76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2

[FireMorey]

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They'll likely get the extension done though.

[eyeatoma]

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They'll likely get the extension done though.

Ofcourse they will. The Clippers aren't stupid to let this team break up.

[Murray_17]

They will become movable once you fill your team with salaries. They have a variety of options at their disposal now.

They can take on players other teams want to get rid of with picks attached.

They can sign players and trade them later once they become eligible.

They can get involved in multi team trades where players and assets are rerouted.

They have options. And if Morey goes into the summer and it looks like he had no plan and wasn't able to do anything with the money, again, it's not like they passed on some amazing trade and lost out on it. All it would do is reinforce that the guy sucks, which I've been saying for a few years now.

So, the only way we can get players now is FA, which means we're gonna overpay some guys.

Then we can fix the mistake by moving the recent guys we signed, which means we made moves for the next deadline.... that?

[Mik317]

lord forgive me time to go back to old me


WHAT THE **** MAYNE

what is the vision here? Cap space? For whom. For hwhat. Bu-but we didn't have much to trade doe....and yet every **** offseason other contenders get helpful players for scraps?

I just don't understand anything done today and thats annoying as ****.

5 open roster spots now too...I am sure the corpses of Danny Green, Kyle Lowry and Robin Lopez will save the day.

****

[Murray_17]

This guy sucks. His videos get recommended to me on YouTube all the time. What a loser.

Yeah, his videos get spammed in my fed too. And even with that his engagement is super low.

I don't get the appeal

[XtremeDunkz]

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They'll likely get the extension done though.

and even if they don't.... we really gonna max out a 34 year old Paul George? Might as well have just gave Harden the max then and avoided all of this.

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[FireMorey]

They will become movable once you fill your team with salaries. They have a variety of options at their disposal now.

They can take on players other teams want to get rid of with picks attached.

They can sign players and trade them later once they become eligible.

They can get involved in multi team trades where players and assets are rerouted.

They have options. And if Morey goes into the summer and it looks like he had no plan and wasn't able to do anything with the money, again, it's not like they passed on some amazing trade and lost out on it. All it would do is reinforce that the guy sucks, which I've been saying for a few years now.

So, the only way we can get players now is FA, which means we're gonna overpay some guys.

Then we can fix the mistake by moving the recent guys we signed, which means we made moves for the next deadline.... that?

It's not a perfect scenario. It's still better than the realistic alternative. The alternative was trading for Olynyk or Derozan, with fewer first rounders going forward.

Derozan and Olynyk are not making you a contender. You're arguing that this strategy is flawed, but I'm not arguing it isn't. I'm telling you I don't see an alternative that had the Sixers better positioned to win a title than this. If you have one, by all means share it.

[Slacktard]

PG wanted to be in LA... Now the team is playing great, they got a new arena opening next year... But he gonna give that all up for Philly? lol

[Iverson Armband]

The luxury tax is why Springer is gone. **** Josh Harris.

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Springer can’t play is why he is gone.

He locked down Steph and Luka.

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See Thybulle, Matisse.

[NYSixersFan]

Fraudster is leaking to the media that they will go after Paul George. Lol. Keep selling that false hope. Now you see why the media kisses his a$$. Feeds them constant BS.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

OK...

-I'd rather have Dinwiddie than Kyle Lowry

-Trading Springer to the Celtics was a dumb move, but he had no future with us here. His shot hasn't developed and neither have his handles. Still, a team like Boston will know how to use him and it'll pay off for them on their way to the Finals. This does open the door for Smith and Council the rest of the season. Not sure if Nurse will use them, but I felt like they are both better prospects than Jaden Springer.

