Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 2.0

BadMofoPimp · Post #1361 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 3:13 am

Knightro wrote:Tyus for Fultz and picks?

or

Tyus and Kispert for Gary and Cole and picks?

I would ONLY do 2nd rounders for Tyus.

Post #1362 » by **SOUL** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 3:14 am

89Magicfan wrote:
davey_wavy wrote:From "friend"

#1 target is Tyus

Brogdon & Lowry & Paul being discussed

Not pursuing Murray, Simons, or Trae but still listening

Have called on Kispert, Royce, Merrill, and Doug

Rival teams calling about Suggs & JI availability

Mediocrity at its finest.

We don't need a home run trade though.

Teams aren't willingly going to give us their best players lol.

But if the asking price is relatively cheap for Murray or Brogdon or Simons (like 2 picks + player) then we should def call.

Otherwise, I'd be fine with lower tiered guys.. not so much Lowry.

bigdogdylan5 · Post #1363 » by **bigdogdylan5** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 3:16 am

MagicMatic wrote:
CocoaFan wrote:Who would do J. Isaac + A. Black -> A. Simons? You have to give to get

Nah.

Fan base needs to give up on all these shooters who play bad defense with Simon being chief among them. Magic aren’t trading for them. They have said and showed they want a length and defense versatility is number 1. All the shooters they have gotten have length Jett and Houston. Even Harris was a good defender and a shooter second.

bigdogdylan5 · Post #1364 » by **bigdogdylan5** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 3:21 am

Knightro wrote:Tyus for Fultz and picks?

or

Tyus and Kispert for Gary and Cole and picks?

Knightro not totally directed at you it’s more of a twitter pet peeve recently but really despising the trade proposals with “picks” lol. Are we talking two seconds 3 firsts it’s an easy way to hide I want a good player but don’t want to give an accurate trade

Bergmaniac · Post #1365 » by **Bergmaniac** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 3:26 am

bigdogdylan5 wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
CocoaFan wrote:Who would do J. Isaac + A. Black -> A. Simons? You have to give to get

Nah.

Fan base needs to give up on all these shooters who play bad defense with Simon being chief among them. Magic aren’t trading for them. They have said and showed they want a length and defense versatility is number 1. All the shooters they have gotten have length Jett and Houston. Even Harris was a good defender and a shooter second.

On the other hand, they drafted and extended Cole .

89Magicfan · Post #1366 » by **89Magicfan** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 3:30 am

SOUL wrote:
89Magicfan wrote:
davey_wavy wrote:From "friend"

#1 target is Tyus

Brogdon & Lowry & Paul being discussed

Not pursuing Murray, Simons, or Trae but still listening

Have called on Kispert, Royce, Merrill, and Doug

Rival teams calling about Suggs & JI availability

Mediocrity at its finest.

We don't need a home run trade though.

Teams aren't willingly going to give us their best players lol.

But if the asking price is relatively cheap for Murray or Brogdon or Simons (like 2 picks + player) then we should def call.

Otherwise, I'd be fine with lower tiered guys.. not so much Lowry.

When you’re talking about finding a starting PG I think you kinda do need a home run.

RookieStar · Post #1367 » by **RookieStar** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 3:32 am

Bergmaniac wrote:
bigdogdylan5 wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
Nah.

Fan base needs to give up on all these shooters who play bad defense with Simon being chief among them. Magic aren’t trading for them. They have said and showed they want a length and defense versatility is number 1. All the shooters they have gotten have length Jett and Houston. Even Harris was a good defender and a shooter second.

On the other hand, they drafted and extended Cole .

No one ever called Cole a shooter. A scorer yes not a shooter.

Post #1368 » by **Knightro** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 3:36 am

bigdogdylan5 wrote:
Knightro wrote:Tyus for Fultz and picks?

or

Tyus and Kispert for Gary and Cole and picks?

Knightro not totally directed at you it’s more of a twitter pet peeve recently but really despising the trade proposals with “picks” lol. Are we talking two seconds 3 firsts it’s an easy way to hide I want a good player but don’t want to give an accurate trade

In this case (Tyus) it would be multiple 2nd rounders.

Post #1369 » by **SOUL** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 3:42 am

89Magicfan wrote:When you’re talking about finding a starting PG I think you kinda do need a home run.

Then we'd better damn make sure that person is the answer long term. Not sure that trade is out there yet.

