Miami Heat 2024 Regular Season - Thread 4.0

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Embiid better get on the phone with Wade, he needs to do a full repair. If he goes the Wade route he is COOKED

[MettaWorldPanda]

Also keep in mind with buyout players

2023-24 Luxury Tax Totals
Denotes the Heat current standing in terms of the luxury tax threshold. Teams that spend over the threshold pay fines (estimated below).
TYPE TOTALS
2023 NBA Luxury Tax Threshold $165,294,000
Total Taxable Salaries $173,787,841
Current Luxury Tax Space $-8,493,841
Est. Luxury Tax Bill $13,614,224

If they Heat sign anybody right now it's basically going to cost them double the amount of what they pay in hard salary because of the tax. We are only 1.787 million away from getting below the 2nd apron. That's one Dru Smith salary dump away. We are not going to add right now unless we make a trade that gets us more under the 1st apron.

Salary cap: $136 million
Luxury tax: $165 million
First apron: $172 million
Second apron: $182.5 million

What are the penalties for the first apron?
The first apron hits when a team's payroll exceeds $172 million. At this point, the following restrictions are triggered:

Teams cannot acquire a player in a sign-and-trade if that player keeps them above the apron
Teams cannot sign a player waived during the regular season whose salary was over the $12.2 million midlevel exception
Salary matching in trades must be within 110 percent, rather than 125 percent for teams not above the apron


What are the penalties for the second apron?
All of the penalties for the first apron apply to the second apron as well, which is triggered when a team's salary exceeds $182.5 million. For the 2023-24 season, one additional penalty is added when crossing the second apron:

No access to the $5 million taxpayer midlevel exception
Starting at the end of the 2023-24 season, even more restrictions will be added to the second apron. These include:

Teams cannot use a trade exception generated by aggregating the salaries of multiple players
Teams cannot include cash in a trade
Teams cannot use a trade exception generated in a prior year
First-round picks seven years out are frozen (unable to be traded)
A team's first-round pick is moved to the end of the first round if they remain in the second apron for three out of five seasons
These penalties are much more stringent than under the old CBA. Previously, owners with deep pockets could go well into the luxury tax as long as they were willing to pay. Now, teams who enter the second apron will have difficulty adding any sort of new talent via trades or free agent acquisitions.

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[IceColdCubano]

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Contenders out there looking to keep adding size, were gonna get demolished these playoffs if we even make it.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

If this team comes out 2-3 out of those next 5 games, they would be right back to same spot they were after the 7 game losing streak. The hope is you come out 4-1 here at all cost to have a chance as turning the season around.

4-1 would be nice but I don’t see it unfortunately

There are 2 games left prior to the trade deadline expiring, I think they need to win both for FO to look at this team as a viable contender for them to use up some assets for a trade and make another swing. If they loss the next 2 I think they call this build and just wait and see what they do in the playoffs if they make it. The build ends, after this season, losing is actually going to make them shy away from making another trade, because it proves to them it just won't be enough to make a difference at losing more assets.

That’s the thing though; it’s the same thing as last year. We sucked, made no moves and ended up in the finals. Had they made moves at the deadline last year there could’ve been a different outcome that resulted in a championship. History tells us this build is basically good for getting to game 7 of the ECF at minimum despite several injuries with Jimmy and Bam being so impactful and Spo being the best coach in the world. I think they need to be proactive regardless of these next 2 games.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Wow. Imagine if he was our 4 lol

[MettaWorldPanda]

You guys can't even imagine how huge the Rozier deal was for us cap wise to even get us within striking distance from getting out of the 2nd apron by the deadline.

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This our build for now folks until the end of this season, where we may or may not go out and make a serious change.

Looking at this report and you would think the Heat are trying everything damn possible to get our from under either Herro or Duncan's salary by the deadline. I'm glad you posted this because I feel like there are some who have no idea or care to look into the ramifications of our salary cap situation. It's important to educate

I tried to explain this last year. You can't just look at the current roster, you have to look at your future financials also with this new CBA and how to build the team. During this build they've decided to not prioritize/pay for a PF, that may change in the summer and some of this highly paid one-way guards will probably change too, with Miami giving up a 1st for Rozier I doubt he goes anywhere and is probably part of their new build.

[IceColdCubano]

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This our build for now folks until the end of this season, where we may or may not go out and make a serious change.

Looking at this report and you would think the Heat are trying everything damn possible to get our from under either Herro or Duncan's salary by the deadline. I'm glad you posted this because I feel like there are some who have no idea or care to look into the ramifications of our salary cap situation. It's important to educate

I tried to explain this last year. You can't just look at the current roster, you have to look at your future financials also with this new CBA and how to build the team. During this build they've decided to not prioritize/pay for a PF, that may change in the summer and some of this highly paid one-way guards will probably change too, with Miami giving up a 1st for Rozier I doubt he goes anywhere and is probably part of their new build.

You may be right, Miami may not be looking at making a small unsuccessful swing here, this is kind of a chess move, where you make this change to have something ready to head into the right direction. Next offseason where bigger fish may be available, you have access to use Herro/Duncan's larger salaries to go look for a bigger swing that could affect the build moving forward.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[MettaWorldPanda]

If we do nothing trade wise i can almost guarantee we will be dumping Bryant and Dru Smith salaries with the 2026 2nd rd pick to get out of the 2nd apron. Then sign a couple of our two ways on prorated dirt cheap deals to meet roster requirements and not go over.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[MettaWorldPanda]

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The only way you get DeRozan is using Herro’s contract. Plain and simple.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Spo is going to play DeRozan at PF lol

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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The only way you get DeRozan is using Herro’s contract. Plain and simple.

We’re getting the better but older player who is on a large expiring. I’m fine with it, apparently he and Jimmy have both shown more of a willingness to shoot the 3 this season.

The bigger question is if we throw Duncan’s contract into the mix to add massive size in Vucevic who is averaging 17-11-4 and has multiple seasons shooting at or near 40% from 3 on 6 attempts a game and is having a solid defensive season.

[IceColdCubano]

Spo is going to play DeRozan at PF lol

100% guaranteed, he is our starting PF. LMAO DeRozan, Jimmy, Bam, together is recipe for a 95 Offensive rating moving forward.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Spo is going to play DeRozan at PF lol

100% lol he’s been getting alot of reps there over the years

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Damn Derozan has a 121 ORTG this year, Jimmy has a 130

[MettaWorldPanda]

Spo is going to play DeRozan at PF lol

100% guaranteed, he is our starting PF. LMAO DeRozan, Jimmy, Bam, together is recipe for a 95 Offensive rating moving forward.

Will be masters of the midrange

[MettaWorldPanda]

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The only way you get DeRozan is using Herro’s contract. Plain and simple.

We’re getting the better but older player who is on a large expiring. I’m fine with it, apparently he and Jimmy have both shown more of a willingness to shoot the 3 this season.

The bigger question is if we throw Duncan’s contract into the mix to add massive size in Vucevic who is averaging 17-11-4 and has multiple seasons shooting at or near 40% from 3 on 6 attempts a game and is having a solid defensive season.

Herro, Duncan, and Jovic for DeRozan and Vucevic works to the nose 47 mil in and out both ways