-We traded for a 31-year-old Buddy Hield, let's hope he doesn't just walk after the season is over, but let's also hope we don't sign him for some outrageous amount of money because he is not worth that. If he sucks for us, then we can just let him walk and we've lost essentially nothing because we recouped our 2nds by trading players that weren't really part of the plan moving forward. Now that we've got our seconds back, I look at Hield as a tryout for us for the future. We get to see now if he can fit later and that's never a bad thing. Again, we weren't playing Springer, Morris and Korkmaz are bums, so is House, and Pat Bev, despite being a fun player was never in our long term plans. Welcome Cameron Payne! He is 29 and probably not a long-term fit here either, but he can score the basketball and that's what we need right now. Scorers that you can put out there with Maxey that defenses have to pay attention to. The same goes for acquiring Hield. Payne has proven himself in this league over the years. He had a bit of a resurrection with Phoenix and found a way to stay in the league. Scoring the basketball has never been an issue for him so let's at least see what he can do.

I didn't mind any of the moves up until we traded Jaden Springer to Boston. I thought we could have used him elsewhere in a trade by basically showcasing him this year, but it would have come at a cost (losses). The moves made by Morey are a little maddening, but I need time to digest them. None of these moves were "high risk" and none of them will cost us our future. He has made some bad moves (Tucker/House) but he's always corrected them. Springer could come back to haunt us, but it's unlikely he's anythign more than what he was here for us in Boston. If Hield doesn't give us something during his tenure here, we can always let him walk. Again...He basically costed us Marcus Morris.

I will say that nothing we did today solved our biggest issue which is rebounding. We're still looking at Paul Reed and Mo Fkin Bamba for the rest of the season. Buddy Hield will take some heat of Maxey and we should at least be a little bit more competitive in games without Embiid, but I don't expect us to suddenly start winning. We're in trouble as far as the rest of the season goes. We really needed to add a player that would address our rebounding issues, but I imagine the asking price for guys like Drummond was too high.

I do think these moves were bound to happen with or without Joel Embiid getting hurt. Buddy Hield has been talked about for a while now and he's finally a Sixer. I'm not the biggest fan, but he can shoot the rock. If we can get Dinwiddie on a buyout, things will look at least salvageable for the remainder of the season. Anyone that expected Morey to instantly fix the roster today was totally ignorant to the fact that this team is tied to Maxey and Embiid for the foreseeable future. Any "big" move we make will be made in the offseason with the cap space we have. We're also still in a position to make a big trade if we want to so not all is lost.

I don't love the moves Morey made today, but I don't hate them either. It's sad to see Springer go, but we knew failure was imminent when the season started and he still had no jumpshot or handles to speak of. He's also been outplayed by the likes of Ricky Council AND Terquavion Smith. That doesn't bode well for you when you're a former first rounder with two years experience in the league and you're getting passed up by two UDFA's.

[eyeatoma]

They will become movable once you fill your team with salaries. They have a variety of options at their disposal now.

They can take on players other teams want to get rid of with picks attached.

They can sign players and trade them later once they become eligible.

They can get involved in multi team trades where players and assets are rerouted.

They have options. And if Morey goes into the summer and it looks like he had no plan and wasn't able to do anything with the money, again, it's not like they passed on some amazing trade and lost out on it. All it would do is reinforce that the guy sucks, which I've been saying for a few years now.

So, the only way we can get players now is FA, which means we're gonna overpay some guys.

Then we can fix the mistake by moving the recent guys we signed, which means we made moves for the next deadline.... that?

It's not a perfect scenario. It's still better than the realistic alternative. The alternative was trading for Olynyk or Derozan, with fewer first rounders going forward.

Derozan and Olynyk are not making you a contender. You're arguing that this strategy is flawed, but I'm not arguing it isn't. I'm telling you I don't see an alternative that had the Sixers better positioned to win a title than this. If you have one, by all means share it.

Could have used the capspace on Murray, Grant, Brogdon, Drummond, Caruso, Miles Bridges, Lauri.

Tons of players who could have been had, but we have this stupid pipe dream of an offseason, where you have a less likely chance of being able to retool.

