are not "content" with anything. Their stated goal is to win a championship.

Making a stupid desperate trade is actually worse in achieving the goal of a championship than doing nothing.

There’s obviously a difference between being content *right now* and being content forever.

But you knew that.

[AaronB]

The Magic are not "content" with anything. Their stated goal is to win a championship.

Making a stupid desperate trade is actually worse in achieving the goal of a championship than doing nothing.

There’s obviously a difference between being content *right now* and being content forever.

But you knew that.

I will say it clearer

The Magic FO is not content today or ever.

They are simply opposed to making trades for non-difference-maker players at obscene prices.

[KillMonger]

I'd rather get the non difference makers on our team off it, to bring in players that fit better around paolo and Franz... Much rather that happen sooner rather than later since I want the team to be more viable in the playoffs.... This team as is? All a playoff team has to do is pack the paint and dare markelle and Suggs to shoot.... Dare Cole Anthony to shoot.... Dare an inconsistent Gary Harris to shoot.... Yeah.... Some changes need to be made

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[jezzerinho]

The Magic are not "content" with anything. Their stated goal is to win a championship.

Making a stupid desperate trade is actually worse in achieving the goal of a championship than doing nothing.

There’s obviously a difference between being content *right now* and being content forever.

But you knew that.

I will say it clearer

The Magic FO is not content today or ever.

They are simply opposed to making trades for non-difference-maker players at obscene prices.

Friend, you either work for the team or you have a very warped idea about the possible range of outcomes that result from trading for a player/s. Teams all around us are making moves that are very definitely improving their pace of success. Some are further back, some are pushing for Championships but all of the ones I'm referring to have made big leaps by finding complementary players.

A year or so ago, Smart was the beating heart of the Celtics. The guy who made the machine tick over.

Fast forward a year and he's gone, olaying poorly in his new destination and replaced by a superior player. At the same time last year Porzingis was an NBA afterthought. I actually wanted the Magic to go after him at some point.

Anyway, with those 2 "mediocre" moves, the Celtics are better than ever.

Plenty of teams dont get those trades right? Well if thats what youre worried about, why the heck are you placing so much faith in Weltman to guide us? Its his job to get those moves right. Whats for sure is you cant screw up the trade you never made.

[zaymon]

There’s obviously a difference between being content *right now* and being content forever.

But you knew that.

I will say it clearer

The Magic FO is not content today or ever.

They are simply opposed to making trades for non-difference-maker players at obscene prices.

Friend, you either work for the team or you have a very warped idea about the possible range of outcomes that result from trading for a player/s. Teams all around us are making moves that are very definitely improving their pace of success. Some are further back, some are pushing for Championships but all of the ones I'm referring to have made big leaps by finding complementary players.

A year or so ago, Smart was the beating heart of the Celtics. The guy who made the machine tick over.

Fast forward a year and he's gone, olaying poorly in his new destination and replaced by a superior player. At the same time last year Porzingis was an NBA afterthought. I actually wanted the Magic to go after him at some point.

Anyway, with those 2 "mediocre" moves, the Celtics are better than ever.

Plenty of teams dont get those trades right? Well if thats what youre worried about, why the heck are you placing so much faith in Weltman to guide us? Its his job to get those moves right. Whats for sure is you cant screw up the trade you never made.

You remember all the jokes about every trade Ainge didnt make ? They started to act differently when Brown was 25 and Tatum 23. We are still 2-3 years away from that with Franz 22 and Paolo 21.
I agree we should improve on clear disasters like Fultz and Cole but its still early for biggers move, especially if they are for controversial players like Murray.