Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread

[daoneandonly]

I'm not even sure to trade Green with Exum always injuried...maybe no moves and extra rest this summer for Luka+fire Kidd is the best case scenario for us.

Green is becoming another Hardaway...you cant give them up unless you find someone who can produce more.
Problem is their inconsistency keeps their value down so it is impossible to improve the team by trading them.

We might be stuck with both of them.

PJW is also inconsistent, he's a better player than Green, but Green has higher cieling and he has paths to improve, PJW is pretty much who he is.
I'd trade Green for PJW, but the trade isn't a bad trade for the Hornets, they can trade for a 1st, but they aren't assured they are getting a rotation player with it, Green is a very good fit with Melo.

Who would you guys prefer between Cam Johnson and PJ Washington all things considering? Not sure if Cam is on the market, but love the fit with Luka & Lively

[Mavrelous]

Green is becoming another Hardaway...you cant give them up unless you find someone who can produce more.
Problem is their inconsistency keeps their value down so it is impossible to improve the team by trading them.

We might be stuck with both of them.

PJW is also inconsistent, he's a better player than Green, but Green has higher cieling and he has paths to improve, PJW is pretty much who he is.
I'd trade Green for PJW, but the trade isn't a bad trade for the Hornets, they can trade for a 1st, but they aren't assured they are getting a rotation player with it, Green is a very good fit with Melo.

Who would you guys prefer between Cam Johnson and PJ Washington all things considering? Not sure if Cam is on the market, but love the fit with Luka & Lively

PJW, I'm not high on CamJo on that contract, CamJo also has been in great situations, so he had the conditions to maximize his produciton, PJW has been in NBA purgatory, there might be stuff he didn't get to show.

[daoneandonly]

PJW is also inconsistent, he's a better player than Green, but Green has higher cieling and he has paths to improve, PJW is pretty much who he is.
I'd trade Green for PJW, but the trade isn't a bad trade for the Hornets, they can trade for a 1st, but they aren't assured they are getting a rotation player with it, Green is a very good fit with Melo.

Who would you guys prefer between Cam Johnson and PJ Washington all things considering? Not sure if Cam is on the market, but love the fit with Luka & Lively

PJW, I'm not high on CamJo on that contract, CamJo also has been in great situations, so he had the conditions to maximize his produciton, PJW has been in NBA purgatory, there might be stuff he didn't get to show.

Yea hard to get a gauge on Cam's value, but if we could unload Holmes in the process, I think it's worth it. Not sure if this is fair but

Mavs get: Cam Johnson, Dennis Smith Jr
Nets get: PJ Washington, Rishaun Holmes
Hornets get: Josh Gree, Seth Curry

Dallas fills 2 needs, a starting caliber 4 who can spread the floor and defend, and a backup PG since the Aussie boys are always hurt. Plus DSJ and Luka are friends. BKN cuts Cam's salary significantly by swapping him with PJ who is also good. One year of Holmes, but this puts them in even better position to target Spida or others in FA 25. Charlotte gets Green and a hometown Curry

[Mavrelous]

Who would you guys prefer between Cam Johnson and PJ Washington all things considering? Not sure if Cam is on the market, but love the fit with Luka & Lively

PJW, I'm not high on CamJo on that contract, CamJo also has been in great situations, so he had the conditions to maximize his produciton, PJW has been in NBA purgatory, there might be stuff he didn't get to show.

Yea hard to get a gauge on Cam's value, but if we could unload Holmes in the process, I think it's worth it. Not sure if this is fair but

Mavs get: Cam Johnson, Dennis Smith Jr
Nets get: PJ Washington, Rishaun Holmes
Hornets get: Josh Gree, Seth Curry

Dallas fills 2 needs, a starting caliber 4 who can spread the floor and defend, and a backup PG since the Aussie boys are always hurt. Plus DSJ and Luka are friends. BKN cuts Cam's salary significantly by swapping him with PJ who is also good. One year of Holmes, but this puts them in even better position to target Spida or others in FA 25. Charlotte gets Green and a hometown Curry

I'd rather just cut the Nets, take PJW.

[Marko_MFFL]

If they were to make a trade with the Nets, I'd rather pick Cam Johnson and Royce O'Neale than DFS.
What's up with Jerami Grant? Kuzma or PJ Washington seems like more realistic trade options?

