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[MisterRoy]

Why trade Caruso? We need vets on the team. We need to play defense. There is no need to trade him. Hurts our team and makes another better.


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[madvillian]

Why trade Caruso? We need vets on the team. We need to play defense. There is no need to trade him. Hurts our team and makes another better.


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We are tapped out as a 38 win team with him. Trade him before he gets hurt and while his contract still has the most value left on it. We are going nowhere fast. With all the injuries it snuffed out the 5% chance we could move into that 42-45 win zone.

[step]

Unless we're getting overpays on Caruso and Drummond there's no reason to trade for the sake of trading.
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Play hard this season and make changes in the offseason.

Derozan and Drummond will be unrestricted free agents, so why not get something for a guy that will most likely walk in the offseason?

[ScrantonBulls]

I know this will sound completely insane to some of the noted experts here bu, do you ever consider for a second that maybe other teams can't or don't want to do something? I mean man it's so hard to believe that some of you have no concept that it takes 2 teams at least to make a trade and those other teams just don't think the players the Bulls have to offer make them better than the players they'd have to give up?

You're really trying to say that contending teams wouldn't want to trade for Alex Caruso with his dirt cheap contract? Seriously???

[madvillian]

I know this will sound completely insane to some of the noted experts here bu, do you ever consider for a second that maybe other teams can't or don't want to do something? I mean man it's so hard to believe that some of you have no concept that it takes 2 teams at least to make a trade and those other teams just don't think the players the Bulls have to offer make them better than the players they'd have to give up?

You're really trying to say that contending teams wouldn't want to trade for Alex Caruso with his dirt cheap contract? Seriously???

I get the impression the same FO that felt the need to throw in the #7 pick in the Vuc deal is now asking for way too much for AC. I don't think they are very good at judging the trade market and the value of guys.

[chitownsports4ever]

I know this will sound completely insane to some of the noted experts here bu, do you ever consider for a second that maybe other teams can't or don't want to do something? I mean man it's so hard to believe that some of you have no concept that it takes 2 teams at least to make a trade and those other teams just don't think the players the Bulls have to offer make them better than the players they'd have to give up?

The problem is not that our players don't have value its that the teams that could use them the most are only trying to add not trying to subtract and a lot of them also dont have a lot of picks to send back. The Bulls just like those teams are not looking to tank but to make moves to get better and quite frankly looking at the league right now there is not a lot of quality out there but simply a lot of other teams problems that you can be open to taking or not .

https://hoopshype.com/salaries/players/


I went and took a look to see what possibilities we could try and use the DPE we have and the pickens are slim at 10.2 million.

I checked to see what could we do with up to 20 million in salary and again just other peoples problems we would have to take on and with the way this season has gone I just dont see a viable path for trades the way it was last year at the deadline

[MikeDC]

Yes JR is asking for this.

I feel the need to reiterate this: we have zero evidence that ownership is driving this madness.

Whenever i see someone take an absolute stance like this (zero evidence), it’s evident to me that they are arguing a weak position.

There’s absolutely evidence. Of course ownership is driving the strategy and overall goals. That is literally what ownership does. This particular ownership has a long history of establishing the direction and strategy of the team.

Agree that it doesn’t absolve anyone of anything, but c’mon.

[The Force.]

I'm assuming it's a consensus that, following the Wizards, the Bulls are viewed as having the league's second-worst front office, right?

[madvillian]

I'm assuming it's a consensus that, following the Wizards, the Bulls are viewed as having the league's second-worst front office, right?

Pistons probably ahead of us as well.

[erlim]

Yes JR is asking for this.

I feel the need to reiterate this: we have zero evidence that ownership is driving this madness.

Whenever i see someone take an absolute stance like this (zero evidence), it’s evident to me that they are arguing a weak position.

There’s absolutely evidence. Of course ownership is driving the strategy and overall goals. That is literally what ownership does. This particular ownership has a long history of establishing the direction and strategy of the team.

Agree that it doesn’t absolve anyone of anything, but c’mon.

It’s just weird. They could have kept a husk team of old Noah and old Rose as happy mascots to fill the stands, but they cut ties. The mid three is barely more viable than that but we are staunchly dedicated to them.

[Mbrahv0528]

Yes JR is asking for this.

I feel the need to reiterate this: we have zero evidence that ownership is driving this madness.

Whenever i see someone take an absolute stance like this (zero evidence), it’s evident to me that they are arguing a weak position.

There’s absolutely evidence. Of course ownership is driving the strategy and overall goals. That is literally what ownership does. This particular ownership has a long history of establishing the direction and strategy of the team.

Agree that it doesn’t absolve anyone of anything, but c’mon.

Technically it's not the same ownership. Michael runs the team now, not Jerry. Not sure how much that actually matters, but the distinction SHOULD be made.

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[boozapalooza]

I'm assuming it's a consensus that, following the Wizards, the Bulls are viewed as having the league's second-worst front office, right?

Pistons probably ahead of us as well.

