Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24

[zoyathedestroya]

Simone Fontecchio is "Injury Insurance" in Italian. I only remember him from this World Cup game. Maybe Brad's gathered intel from Gallo and GiGi re Simone and liked what he heard.

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Naji Marshall is absolutely not an adequate shooter. He's shooting 30% from the three over 497 attempts. His volume is also very low. Basically an Oshae Brissett-level shooter from the outside.
Apparently he was likened to Ben Simmons without size and talent coming out of college.

30% from 3 last season and 36% this season. Perhaps he's gotten better?

3 years in a row now he's been at 79% FT..seems like he has pretty good touch.

And the volume isn't that bad. Over 2 attempts a game, he's been at least 5.7 3PA/100 possessions each year of his career. Not a high number but not crazy low either.

I'd say he's an adequate shooter. Meanwhile Brissett was 31% from 3 last season, 29% this season. FT% has only been in the 68-71 range over the past couple yrs, his form looks like it's literally painful to shoot. I wouldn't say they're the same level of shooters.

He'd be a nice option for Mazzulla to have at his disposal. More strength, athleticism, defense than Hauser. More shooting than Brissett.

With that being said, Pelicans are trying to win so I don't see them trading 1 of their rotation players to the best team in the league..

[Cuban Pete]

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Ok, let's just trade everyone on our bench except Horford for these 3 guys.

A bench of Horford, Olynyk, Fontecchio and Dunn sounds good to me!

Olynyk's 4.0 3ptAtt/100pos is at a career low. His 20.2 DRB% is the highest it's been in 3 years. Fontecchio is a downgrade from Hauser. Dunn is a terrible shooter with a 21.2 TO%. Plus Oylnyk isn't cheap. Pass.

This rumor implies that the recent team struggles are a result the bench. That's only part of it. Specifically, the weakest areas are backup center and 1st wing from the bench. A good chunk of blame is on the starters. KP's DRB% of 17.9 is a career low. There's something not right with him. Jrue is showing his age. He turns 34 in June. Jaylen isn't playing like a supermaxer.

The team should stop obsessing with best record nonsense. The last 3 postseasons have shown just how overrated home court advantage really is. They need to rest/fix (if possible) KP and improve their bench. Perhaps giving Walsh minutes in the process. Walsh's ceiling is higher than those of Dunn, Olynyk, and Fontecchio combined.

[Celts17Pride]

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[BK_2020]

Naji Marshall is absolutely not an adequate shooter. He's shooting 30% from the three over 497 attempts. His volume is also very low. Basically an Oshae Brissett-level shooter from the outside.
Apparently he was likened to Ben Simmons without size and talent coming out of college.

30% from 3 last season and 36% this season. Perhaps he's gotten better?

3 years in a row now he's been at 79% FT..seems like he has pretty good touch.

And the volume isn't that bad. Over 2 attempts a game, he's been at least 5.7 3PA/100 possessions each year of his career. Not a high number but not crazy low either.

I'd say he's an adequate shooter. Meanwhile Brissett was 31% from 3 last season, 29% this season. FT% has only been in the 68-71 range over the past couple yrs, his form looks like it's literally painful to shoot. I wouldn't say they're the same level of shooters.

He'd be a nice option for Mazzulla to have at his disposal. More strength, athleticism, defense than Hauser. More shooting than Brissett.

With that being said, Pelicans are trying to win so I don't see them trading 1 of their rotation players to the best team in the league..

You can't rely on a 91 attempts sample. It takes about 700 attempts for 3P% to stabilize.
5.7 per 100 is not good for 2020s. To give Marshall's numbers some context, Brissett is 6.9 3PA per 100 for his career and 34% over 522 attempts. He's Prime Klay compared to Marshall.

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Fontecchio is a downgrade from Hauser.

Eh, agree to disagree.

I think they're comparable shooters and that Fontecchio is stronger, more athletic, quicker, better ball handler, better passer, better rebounder and better at driving and finishing near the rim.

Fontecchio is also 2 years older and is in his 12th season playing pro ball, compared to Hauser who's in his 3rd season which tells me Fontecchio is further in his development and more likely to be able to contribute in a playoff setting.

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Walsh's ceiling is higher than those of Dunn, Olynyk, and Fontecchio combined.

Eh. Let's remember Walsh is a 2nd round pick who had a rough season in college last year. And has played 0 meaningful mins at rhe NBA level.

