Bulls Trade Rumors Only

[boozapalooza]

I'm assuming it's a consensus that, following the Wizards, the Bulls are viewed as having the league's second-worst front office, right?

Pistons probably ahead of us as well.

Well, the Wizards actually fired their old president and hired a new one, who was from the Clippers. And he in turn fired the coach. So they are doing something very different, and they are now tanking and projected to get a top 3 pick easily.

Chicago we still have AK and Billy, and both got sekrit extensions. The Wizards at least recognized their old FO was going nowhere and cleaned house; while we extended ours.

Yeah I mean Beal is basically an older version of Zach and they were still able to trade him for 4 FRPs because they struck while the iron was hot. Meanwhile we get nothing and like it. From that angle, are the Wiz really worse than us…

[WindyCityBorn]

Unless we're getting overpays on Caruso and Drummond there's no reason to trade for the sake of trading.
...
Play hard this season and make changes in the offseason.

Derozan and Drummond will be unrestricted free agents, so why not get something for a guy that will most likely walk in the offseason?

Because that "something" will be nothing worthwhile. What are we going to get for DDR and his 28 million dollar expiring contract? Matching the contract to facilitate a trade probably means getting back contracts that have multiple years remaining. There's no point trading for expiring contracts, I'd rather just keep DeMar to keep mentoring Coby, Ayo, Williams, Phillips and Terry for the season.

Unless we get an actual useful asset which we won't for DeMar then it's not worth trading.

If this potential first round pick for Drummond happens to be a real thing then you take it but otherwise see if you can re-sign Drummond on a friendly deal.

We aren’t resigning Drummond to a team friendky deal. He’s probably looking $8 to $10 million this offseason and the Bulls can’t afford that for a guy playing 15 minutes on average. Basically he is gone. He rehabilitated his value a LOT this season.

[WindyCityBorn]

I'm assuming it's a consensus that, following the Wizards, the Bulls are viewed as having the league's second-worst front office, right?

Pistons are definitely worse. You can argue Portland as well. Hawks are up there too after giving up three 1st round picks for a non-star player in Murray and basically putting trash around Trae Young.

[jnrjr79]

Derozan and Drummond will be unrestricted free agents, so why not get something for a guy that will most likely walk in the offseason?

Because that "something" will be nothing worthwhile. What are we going to get for DDR and his 28 million dollar expiring contract? Matching the contract to facilitate a trade probably means getting back contracts that have multiple years remaining. There's no point trading for expiring contracts, I'd rather just keep DeMar to keep mentoring Coby, Ayo, Williams, Phillips and Terry for the season.

Unless we get an actual useful asset which we won't for DeMar then it's not worth trading.

If this potential first round pick for Drummond happens to be a real thing then you take it but otherwise see if you can re-sign Drummond on a friendly deal.

We aren’t resigning Drummond to a team friendky deal. He’s probably looking $8 to $10 million this offseason and the Bulls can’t afford that for a guy playing 15 minutes on average. Basically he is gone. He rehabilitated his value a LOT this season.

I'd prefer if instead of saying the Bulls "can't afford" to pay Drummond this number if the more accurate "the Bulls could afford to do this, but will elect to dodge the luxury tax and refuse to" were how we described the situation.

[GoBlue72391]

Unless I'm missing something, Pistons are good at drafting, they've made a bunch of good picks with the exception of Killian Hayes.

Cade, Duren, Ivey, Stewart, Ausar, etc. were all good picks and are good young building blocks.

[Dan Z]

Pistons probably ahead of us as well.

Well, the Wizards actually fired their old president and hired a new one, who was from the Clippers. And he in turn fired the coach. So they are doing something very different, and they are now tanking and projected to get a top 3 pick easily.

Chicago we still have AK and Billy, and both got sekrit extensions. The Wizards at least recognized their old FO was going nowhere and cleaned house; while we extended ours.

Yeah I mean Beal is basically an older version of Zach and they were still able to trade him for 4 FRPs because they struck while the iron was hot. Meanwhile we get nothing and like it. From that angle, are the Wiz really worse than us…

The Wizards didn't get 4 first round picks. They got:

Chris Paul, Landry Shamet, 2024, 2026, 2028 and 2030 first round swaps plus 2022, 2025,2026, 2027, 2028 and 2030 second round picks. Also, they moved from #8 to #7 in the 2023 draft. They then traded Chris Paul for Ryan Rollins, Jordan Poole, a 2027 2nd round pick and a 2030 first round pick (protected top 20).

[jc23]

either trade now and be happy about it later or stand pat and enjoy the remainder of the season.