Paul George might have a year or 2 left in his window. Giving him a 5 year max is assinine. Just as assinine as Harden. His defensive potential will be gone by them. Tatum will run circles around him.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

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They'll likely get the extension done though.

and even if they don't.... we really gonna max out a 34 year old Paul George? Might as well have just gave Harden the max then and avoided all of this.

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FWIW Paul George isn't the playoff choker that James Harden is. However, playoff availability has also been an issue for George where it hasn't for Harden. I honestly don't want PG at this point in his career. Pretty sure LA will find a way to keep him.

[eyeatoma]

Joel not happy...

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[Mik317]

Paul George has been called Pandemic P for his playoff failures

[FireMorey]

So, the only way we can get players now is FA, which means we're gonna overpay some guys.

Then we can fix the mistake by moving the recent guys we signed, which means we made moves for the next deadline.... that?

It's not a perfect scenario. It's still better than the realistic alternative. The alternative was trading for Olynyk or Derozan, with fewer first rounders going forward.

Derozan and Olynyk are not making you a contender. You're arguing that this strategy is flawed, but I'm not arguing it isn't. I'm telling you I don't see an alternative that had the Sixers better positioned to win a title than this. If you have one, by all means share it.

Could have used the capspace on Murray, Grant, Brogdon, Drummond, Caruso, Miles Bridges, Lauri.

Tons of players who could have been had, but we have this stupid pipe dream of an offseason, where you have a less likely chance of being able to retool.

Paul George might have a year or 2 left in his window. Giving him a 5 year max is assinine. Just as assinine as Harden. His defensive potential will be gone by them. Tatum will run circles around him.

You're not winning anything with those players and you MAYBE could've got just one of those players and since none of those guys were traded it's apparent teams were driving a hard bargain so you would've likely had to surrender every last trade asset you had to get a guy like Murray or Lauri. Not guys who will put you over the top, and if some star down the road becomes available you have nothing to trade. Would have been a total waste.

[eyeatoma]

It's not a perfect scenario. It's still better than the realistic alternative. The alternative was trading for Olynyk or Derozan, with fewer first rounders going forward.

Derozan and Olynyk are not making you a contender. You're arguing that this strategy is flawed, but I'm not arguing it isn't. I'm telling you I don't see an alternative that had the Sixers better positioned to win a title than this. If you have one, by all means share it.

Could have used the capspace on Murray, Grant, Brogdon, Drummond, Caruso, Miles Bridges, Lauri.

Tons of players who could have been had, but we have this stupid pipe dream of an offseason, where you have a less likely chance of being able to retool.

Paul George might have a year or 2 left in his window. Giving him a 5 year max is assinine. Just as assinine as Harden. His defensive potential will be gone by them. Tatum will run circles around him.

You're not winning anything with those players and you MAYBE could've got just one of those players and since none of those guys were traded it's apparent teams were driving a hard bargain so you would've likely had to surrender every last trade asset you had to get a guy like Murray or Lauri. Not guys who will put you over the top, and if some star down the road becomes available you have nothing to trade. Would have been a total waste.

And if they don't become available, then what? That is most likely btw. Then we are adding substandard players to the team.

[the_process]

The Sixers only currently have 12 players. Below the minimum. So something else is coming.

Dumping Springer made it so they can take Drummond into the House TPE and still be under the tax I'm pretty sure.

[Jailblazers7]

To be fair, I don’t think there was a clear move to make at the deadline. Hield will be a nice fit but he’s not a needle mover. Ultimately, I’m ok with keeping our powder dry & our assets in tact. The Springer move was a stupid one and another example of Morey making pretty illogical moves at the margin because of coach preferences or cap concerns.

We aren’t getting a 3rd star in FA tho, that’s delusion. Far more likely that we use it to sign a variety of mid/high tier role players to $8M-$15M deals.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

The Sixers only currently have 12 players. Below the minimum. So something else is coming.

A buyout? Or will we permanently add Council and Smith to the roster? I'm not completely sure how it works with the 2-way players.