And even if what you say is true, we aren't a rebuilding team that needs to keep 19 year old kids with "upside". We need win-now players who can get us over the hump to finally win our first title since 2008.

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Ok, let's just trade everyone on our bench except Horford for these 3 guys.

A bench of Horford, Olynyk, Fontecchio and Dunn sounds good to me!

Olynyk's 4.0 3ptAtt/100pos is at a career low. His 20.2 DRB% is the highest it's been in 3 years. Fontecchio is a downgrade from Hauser. Dunn is a terrible shooter with a 21.2 TO%. Plus Oylnyk isn't cheap. Pass.

This rumor implies that the recent team struggles are a result the bench. That's only part of it. Specifically, the weakest areas are backup center and 1st wing from the bench. A good chunk of blame is on the starters. KP's DRB% of 17.9 is a career low. There's something not right with him. Jrue is showing his age. He turns 34 in June. Jaylen isn't playing like a supermaxer.

The team should stop obsessing with best record nonsense. The last 3 postseasons have shown just how overrated home court advantage really is. They need to rest/fix (if possible) KP and improve their bench. Perhaps giving Walsh minutes in the process. Walsh's ceiling is higher than those of Dunn, Olynyk, and Fontecchio combined.

I think it’s fair to say Olynyk/Dunn have been given outsized roles compared to typical. Eg Dunn starting, KO basically playing PG.

[MrGreenRunsDeep]

Simone Fontecchio is "Injury Insurance" in Italian. I only remember him from this World Cup game. Maybe Brad's gathered intel from Gallo and GiGi re Simone and liked what he heard.

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Garbage

[zoyathedestroya]

Simone Fontecchio is "Injury Insurance" in Italian. I only remember him from this World Cup game. Maybe Brad's gathered intel from Gallo and GiGi re Simone and liked what he heard.

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Garbage

Very insightful. Any new thoughts on Aron Baynes?

[Green89]

Fontecchio is a downgrade from Hauser.

Eh, agree to disagree.

I think they're comparable shooters and that Fontecchio is stronger, more athletic, quicker, better ball handler, better passer, better rebounder and better at driving and finishing near the rim.

Fontecchio is also 2 years older and is in his 12th season playing pro ball, compared to Hauser who's in his 3rd season which tells me Fontecchio is further in his development and more likely to be able to contribute in a playoff setting.

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Walsh's ceiling is higher than those of Dunn, Olynyk, and Fontecchio combined.

Eh. Let's remember Walsh is a 2nd round pick who had a rough season in college last year. And has played 0 meaningful mins at rhe NBA level.

And even if what you say is true, we aren't a rebuilding team that needs to keep 19 year old kids with "upside". We need win-now players who can get us over the hump to finally win our first title since 2008.

Simone would be replacement minutes over Svi/Oshae/Stevens/Banton, not Hauser.

[tfribs45]

Well well well

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he's a difference maker despite what the haters have to say around here! Watch Mahcuss Smahhhht win a chip before the J's lmao. This board would be on HIGH ALERT

Hate to be the wet blanket, but Heart and Soul isn't winning a title for the Lakers with all of their issues. Celtics are better off with Jrue.

lakers aren't coming out of the west Mr wet blanket , I was being a smart a$$. As for Jrue, he's solid all around just not this huge upgrade everyone's been spewing. That being said I like our chances , just need to add another BIG / Injury insurance / Toughness down low. Playoff intensity is an entirely different game that we've all witnessed in the past.

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You can't rely on a 91 attempts sample. It takes about 700 attempts for 3P% to stabilize.
5.7 per 100 is not good for 2020s. To give Marshall's numbers some context, Brissett is 6.9 3PA per 100 for his career and 34% over 522 attempts. He's Prime Klay compared to Marshall.

Agree to disagree. I care more about recent stats than how a guy shot 4 years ago in the bubble.

Brissett at 6.9 3PA/100 possessions for his career but only 5.0 this season because he's gotten worse as a shooter. Marshall meanwhile is shooting higher volume than that.

And the bold part is trolling, especially when Marshall is shooting much better than Brissett this season and has had a much higher FT% over the past few years.

This conversation has run its course. It's pointless to continue debating a small detail that was part of a larger post by some other guy 2 hours ago. And as I already said, I doubt Marshall comes here anyways since the Pelicans are in the tick of the west playoff picture so they're not gonna give a rotation player to the best team in the league. Let's move on, please.