[Mavrelous]

If they were to make a trade with the Nets, I'd rather pick Cam Johnson and Royce O'Neale than DFS.
What's up with Jerami Grant? Kuzma or PJ Washington seems like more realistic trade options?

With new cap rules, no one should trade an asset for Jerami Grant, this contract will be a HEAVY burden in just 2 years, POR is just looking for the next sucker, like they did with Dame.

[Swish77]

If they were to make a trade with the Nets, I'd rather pick Cam Johnson and Royce O'Neale than DFS.
What's up with Jerami Grant? Kuzma or PJ Washington seems like more realistic trade options?

Grant is a toxic deal I dont want on the mavs books for years to come. Kuzma Cant play defense and Catch and shoot numbers are awful low to mid 30's that doesn't fit here. PJ is a under sized PF/C at 6'7 Do we really want to deal with him being picked apart on the defense side of the court? Nah I'm good on that.

[Swish77]

I'm not even sure to trade Green with Exum always injuried...maybe no moves and extra rest this summer for Luka+fire Kidd is the best case scenario for us.

Green is becoming another Hardaway...you cant give them up unless you find someone who can produce more.
Problem is their inconsistency keeps their value down so it is impossible to improve the team by trading them.

We might be stuck with both of them.

PJW is also inconsistent, he's a better player than Green, but Green has higher cieling and he has paths to improve, PJW is pretty much who he is.
I'd trade Green for PJW, but the trade isn't a bad trade for the Hornets, they can trade for a 1st, but they aren't assured they are getting a rotation player with it, Green is a very good fit with Melo.

So mavs trade a 1st for another inconsistent player? That's wasting an asset. And it doesn't make the team any better. Why do we keep making trades that run luka into the ground? Is that the goal here? let's just keep throwing 1st's at trades that don't make us any better.

[BliscoSantos]

Mavs should keep the first...I'd honestly call GS about Wiggins... he's having a down year,but is still Young and I think he'd do good in Dallas...he has some handles, he'd have a lot of space with Luka and Kai and he's a good defender...THJ and Powell might get it done

[Mavrelous]

Green is becoming another Hardaway...you cant give them up unless you find someone who can produce more.
Problem is their inconsistency keeps their value down so it is impossible to improve the team by trading them.

We might be stuck with both of them.

PJW is also inconsistent, he's a better player than Green, but Green has higher cieling and he has paths to improve, PJW is pretty much who he is.
I'd trade Green for PJW, but the trade isn't a bad trade for the Hornets, they can trade for a 1st, but they aren't assured they are getting a rotation player with it, Green is a very good fit with Melo.

So mavs trade a 1st for another inconsistent player? That's wasting an asset. And it doesn't make the team any better. Why do we keep making trades that run luka into the ground? Is that the goal here? let's just keep throwing 1st's at trades that don't make us any better.

No, I'm not saying Mavs should trade a 1st for him, I'm saying Mavs should trade Green for him, and it wouldn't be a bad deal for the Hornets IMHO, it would be better than getting some 1st from other team, we'll see how it goes.

[Swish77]

Mavs should keep the first...I'd honestly call GS about Wiggins... he's having a down year,but is still Young and I think he'd do good in Dallas...he has some handles, he'd have a lot of space with Luka and Kai and he's a good defender...THJ and Powell might get it done

This doesn't move the needle it doesn't make us better tho.

[BliscoSantos]

Mavs should keep the first...I'd honestly call GS about Wiggins... he's having a down year,but is still Young and I think he'd do good in Dallas...he has some handles, he'd have a lot of space with Luka and Kai and he's a good defender...THJ and Powell might get it done

This doesn't move the needle it doesn't make us better tho.

It does if they add a backup C,like Drummond, and a real PF...this team doesn't have a problem scoring,they have problems on D and rebounding...you really don't lose O with this and you get better on D...this would be a solid move before the offseason...and it wouldn't really cost much...you have to buy low,not when the price is sky high, especialy when you have Little to no assets

[Swish77]

Mavs should keep the first...I'd honestly call GS about Wiggins... he's having a down year,but is still Young and I think he'd do good in Dallas...he has some handles, he'd have a lot of space with Luka and Kai and he's a good defender...THJ and Powell might get it done

This doesn't move the needle it doesn't make us better tho.