[Red8911]

I want 2 trades to happen by tomorrow. 1 Trade Lavine and 2 trade Lonzo Ball. I know this is highly unlikely but imagine replacing these two with players who actually play basketball for a change. Would be nice.

[ImSlower]

Just a shocking disconnect between ownership mandates and/or FO direction (depending on your opinion of why this franchise refuses to budge) and the complete utterly entirety of basketball commentators, pundits and fans is baffling.

The entire **** country sees this ship is dead in the water. Either Reisdorf is content being reviled while he sells 20k seats to corporate UC buyers, or AKME are selfish to the detriment of the org insisting they keep these chumps because they can't get huge returns.

I don't live up there and haven't gone to a game in years but I sure as hell would if I had even remote respect for the product I'd pay a premium for. This team is effed for years but tickets won't suffer so nothing changes.

Go Nuggets.

[Jeffster81]

The Bulls are not doing anything because the FO believe the team can still compete for a playoff spot.
Having fun running in place yet, guys?

[Ccwatercraft]

I can not believe how unbelievably unlikely it is that they trade demar or caruso. I also can not believe this thread is going to reach over 20 pages by the deadline. In years past, it would be over 100, thank black jesus. But seriously, its pretty sad state of affairs for bulls fans, and this website that it is going to reach only 20 pages or so.

I'll be honest, I would probably post a lot more but after reading 7 pages of reading what sounds like a bunch of old ladies on nextdoor complaining about hobby lobby running low on quilting material I just shake my head & close the browser.

Y'all suck the fun out of the fan experience, fun suckers.

It's not the inept organization that botched the team's present and future that is ruining the fan experience? It's the people calling them out on it? Well played, AK.

Great double down.

[FriedRise]

Philly's sliding quick. Give it a few more weeks, and they're gonna be in the play-in range with us. Unless they get Embiid back and he recovers quickly, they're likely gonna be the Bulls way to survive the play-in and make the playoffs.

I don't see AK sending help their way.

[burlydee]

This is NBA hell. Not because the Bulls are in 10th place. But because they built a team that is competing for 7th. This is the most frustrated I've been as a fan in a decade.

[Wingy]

I know I’m super negative and cynical about our direction, but I still hold out this tiny ember of hope that AK will do something right tomorrow.

It seems completely illogical and foolish, and definitely setting myself up for disappointment, but under all the frustrated, insult hurling posts…deep down there’s just a little bit of undying hope that my logical mind expects AK to snuff out tomorrow. That little remaining piece of buried optimism still burns for the moment. Foolish, I know, but can’t help it.

[Wingy]

I'll be honest, I would probably post a lot more but after reading 7 pages of reading what sounds like a bunch of old ladies on nextdoor complaining about hobby lobby running low on quilting material I just shake my head & close the browser.

Y'all suck the fun out of the fan experience, fun suckers.

It's not the inept organization that botched the team's present and future that is ruining the fan experience? It's the people calling them out on it? Well played, AK.

Great double down.

Sorry, a lot of people like ambition. The Bulls have none.

[RSP83]

Expected outcome:
No deal by the deadline
Demar walks in the summer
Caruso finish his contract in Chicago

[Wingy]

Expected outcome:
No deal by the deadline
Demar walks in the summer
Caruso finish his contract in Chicago

Wrong! We resign DeMar to a multi year deal no one else was willing to pay. Outbidding ourselves once again.

[TheSuzerain]

Unless I'm missing something, Pistons are good at drafting, they've made a bunch of good picks with the exception of Killian Hayes.

Cade, Duren, Ivey, Stewart, Ausar, etc. were all good picks and are good young building blocks.

They really aren't though.

Really unbalanced selections too as the fit is awful.

[cubd8]

Expected outcome:
No deal by the deadline
Demar walks in the summer
Caruso finish his contract in Chicago

Wrong! We resign DeMar to a multi year deal no one else was willing to pay. Outbidding ourselves once again.

It's important to keep DeRozan and Vuc on the same timeline. Get Ball back next year, pair with a healthy Zach attack and Coby. Drummond and Caruso are those winning glue players, mix in the untapped potential of Patrick Williams with a sprinkle of Ayo and a few of the youngster...gotta like the future

[GoBlue72391]

Unless I'm missing something, Pistons are good at drafting, they've made a bunch of good picks with the exception of Killian Hayes.

Cade, Duren, Ivey, Stewart, Ausar, etc. were all good picks and are good young building blocks.

They really aren't though.

Really unbalanced selections too as the fit is awful.

BPA is never a bad strategy, especially picking that high. Those are all good picks in isolation. Those are all good young promising players, poor fit or not. Any one of them would be our most promising young player besides Coby.