[BK_2020]

You can't rely on a 91 attempts sample. It takes about 700 attempts for 3P% to stabilize.
5.7 per 100 is not good for 2020s. To give Marshall's numbers some context, Brissett is 6.9 3PA per 100 for his career and 34% over 522 attempts. He's Prime Klay compared to Marshall.

Agree to disagree. I care more about recent stats than how a guy shot 4 years ago in the bubble.

Brissett at 6.9 3PA/100 possessions for his career but only 5.0 this season because he's gotten worse as a shooter. Marshall meanwhile is shooting higher volume than that.

And the bold part is trolling, especially when Marshall is shooting much better than Brissett this season and has had a much higher FT% over the past few years.

Let's move on..

"Let me have the last word for no reason whatsoever then claim I don't want to have this conversation, so let's move on."
- Everyone who said let's move on, ever.

[SLCceltic]

Says the random lurker lol.

Meaning other teams. Idc where anyone goes on a website. All are welcome to “our” board if they want to have good discussion.

Just saying it’s a waste of time because the Bulls FO is so incredibly bad. Boston aims for banners. We aim for playin appearances. It’s pathetic.

Btw, I live in NE, and root for the Celtics to do well pretty much all the time except for rare niche scenarios where the Bulls might actually have something to play for.

I am still unsure about what you saying. Are you saying Drummond is not getting traded, your FO wants to keep him ??

What kind of return would you think Bulls brass would accept for AD ?

Go BEARS !!!! Lots of excitement and PROMISE for us right now ❤️

[RickyDizzle]

Boston trades: Pritchard, Stevens, Banton, Mykhailiuk, Walsh, picks
Utah trades: Olynyk, Dunn, Fontecchio

Sign me up!

I think this one (and smaller versions of it), the Caruso one that has been proposed, the first for Bates-Diop and 5 seconds, and a straight TPE for Saric or maybe Drummond seem the most likely. Probably in close to reverse order of likelihood lol.

Value-wise and if this was like a 2K trade its pretty good, but realistically, not worth the hit to chemistry. If we trade one rotation player (Pritchard) and gain 3 guys that expect to play, then folks in our core rotation are going to lose significant minutes which they may not be happy about. Olynyk will warrant 25 mpg... can rest Horford and Porzingis more, but no more PT for Kornet and Queta. I am kind of fine with that. Dunn takes the Pritchard minutes. Fontecchio is starting now, so where do his minutes come from? A few from Jrue, a few from the Jays, a few from Hauser? To me, I think the ideal trade is to trade people that aren't playing or draft picks for one decent guy to work into the rotation. Working three new players in when we are in first place seems risky.

[Homerclease]

Nobody will be happier than FeedReed if the Celtics come away with Drummond at the trade deadline. I can’t talk myself into wanting him though. I get why, but the dude has never been a winning player since coming into the league and his FT shooting makes him unplayable in the postseason.

Out of all the realistic names floated so far, Walker is my favorite choice. Nick Richards into the TPE would also be a solid addition. Tbh I think they wind up with frappachino and that’s all, but I hope they make more than one move

[playa-hater]

Well I'm going nighty night when I check tomorrow around noon better be 10 legit rumors..

Not sure If I get 10 rumors.. But **** is gonna happen.. I can feel it..

[Fencer reregistered]

Simone Fontecchio is "Injury Insurance" in Italian. I only remember him from this World Cup game. Maybe Brad's gathered intel from Gallo and GiGi re Simone and liked what he heard.

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"Gallo" and "injury insurance" make for an awkward juxtaposition.

[Celts17Pride]

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[playa-hater]

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Ok, let's just trade everyone on our bench except Horford for these 3 guys.

A bench of Horford, Olynyk, Fontecchio and Dunn sounds good to me!

Celts17Pride wrote:

Boston trades: Pritchard, Stevens, Banton, Mykhailiuk, Walsh, picks
Utah trades: Olynyk, Dunn, Fontecchio

Sign me up!

This is where there will be a hold up.

Danny Ainge "Gives us 3 first rd picks"

Austin Ainge "OK Dad, we'll do"

Brad Stevens SLAPPP "I told you Austin, never pick up the phone again" , "back to your cubicle"