I’d put Portland ahead of us too. Wasted Lillard’s prime/career by never pairing him with a legit star (McCollum as a 2nd option was very inadequate). Then decided to give Jerami Grant an insane contract while still trading Lillard. Guess they got a few FRPs 5 years down the road from MIL/Boston to show for a legit superstar PG who wanted to stay in Portland.

[Evil_Headband]

If the Bulls trade Drummond they'll acquire some other center that they like -- either in that trade, another trade or some free agent.

[GoBlue72391]

I'm assuming it's a consensus that, following the Wizards, the Bulls are viewed as having the league's second-worst front office, right?

There's some people right here on this very board who think AKME are an absolute A-grade masterclass of a front office.

[ScrantonBulls]

I'm assuming it's a consensus that, following the Wizards, the Bulls are viewed as having the league's second-worst front office, right?

There's some people right here on this very board who think AKME are an absolute A-grade masterclass of a front office.

Lmao you just beat me to posting this.

If AKME were so bad, would they really get an "A" on the RealGM rating thread? I think not! They're awesome!!

[Dez]

Unless we're getting overpays on Caruso and Drummond there's no reason to trade for the sake of trading.
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Play hard this season and make changes in the offseason.

Derozan and Drummond will be unrestricted free agents, so why not get something for a guy that will most likely walk in the offseason?

Because that "something" will be nothing worthwhile. What are we going to get for DDR and his 28 million dollar expiring contract? Matching the contract to facilitate a trade probably means getting back contracts that have multiple years remaining. There's no point trading for expiring contracts, I'd rather just keep DeMar to keep mentoring Coby, Ayo, Williams, Phillips and Terry for the season.

Unless we get an actual useful asset which we won't for DeMar then it's not worth trading.

If this potential first round pick for Drummond happens to be a real thing then you take it but otherwise see if you can re-sign Drummond on a friendly deal.

[Ccwatercraft]

I believe we’ll move at least one of Caruso or DeMar. Sitting out a fourth consecutive transaction period to service a play-in berth when your leading scorer is highly likely to walk this summer and your best defender will follow him out the door in 2025 - that’s a degree of incompetence that I don’t think ownership can support.

Famous last words I realize … but the buck stops here imo.

I can not believe how unbelievably unlikely it is that they trade demar or caruso. I also can not believe this thread is going to reach over 20 pages by the deadline. In years past, it would be over 100, thank black jesus. But seriously, its pretty sad state of affairs for bulls fans, and this website that it is going to reach only 20 pages or so.

I'll be honest, I would probably post a lot more but after reading 7 pages of reading what sounds like a bunch of old ladies on nextdoor complaining about hobby lobby running low on quilting material I just shake my head & close the browser.

Y'all suck the fun out of the fan experience, fun suckers.

[League Circles]

I believe we’ll move at least one of Caruso or DeMar. Sitting out a fourth consecutive transaction period to service a play-in berth when your leading scorer is highly likely to walk this summer and your best defender will follow him out the door in 2025 - that’s a degree of incompetence that I don’t think ownership can support.

Famous last words I realize … but the buck stops here imo.

Demar may not be traded because any interested parties may very well be trying to send back some bad salary to match (hard not to).

As for Caruso, sure lots of teams would love him but how many are willing to give up like a top 15 pick or actual good player for Caruso? He's a legit good player and he can help us potentially for the next 5 years. That's my price for him - a similar caliber player or prospect on a rookie deal or a projected top 15 pick in this summer's draft. Not interested in future picks or multiple late firsts or 2nds.

[ScrantonBulls]

I believe we’ll move at least one of Caruso or DeMar. Sitting out a fourth consecutive transaction period to service a play-in berth when your leading scorer is highly likely to walk this summer and your best defender will follow him out the door in 2025 - that’s a degree of incompetence that I don’t think ownership can support.

Famous last words I realize … but the buck stops here imo.

I can not believe how unbelievably unlikely it is that they trade demar or caruso. I also can not believe this thread is going to reach over 20 pages by the deadline. In years past, it would be over 100, thank black jesus. But seriously, its pretty sad state of affairs for bulls fans, and this website that it is going to reach only 20 pages or so.

I'll be honest, I would probably post a lot more but after reading 7 pages of reading what sounds like a bunch of old ladies on nextdoor complaining about hobby lobby running low on quilting material I just shake my head & close the browser.

Y'all suck the fun out of the fan experience, fun suckers.

It's not the inept organization that botched the team's present and future that is ruining the fan experience? It's the people calling them out on it? Well played, AK.

[kodo]

I'm assuming it's a consensus that, following the Wizards, the Bulls are viewed as having the league's second-worst front office, right?

Pistons probably ahead of us as well.

Well, the Wizards actually fired their old president and hired a new one, who was from the Clippers. And he in turn fired the coach. So they are doing something very different, and they are now tanking and projected to get a top 3 pick easily.

Chicago we still have AK and Billy, and both got sekrit extensions. The Wizards at least recognized their old FO was going nowhere and cleaned house; while we extended ours.