It does if they add a backup C,like Drummond, and a real PF...this team doesn't have a problem scoring,they have problems on D and rebounding...you really don't lose O with this and you get better on D...this would be a solid move before the offseason...and it wouldn't really cost much...you have to buy low,not when the price is sky high, especialy when you have Little to no assets

Hold up. 1st it was wiggins now your saying we need drummond? At this point we are just throwing trades and seeing which ever sticks? Like lets be honest here. Drummond wouldnt cost much? yes it would. Reason why he hasnt been moved yet Bulls asking price is high. Again We can't continue to drive luka into the ground with awful trades. Making a trades means we make luka's life easier Kinda like last night luka's game he has was very easy game didnt have to do much. He didnt have to turn into superman and save our game. We need more games like that. Wiggins or Drummond doesnt move to needle to help him. Wiggins is a worse defender then THJ this year per defense ratings. Wiggins shoots worse then THJ from 3. No stat says its a upgrade. Plus we would take on Wiggins money which is awful. On top of that THJ has a very very very team friendly deal for this year and next. Its not an upgrade its a degrade.

[BliscoSantos]

This doesn't move the needle it doesn't make us better tho.

It does if they add a backup C,like Drummond, and a real PF...this team doesn't have a problem scoring,they have problems on D and rebounding...you really don't lose O with this and you get better on D...this would be a solid move before the offseason...and it wouldn't really cost much...you have to buy low,not when the price is sky high, especialy when you have Little to no assets

Hold up. 1st it was wiggins now your saying we need drummond? At this point we are just throwing trades and seeing which ever sticks? Like lets be honest here. Drummond wouldnt cost much? yes it would. Reason why he hasnt been moved yet Bulls asking price is high. Again We can't continue to drive luka into the ground with awful trades. Making a trades means we make luka's life easier Kinda like last night luka's game he has was very easy game didnt have to do much. He didnt have to turn into superman and save our game. We need more games like that. Wiggins or Drummond doesnt move to needle to help him. Wiggins is a worse defender then THJ this year per defense ratings. Wiggins shoots worse then THJ from 3. No stat says its a upgrade. Plus we would take on Wiggins money which is awful. On top of that THJ has a very very very team friendly deal for this year and next. Its not an upgrade its a degrade.

Sure , let's keep this roster,guard heavy, together...it's been working amazing so far...one good game doesn't change the pattern of the season and are we really gonna base the optimism when they played PHI without Embild..the sample of them steuggling is much bigger than that of them exceling...and relying on statistic and analitics has always been the way to go??... that's why the Mavs didn't go for Markanen,when he was begging them to get him...that's why People wouldn't trade Maxi and pieces for Randle... Yes,this team needs a SF, a PF and a backup C...enough with the four guard lineups...two of THJ,Hardy,Green and Curry need to be replaced by bigger Players ... They're already admiting that Grant signing was a mistake ,judging by the rumors... he's too small for a PF and slow for SF..Kidd is begging them for bigger Players...sure you can't plug all the holes now,but they need to start doing something... they're not competing for the tittle this year but that doesn't mean you can't do a deal if its there...they know what this Players can do, they've been around Long enough,you know their shortcomings

[41Dirk41]

Guys we need Tobias Harris, if Embiid is really done for the season we must make a push for him.
He is great all around player.

[JKiddy]

I have a strange feeling you are about to go in for DFS. What would that trade look like?

[Mavrelous]

I have a strange feeling you are about to go in for DFS. What would that trade look like?

Holmes, Hardy and 2 2nds.

[daoneandonly]

I have a strange feeling you are about to go in for DFS. What would that trade look like?

If BKN is insistent on a FRP, there should not be a deal. Dallas cant keep giving them away, especially for marginal upgrades like DFS. And Im one of his biggest fans, maybe my 3rd fave player outside of Luka & Lively. But still, rather have the 1st and flexibility that comes with that

[daoneandonly]

I have a strange feeling you are about to go in for DFS. What would that trade look like?

Holmes, Hardy and 2 2nds.

Yea this should be the top offer, Dalals should even hold out from including 2 seconds since its so barren here. ANother thing we can blame on Brunson. When he guarded Memphis Delon Wright the guy dropped 2 triple doubles on Jalen's head and tricked this idiotic FO into trading 2nds for him. Then they had to trade 2nds to unload him.

[JKiddy]

I cannot see them trading DFS without one (if not one first and two seconds). So do you really think DAL will strike out on this or other PF deals?