Post #1370 » by **eyriq** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 3:43 am

SOUL wrote:
89Magicfan wrote:When you’re talking about finding a starting PG I think you kinda do need a home run.

Then we'd better damn make sure that person is the answer long term. Not sure that trade is out there yet.

We drafted our homerun PG

MasterGMer · Post #1371 » by **MasterGMer** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 3:52 am

eyriq wrote:
SOUL wrote:
89Magicfan wrote:When you’re talking about finding a starting PG I think you kinda do need a home run.

Then we'd better damn make sure that person is the answer long term. Not sure that trade is out there yet.
We drafted our homerun PG

Yes, AB is our future

89Magicfan · Post #1372 » by **89Magicfan** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 4:21 am

eyriq wrote:
SOUL wrote:
89Magicfan wrote:When you’re talking about finding a starting PG I think you kinda do need a home run.

Then we'd better damn make sure that person is the answer long term. Not sure that trade is out there yet.
We drafted our homerun PG

That’s what you’re hoping.

tiderulz · Post #1373 » by **tiderulz** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 4:33 am

Bergmaniac wrote:
bigdogdylan5 wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
Nah.

Fan base needs to give up on all these shooters who play bad defense with Simon being chief among them. Magic aren’t trading for them. They have said and showed they want a length and defense versatility is number 1. All the shooters they have gotten have length Jett and Houston. Even Harris was a good defender and a shooter second.

On the other hand, they drafted and extended Cole .

and Simons is 6'9+ wingspan, so he has length.

tiderulz · Post #1374 » by **tiderulz** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 4:34 am

Knightro wrote:
bigdogdylan5 wrote:
Knightro wrote:Tyus for Fultz and picks?

or

Tyus and Kispert for Gary and Cole and picks?

Knightro not totally directed at you it’s more of a twitter pet peeve recently but really despising the trade proposals with “picks” lol. Are we talking two seconds 3 firsts it’s an easy way to hide I want a good player but don’t want to give an accurate trade

In this case (Tyus) it would be multiple 2nd rounders.

he is expiring and not in their future plans, i wouldnt do more than 2 and likely just 1 good 2nd.

Rainwater · Post #1375 » by **Rainwater** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 4:39 am

Might just be me but I don see a realistic trade out there, I hope I am wrong though.

Post #1376 » by **SOUL** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 4:41 am

Rainwater wrote:Might just be me but I don see a realistic trade out there, I hope I am wrong though.

Huh? We have cap space, expirings, picks, and areas of needed upgrade with targets that are get-able. That's all you really need for a realistic trade.

For "home run" trades, obviously it would take trading a lot more and people may be more cautious.

Skin · Post #1377 » by **Skin** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 5:20 am

fendilim wrote:
Skin wrote:
The Real Dalic wrote:Kispert is the non-PG bench shooter I want the most. He's good friends with Suggs and fits the timeline with the rest of the team.

I'd rather give Jett a chance first and not give up anything.

Why not have both?

Playing time matters more than competition. We invested a nice pick for Jett. Now is not the time to squeeze him out.

Skin · Post #1378 » by **Skin** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 5:22 am

eyriq wrote:
SOUL wrote:
89Magicfan wrote:When you’re talking about finding a starting PG I think you kinda do need a home run.

Then we'd better damn make sure that person is the answer long term. Not sure that trade is out there yet.
We drafted our homerun PG

At his best who would you hope to compare him to?

RookieStar · Post #1379 » by **RookieStar** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 5:34 am

Bergmaniac wrote:
bigdogdylan5 wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
Nah.

Fan base needs to give up on all these shooters who play bad defense with Simon being chief among them. Magic aren’t trading for them. They have said and showed they want a length and defense versatility is number 1. All the shooters they have gotten have length Jett and Houston. Even Harris was a good defender and a shooter second.

On the other hand, they drafted and extended Cole .

No one ever called Cole a shooter. A scorer yes not a shooter.

fendilim · Post #1380 » by **fendilim** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 6:03 am

Skin wrote:
fendilim wrote:
Skin wrote:I'd rather give Jett a chance first and not give up anything.

Why not have both?

Playing time matters more than competition. We invested a nice pick for Jett. Now is not the time to squeeze him out.

True. And there are lots of minutes to move around tbh.

Gary, Joe, Fultz will eventually be gone or slowly have the roles reduced. Black gets Fultz’, Kispert for Gary’s, and Jett for Joe.

I think Corey and Jett can co-exist. Not to mention, Cole can be moved too.